Fossils Reveal That Modern Humans Were Living In China 20,000 Years Before We Thought They Left Africa

  • metta

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    Oct 16, 2015 6:05 AM GMT
    Fossils Reveal That Modern Humans Were Living In China 20,000 Years Before We Thought They Left Africa


    http://www.iflscience.com/plants-and-animals/humans-lived-china-long-europe-study
  • roadbikeRob

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    Oct 16, 2015 11:41 AM GMT
    That discovery could eventually disprove Africa as the birthplace of human life.
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    Oct 16, 2015 2:42 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidThat discovery could eventually disprove Africa as the birthplace of human life.


    Not necessarily. All the IFL article is saying (just like the abstract on Nature) is modern humans appear to have moved from Africa into Asia first before entering Europe. The authors' hypothesis is that there was competition from H. neanderthalensis in Europe and only when that population started to decline could H. sapiens enter and compete on that continent.
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    Oct 16, 2015 3:32 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidThat discovery could eventually disprove Africa as the birthplace of human life.


    Did you read the second sentence in the very first paragraph of the article? Here, I'll copy and paste it:

    That means the first humans out of Africa ventured into China – and not Europe.


    But thank you, CDNinCH, for your more elaborate reply. Detailed responses are the most effectual tool against ignorance (and ironically seemingly the most ineffectual tool against the willfully ignorant)!
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    Oct 16, 2015 5:28 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidThat discovery could eventually disprove Africa as the birthplace of human life.


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    Oct 16, 2015 6:39 PM GMT
    http://www.iflscience.com/plants-and-animals/28-million-year-old-jawbone-oldest-homo-fossil-ever-discovered
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    Oct 16, 2015 6:58 PM GMT
    Fine_Young_Cannibal saidhttp://www.iflscience.com/plants-and-animals/28-million-year-old-jawbone-oldest-homo-fossil-ever-discovered
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    Oct 16, 2015 7:29 PM GMT
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    Oh, you guys didn't know about this? That would be the Ethiopian Jews. Ya know, soon after inventing the wheel, we ran right out for Chinese.
  • conservativej...

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    Oct 16, 2015 8:44 PM GMT
    It has always been supposition to believe man originated solely in Africa.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Oct 16, 2015 9:45 PM GMT
    conservativejock saidIt has always been supposition to believe man originated solely in Africa.
    That is at the present time. Who knows what scientists will discover in the ground in areas other than Africa. Anything is possible. All we know is that where humans really originated could still be largely unknown. We shall see what future discoveries in other parts of the world reveal.
  • Wendigo9

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    Oct 17, 2015 2:57 AM GMT
    Asia has been claiming the start of many things (first wheel, flying machine, inventing sports), but they are ahead in today's technology, so I'm 50/50 on this : /
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    Oct 17, 2015 3:23 AM GMT
    Wendigo9 saidAsia has been claiming the start of many things (first wheel, flying machine, inventing sports), but they are ahead in today's technology, so I'm 50/50 on this : /


    until you can produce a successful live action science fiction movie, you are not in the advanced nations.

    As far as the origin of humanity, I want it to be the hobbits.
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    Oct 17, 2015 3:49 PM GMT
    Wendigo9 saidAsia has been claiming the start of many things (first wheel, flying machine, inventing sports), but they are ahead in today's technology, so I'm 50/50 on this : /


    The article does not claim modern humans derived from Asia but maintains our roots in Africa. The only difference of history noted by the new evidence if I read that article correctly is that instead of traveling initially to Europe, our ancestors first went from Africa to Asia which makes sense in two regards: one mentioned by the article, that all the best hotels in Europe had already been pre-booked by the Neanderthal, but also though not mentioned, it might make sense that early wanderers would have kept to similar warmer climates rather than venturing further north into Europe where they might not have had the skills to survive colder winters.

    Also, who doesn't love Chinese food?
  • BigBearBB02

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    Oct 19, 2015 1:55 AM GMT
    Hay Guys, you have to remember there have been several migrations out of Africa over hundred of thousands of years starting from around a million or more years. It's a bit complicated, because some older groups doubled back and mixed with newer groups just leaving Africa and become new groups. Plus, they recently discover new genus of Homo going back around 2 to 3 million years in Africa. As far as I know, Africa is still the birth place of Humans.
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    Oct 21, 2015 9:55 PM GMT
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    roadbikeRob saidThat discovery could eventually disprove Africa as the birthplace of human life.


    Not necessarily. All the IFL article is saying (just like the abstract on Nature) is modern humans appear to have moved from Africa into Asia first before entering Europe. The authors' hypothesis is that there was competition from H. neanderthalensis in Europe and only when that population started to decline could H. sapiens enter and compete on that continent.


    Does this theory then follow a trail trend of evidence going from Africa to Asia? There's gotta be a line drawn between point A and point B.

    Apparition saiduntil you can produce a successful live action science fiction movie, you are not in the advanced nations.


    Unless you were joking (and one can't tell these days on RJ) then this is a very ridiculous criteria for slapping an "advanced" mark on a country/region.