Flight Attendant Bullies/Kicks Woman Off Plane Because She Can (VIDEO)

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    Oct 16, 2015 5:03 AM GMT
    Why American Airlines suck


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    Oct 16, 2015 7:22 AM GMT
    I can't watch Young Turk vids.

    Can someone break it down in 30 words or less please?
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    Oct 16, 2015 1:00 PM GMT
    Looks pretty bad -- but what really went on before the camera started rolling? Abuse does happen, but there may have been an issue or an occurrence that was neither captured on the video, nor admitted by the passenger who was removed, and of which the other passengers were unaware.

    Contrary to what the gentleman young Turk argues, you can't judge right and wrong in these situations by spontaneous response from the crowd.

    Still, I'm inclined to believe the woman's story and that, in this instance, American Airlines did suck.
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    Oct 16, 2015 1:46 PM GMT
    I've observed that, post-911, some flight crews have become utterly rude and mean-spirited. This is not a condemnation of the industry as a whole, as there are many flight attendants who are also quite responsive and sensitive to the needs of their passengers. Some of these folks do use their authority unnecessarily and improperly. I was on a flight from Seattle no more than 2 weeks ago, and the father of a 5-yr old child who needed to use the bathroom while the plane was waiting on the tarmac was chastised by a flight attendant for not controlling his child.
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    Oct 16, 2015 4:09 PM GMT
    There is alwaways 2 sides of a story ...
    Passengers have to learn , that if they want their flight to leave on time , they have to seat down in their assigned seat , they can always continue their conversation with their fellow passengers one the flight is in cruising set up .
    About that father and child , when the plane is queuing on the tarmac , rulea are no one can be standing up for safety reasons .
    Cabin crew also has to take abuse for passengers who are sometimes purely offensive .
    75% of the parents doesn't control their children during flights , i rather be sitting next to a passenger and his dog , than a passenger and his child , it might seem harsh , but it is the truth ....icon_smile.gif
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    Oct 16, 2015 4:40 PM GMT
    dumbbell_junkie saidContrary to what the gentleman young Turk argues, you can't judge right and wrong in these situations by spontaneous response from the crowd.

    Exactly why I can't watch Young Turk videos - more precisely, I find their commentators to be sanctimonious hypocrites.

    So since I can't stand watching their vids, what exactly happened?
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    Oct 16, 2015 5:44 PM GMT
    eagermuscle said
    dumbbell_junkie saidContrary to what the gentleman young Turk argues, you can't judge right and wrong in these situations by spontaneous response from the crowd.

    Exactly why I can't watch Young Turk videos - more precisely, I find their commentators to be sanctimonious hypocrites.

    So since I can't stand watching their vids, what exactly happened?


    She was standing in the aisle, waiting to get to her seat, she didn't move fast enough.

    She was removed from the plane.

    While we don't know exactly what happened earlier, you can hear the other passenger's comments afterward. None favorable to the airline. They were there. The reactions seemed genuine.
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    Oct 16, 2015 6:37 PM GMT
    I believe this may very well have been an abuse of authority. But sometimes there are things going on that the crew knows about but the passengers cannot. It's rare, but it does happen.

    Twenty years ago, I had to pull a crying woman off -- turned out her ex-husband's wife, also on the plane, had a restraining order against the crying woman.

    I didn't look like much of a hero standing there, asking this poor woman to gather her belongings and get off, and escorting her to the door.

    But I couldn't reveal the facts to the other passengers as a justification for my actions, and the passenger protected by the restraining order naturally felt threatened and didn’t want anyone to know her business.

    It may seem unfair, but things do go on in aviation that people don't know, and that's why crowd reaction is not necessarily a fair basis to assess crew actions.

    The business of chatting in the aisle and not sitting down fast enough may not have actually had anything to do with it.
  • davfit

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    Oct 16, 2015 9:45 PM GMT
    everyone knows flight Attendants can be Cunts ..doesn't matter the Air line..
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    Oct 17, 2015 3:37 AM GMT
    It's kind of a shitty job and the flying public must be insufferable many times. Not that the airlines didn't help get us there.

    I'm sure some attendants cross the line though. There was the guy that grabbed a beer and slid down the emergency chute to quit a few years back:

    http://www.cnn.com/2010/TRAVEL/08/10/new.york.escape.chute.opened/

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    Oct 17, 2015 1:53 PM GMT
    i know the crew that worked this flight. all i can say now is there is way more to this story that cannot be disclosed at this time. there were a few 'incidents' related to her and her buddies in the gate area prior to boarding. again, there is a lot missing from the media story. the other side will get out eventually.

    and why is a 'mother of two young children' on vacation with her gal pals anyway?
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    Oct 18, 2015 4:51 PM GMT
    HEBREWMAN saidi know the crew that worked this flight. all i can say now is there is way more to this story that cannot be disclosed at this time. there were a few 'incidents' related to her and her buddies in the gate area prior to boarding. again, there is a lot missing from the media story. the other side will get out eventually.

    and why is a 'mother of two young children' on vacation with her gal pals anyway?


    I am glad you clarified that story , because we always get blamed ....aarrgghhhh....
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    Oct 18, 2015 4:54 PM GMT
    davfit saideveryone knows flight Attendants can be Cunts ..doesn't matter the Air line..


    Same could be said about passengers !!!!!!!!!!!
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    Oct 18, 2015 7:14 PM GMT
    HEBREWMAN saidi know the crew that worked this flight. all i can say now is there is way more to this story that cannot be disclosed at this time. there were a few 'incidents' related to her and her buddies in the gate area prior to boarding. again, there is a lot missing from the media story. the other side will get out eventually.

    and why is a 'mother of two young children' on vacation with her gal pals anyway?


    The first I see as important background info. The judgement of a woman going on vacation is nobody's business. If I had two young children running around I too would need a vacation.....often!
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    Oct 18, 2015 8:23 PM GMT
    I am first thank ful this video was closed caption. I have seen numerous video of passengers being asked to leave in coach section. I have yet to see this occur in first class. It is apparent if many passenger were upset then, the atteendant was wrong.

    Does anybody know if American Airline try to make it right with the lady for the way she wrongly treated?
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    Oct 18, 2015 9:54 PM GMT
    I tried to avoid American Airlines when I can it is becoming one of the worst airlines to travel. Now with all these mergers the 'consumer' unfortunately has less choice and of course ticket prices will go up.

    The only way American will learn is in their pocket book, if their flights go empty this is the only way the consumer can 'message' will be heard that they need to treat the consumer differently. I am sure there is more to this story, but I cite with the woman, I do hear her crying and in no way it seems she is being unreasonable or belligerent .

    Again, I think this is an overzealous flight attendant and after 9/11 the pendulum of treating the passenger as if anyone is a potential criminal has skyrocketed.

    This is why when I have had to fly American I cringe, because I know that I am at their mercy. I just want to get to my destination without a flight attendant advising or saying something in appropriate and having to keep my mouth shut for being feared of being bumped off the flight.
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    Oct 19, 2015 12:52 AM GMT
    dumbbell_junkie said... sometimes there are things going on that the crew knows about but the passengers cannot.

    It may seem unfair, but things do go on in aviation that people don't know, and that's why crowd reaction is not necessarily a fair basis to assess crew actions.

    The business of chatting in the aisle and not sitting down fast enough may not have actually had anything to do with it.