The end of McDonalds? New dine-in service?

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    Oct 16, 2015 6:22 PM GMT
    This could be possible, it does appear that the CEO wants to compete with others but not in the same category. McD's processes have been in place for 40 years, cookery and machinery was made specifically, one for scrambled eggs and one for poached eggs. In order to comply with this CEO's plan, franchisees must (spend money) and change their processes. This seems to be where the most complaints are coming from. The only items I will eat at any McD is fries and breakfast items, they have pretty good coffee.

    Even the "standard neighborhood pizzeria" process is being slowly changed due to new, inventive ways of making pizza such as Pieology Pizzeria




    McDonald's franchisees say the brand is in a 'deep depression' and 'facing its final days'
    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/mcdonalds-franchisees-brand-deep-depression-160253843.html

    "We are in the throes of a deep depression, and nothing is changing," one franchisee wrote in response to the survey by Nomura analyst Mark Kalinowski. "Probably 30% of operators are insolvent."

    Another wrote, "The CEO is sowing the seeds of our demise. We are a quick-serve fast-food restaurant, not a fast casual like Five Guys or Chipotle. The system may be facing its final days."

    More than a dozen franchisees expressed frustration with McDonald's management, saying CEO Steve Easterbrook's turnaround plan — which includes initiatives like all-day breakfast and a shift to digital ordering kiosks — is a distraction from McDonald's core issues, like food quality and customer service.

    "The lack of consistent leadership from Oak Brook is frightening, we continue to jump from one failed initiative to another," one franchisee wrote.

    A second wrote, "I have been in this business since the early 1970s but have not seen us this leaderless in all my time."

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    Oct 16, 2015 7:38 PM GMT
    Say "Leaderless" five times real fast!
  • KissTheSky

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    Oct 17, 2015 4:36 PM GMT
    Probably the company most responsible for making America fat and sick.
    I hope they go out of business tomorrow -- we'd all be much better off.
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    Oct 17, 2015 5:09 PM GMT
    It's not going anywhere. They have way too many loyal consumers, in the States and internationally. Consumers will learn to adjust to the changes.
  • LJay

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    Oct 17, 2015 6:01 PM GMT
    A quarter pounder with cheese and a fried egg on an English muffin with extra tomato and lots of lettuce, please.
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    Oct 17, 2015 6:10 PM GMT
    I get making breakfast available all day, but the grey burger... ?

    http://www.grubstreet.com/2015/10/mcdonalds-grey-burger.html

    EDIT: And this was linked to from that page for me:

    http://www.grubstreet.com/2014/07/mcdonalds_kfc_and_pizza_hut_se.html

    Ok, I'm ready for them to die too icon_smile.gif
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    Oct 17, 2015 6:18 PM GMT
    Sales are down or they wouldn't be having these conversations. I suspect there will always be some (in places like highway lay-bys where people want to grab and go) but it would not surprise or upset me if the "one in every town" model went away. Their traditional competitors are doing the same thing... our Wendy's locations are slowly being upgraded to look more like Shake Shack. Can't tell you if the food's any different.

    I haven't been in McD's in a year, and as others said, the only thing I eat there is the McMuffin. Even the more "upscale" burger places give me a tummy ache.
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    Oct 17, 2015 7:29 PM GMT
    A slowly recovering economy and realizing that cooking at home can be a way to save money has hurt McDonald's. The younger generation is finally curbing their take-out tendencies.
  • monstapex

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    Oct 17, 2015 8:09 PM GMT
    KissTheSky saidProbably the company most responsible for making America fat and sick.
    I hope they go out of business tomorrow -- we'd all be much better off.


    If McDonald's is making people fat and sick , why do you see so many elderly people eating there?
    And McDonald's is the place a lot people get their first work experience. You who make people sick? Vegetarians And Vegans!!!
  • bro4bro

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    Oct 18, 2015 12:04 AM GMT
    The end of McDonald's? I doubt it.

    There's a McDonalds on the corner right by my office. Every single day there's a traffic jam of cars entering and exiting that shithole at lunchtime and after work. I've learned to always drive in the left lane when I'm near that corner so I don't get caught in it. And this is in an LA beach community that happens to be one of the most health-conscious and food-trendiest places on earth!

    I don't see how it survives - who the fuck eats there? - but it thrives.
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    Oct 18, 2015 4:39 AM GMT
    How could they reinvent themselves?

    See my list below!!!
    We now feature:
    Gluten free waffles and Pancakes?
    Free range and organic eggs?
    Bison Burgers?
    Holistic and Organic infused vegetables?
    No GMO?? LOL hahah
    No High fructose corn syrup
    No Artificial colors, sweeteners and harmful additives?
    All fresh, nothing deep fried in Saturated fat or bad fats?
    The list goes on, they are deep in fake and crap. Only the stupid, retards and uneducated eat there. If you do eat there all I have to say is WHY?

    CHOICE: Daily!!
    We have some amazing options now days and I love the free range game and fresh food restaurants......

    Happy Fall Micky D
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    Oct 18, 2015 4:44 AM GMT
    "Ba-da-ba-ba-baaaaaaaaaaaaa..." icon_lol.gif
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    Oct 18, 2015 11:19 AM GMT
    It seems to happen to most mega-corporations eventually. The cycle: Unremarkable start, near failure, steady rise, stellar performance, arrogance, buyouts, trip, recovery, trip, fall, dead. In 25 years' time we'll probably be watching Apple in its final death throes and wondering how this tech behemoth came to be laid so low.
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    Oct 18, 2015 1:23 PM GMT
    The only thing I like at McDonald's is their Ice-Cream, other than that; their burgers are too small, their fries taste like cardboard and their 'Kiddies Happy Meals' don't make kids happy - they make 'em fat. Down with McDonalds, a franchise that shouldn't have happened.
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    Oct 18, 2015 1:41 PM GMT
    its just arrogance, mcd just thought we knows what better. Then 50 other burger places sprung up 30 burger . 5 guys, and others. I have been to mcd in at least 10 years
  • SargeKO

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    Oct 18, 2015 2:01 PM GMT
    Ex_Mil8 saidIt seems to happen to most mega-corporations eventually. The cycle: Unremarkable start, near failure, steady rise, stellar performance, arrogance, buyouts, trip, recovery, trip, fall, dead. In 25 years' time we'll probably be watching Apple in its final death throes and wondering how this tech behemoth came to be laid so low.


    This cycle sounds like the USA.
  • interestingch...

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    Oct 18, 2015 2:38 PM GMT
    I never eat fast food, I prepare my own food most of the time and if I am out then I will go to 'Pret a Manger' which is a nation wide chain, organic pre packed made freshly every day, you are what you eat, I feel very well and healthy and if I eat crap food then I really feel it afterwards. In Europe we have 1% contamination of GM foods because the governments banned it thank god, also we don't use corn syrup in anything, that is only used in North America and probably partly responsible for obesity in the general population. I eat 3 or 4 almonds every day to keep cancer at bay because apparently an enzyme in them stop it from developing, and I take regular massages with peanut oil to stop arthritis from developing. All of my pots and pans which were made from aluminium have been thrown out and now use stainless steel and cast iron because links have been made that Aluminium causes dementia and alzheimers, I also try not to buy anything that has been stored in it either, for example canned drinks. If I get an injury or have to cleanse an area of my body, for example lungs, intestines or liver then I place a castor oil heat pack over the area for a couple of hours in the evening while I am reading or watching a movie, it works wonders and always sleep amazing afterward too, I will do this for maybe 3 times a week and three weeks out of a month, leave a week off so as not to overuse it. I also cook in olive oil or coconut oil and have really great skin because of it. It gets rid of cysts very fast without the need for surgery even internal ones and also dissolves scar tissue all by using a heat pack on the outside of your body, Awesome stuff, just use organic or cold pressed castor oil. It can rebalance your nervous system and cleanse your lymphatic system too just by placing it over your liver. Try it for a few months and see, what have you got to loose. I swear by it. Make sure it doesn't come into contact with clothes or bedding etc because it stains.
    Stay away from fast food and nurture yourself, you would be amazed at the difference at changing diet does. Don't eat crap or you will feel like it.
    The body can regenerate itself and its never too late too make changes.
  • FRE0

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    Oct 18, 2015 7:20 PM GMT
    I've been to McDonald's perhaps a total of six times and it's been more than 12 years. It is very difficult to find anything wholesome on their menu. When traveling I generally have lunch at a Subway shop. They also have a few junk items on their menus, but they also have wholesome items.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Oct 18, 2015 8:24 PM GMT
    I avoid McDonalds, Wendy's, and KFC. All they serve is greasy, salt laden, toxic crap. The sooner these purveyors of poison are bankrupt and put out of business the better and it cannot happen soon enough.
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    Oct 18, 2015 10:14 PM GMT
    Joan Kroc, widow of McDonalds' Ray Kroc lived near my grandparents years ago. I talked with her at a party one night and asked her at one point if she ever actually ate anything at her restaurants. Her answer: "Oh my Heavens, no! But I do think that children enjoy our food".

    Last time I ate there (while traveling) I found out the food tasted just as badly as I remembered it the last time I ate there in the 70's.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Oct 18, 2015 11:23 PM GMT
    Their hamburgers are tiny pieces of cardboard and the bun is mushy, the French fries are deadly with all that fat and grease, their coffee is the absolute worst it almost resembles liquified asphalt, the salads are mostly old, moldy crap, and all the sodas are loaded with high fructose corn syrup. Since its properties are worldwide, McDonalds could easily qualify as the worlds largest hazardous waste site.
  • Joeyphx444

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    Oct 19, 2015 12:22 AM GMT
    Oh please you gusy act like Mcdonalds is the worst place yet you can see all their nutrition on their site and other places. Compare this to other fast food and even restaurants where you are totally unaware of ingredients and calories, etc. The mom/pop restaurants probably serve just as greasy and fried up crap that mcds does but we think it's better cuz it's homemade and not from a machine. icon_rolleyes.gif

    You either hate or love it and learn to live with it. It's not going anywhere. I usually just order a coffee-which is CHEAP and way better than any other place besides sbucks. I don't see 5 guys popular everywhere and burger king, if you ask me, is in more trouble than they are
  • tj85016

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    Oct 19, 2015 3:35 AM GMT
    McDonalds is probably no worse than the garbage made by Nestle and ConAgra

    just look up all the brands Nestle, Unilever and ConAgra own, you may be surprised - - all garbage
  • 6packabs

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    Oct 19, 2015 8:54 AM GMT
    I'm so excited to see such hearty rejection of this processed, toxic crap people pass off as food.

    I don't like hardly anything from the 1970s. That said, I was amazed to watch some vintage male on male porn and discovered it was the hottest stuff I have ever seen. The physics of those men were absolutely magnificent in their lean muscle mass and masculinity, which couldn't hardly be found today, I believe, by the factor of GMO crops and all the rest of the crap fed to America that prior generations didn't eat. Yeah, something unique in those models. They were physically superior to porn stars of our time 40-50 years later, by virtue of their diet that was much more pure back then.
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    Oct 19, 2015 3:52 PM GMT
    tj85016 saidMcDonalds is probably no worse than the garbage made by Nestle and ConAgra

    just look up all the brands Nestle, Unilever and ConAgra own, you may be surprised - - all garbage


    Yes, plus Nestle is trying to get the right to take water out of a national park (meaning owned by the public) and sell it back to us after putting it in a stupid plastic bottle.

    We're trying really hard to only buy ingredients and stay out of the prepared aisles, for this very reason. Antifreeze in salad dressing, corn syrup in catsup. Nothing is just food anymore.