Poll: 60% Of Americans Don’t Trust The Mainstream Media

  • metta

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    Oct 19, 2015 5:37 AM GMT
    Poll: 60% Of Americans Don’t Trust The Mainstream Media






    http://www.mintpressnews.com/poll-60-of-americans-dont-trust-the-mainstream-media/210337/
  • 6packabs

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    Oct 19, 2015 8:59 AM GMT
    What a delicious trend. May it increase dramatically.

    May the USSR, Soviet-style, US, moneychanger owned media die as people support and listen to their one trusted networks and reject mass propaganda
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    Oct 19, 2015 4:49 PM GMT
    The commentator's statement re: a lack of intellectual curiosity is correct, but it needs to go further, and be taken up by the offending media themselves. The strictures of political rectitude - cf. "correctness" - being imposed in classrooms at all levels also plays a role in stifling full and honest inquiry.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Oct 19, 2015 11:15 PM GMT
    Americans growing distrust of the mainstream could possibly spell trouble for the two Wall Street darlings running for President, Jeb Bush and Hillary Clinton.
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    Oct 20, 2015 4:47 AM GMT
    I sure don't.
  • Svnw688

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    Oct 20, 2015 5:00 AM GMT
    MGINSD saidThe commentator's statement re: a lack of intellectual curiosity is correct, but it needs to go further, and be taken up by the offending media themselves. The strictures of political rectitude - cf. "correctness" - being imposed in classrooms at all levels also plays a role in stifling full and honest inquiry.


    As does the demonstrably false dogma that:

    (1). Columbus was a hero/goodie instead of an opportunistic a-hole.

    (2). Thanksgiving is simply a day of togetherness (it is, and has been for decades if not hundreds of years), instead of a symbol (because of our collective inability to admit the truth in a public proclamation) that it's a celebration of taking advantage of a nice and kind indigenous people who sheltered (again, collective, "us" (pun intended "U.S.")), and who we then systematically moved and committed genocide against by the means of, inter alia, passing out "small pox" infested blankets. Classy. As a Native Oklahoman, I can tell you first-hand that Thanksgiving is a contentious issue when you know the reality of the situation. It's something that is addressed with elementary students in Oklahoma in a "well it's a fun Holiday, but there's this bad part." Cognitive dissonance at its finest.

    (3). MLK was the second coming of Christ. Surprised? Perhaps, or perhaps you've caught-on that I really only care about truth. Both JFK and MLK committed ADULTERY and have tarnished records. While I believe their records are stronger--even in a moral sense--than my and most other peoples' records, I would be remiss if I held either of them up at complete saints. They are and were saints, but were NOT perfect in the flesh. In short, they couldn't keep "it" in their pants. A common affliction.

    Should I continue? Or is this enough to remind you of the truth that the false-equivalency of the right/left being equally "wrong" (morally perhaps, but at least in terms of political opinion) is simply an illogical fallacy?

    And please don't pull the argumentum ad idiota that "Republicans" freed the slaves. I'm well versed in American political history and understand the three major flips the two major parties have made since the 1776.

  • roadbikeRob

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    Oct 20, 2015 4:36 PM GMT
    Svnw688 said
    MGINSD saidThe commentator's statement re: a lack of intellectual curiosity is correct, but it needs to go further, and be taken up by the offending media themselves. The strictures of political rectitude - cf. "correctness" - being imposed in classrooms at all levels also plays a role in stifling full and honest inquiry.


    As does the demonstrably false dogma that:

    (1). Columbus was a hero/goodie instead of an opportunistic a-hole.

    (2). Thanksgiving is simply a day of togetherness (it is, and has been for decades if not hundreds of years), instead of a symbol (because of our collective inability to admit the truth in a public proclamation) that it's a celebration of taking advantage of a nice and kind indigenous people who sheltered (again, collective, "us" (pun intended "U.S.")), and who we then systematically moved and committed genocide against by the means of, inter alia, passing out "small pox" infested blankets. Classy. As a Native Oklahoman, I can tell you first-hand that Thanksgiving is a contentious issue when you know the reality of the situation. It's something that is addressed with elementary students in Oklahoma in a "well it's a fun Holiday, but there's this bad part." Cognitive dissonance at its finest.

    (3). MLK was the second coming of Christ. Surprised? Perhaps, or perhaps you've caught-on that I really only care about truth. Both JFK and MLK committed ADULTERY and have tarnished records. While I believe their records are stronger--even in a moral sense--than my and most other peoples' records, I would be remiss if I held either of them up at complete saints. They are and were saints, but were NOT perfect in the flesh. In short, they couldn't keep "it" in their pants. A common affliction.

    Should I continue? Or is this enough to remind you of the truth that the false-equivalency of the right/left being equally "wrong" (morally perhaps, but at least in terms of political opinion) is simply an illogical fallacy?

    And please don't pull the argumentum ad idiota that "Republicans" freed the slaves. I'm well versed in American political history and understand the three major flips the two major parties have made since the 1776.

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  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Oct 20, 2015 4:56 PM GMT
    One of the things I actually DO like about Donald Trump is that he's always pointing out how intellectually dishonest the media is, and he also knows how to play them like a fiddle.
  • tj85016

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    Oct 20, 2015 5:00 PM GMT
    regardless of which side you're on (MSNBC or FOX or CNN) it's funny to watch these rats on TV scramble when things don't go according to their agendas - it's so blatantly obvious
  • roadbikeRob

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    Oct 20, 2015 5:13 PM GMT
    Well I definitely do not trust the Buffalo News and get my local and regional news from weekly alternative papers Artvoice and The Public. The Buffalo News sucks and that is largely because it is owned by what's his face from Omaha.
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    Oct 20, 2015 7:13 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob said
    Svnw688 said
    MGINSD saidThe commentator's statement re: a lack of intellectual curiosity is correct, but it needs to go further, and be taken up by the offending media themselves. The strictures of political rectitude - cf. "correctness" - being imposed in classrooms at all levels also plays a role in stifling full and honest inquiry.


    As does the demonstrably false dogma that:

    (1). Columbus was a hero/goodie instead of an opportunistic a-hole.

    (2). Thanksgiving is simply a day of togetherness (it is, and has been for decades if not hundreds of years), instead of a symbol (because of our collective inability to admit the truth in a public proclamation) that it's a celebration of taking advantage of a nice and kind indigenous people who sheltered (again, collective, "us" (pun intended "U.S.")), and who we then systematically moved and committed genocide against by the means of, inter alia, passing out "small pox" infested blankets. Classy. As a Native Oklahoman, I can tell you first-hand that Thanksgiving is a contentious issue when you know the reality of the situation. It's something that is addressed with elementary students in Oklahoma in a "well it's a fun Holiday, but there's this bad part." Cognitive dissonance at its finest.

    (3). MLK was the second coming of Christ. Surprised? Perhaps, or perhaps you've caught-on that I really only care about truth. Both JFK and MLK committed ADULTERY and have tarnished records. While I believe their records are stronger--even in a moral sense--than my and most other peoples' records, I would be remiss if I held either of them up at complete saints. They are and were saints, but were NOT perfect in the flesh. In short, they couldn't keep "it" in their pants. A common affliction.

    Should I continue? Or is this enough to remind you of the truth that the false-equivalency of the right/left being equally "wrong" (morally perhaps, but at least in terms of political opinion) is simply an illogical fallacy?

    And please don't pull the argumentum ad idiota that "Republicans" freed the slaves. I'm well versed in American political history and understand the three major flips the two major parties have made since the 1776.

    Are you through flapping your jaws in the breezeicon_question.gif


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    Oct 20, 2015 7:34 PM GMT
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    As does the demonstrably false dogma that:
    ...
    (2). Thanksgiving is simply a day of togetherness (it is, and has been for decades if not hundreds of years), instead of a symbol (because of our collective inability to admit the truth in a public proclamation) that it's a celebration of taking advantage of a nice and kind indigenous people who ....


    What utter drivel! The concept of a Thanksgiving Feast has existed in English history for many hundred years. Typical insular American response to assume "Thanksgiving" is an American idea. The earliest recorded Thanksgiving dinner in Canada is attributed to Martin Frobisher in 1578, long before Plymouth Rock, and the native population had nothing to do with it. Frobisher was carrying on a tradition he brought from England: a heart-felt offering of Thanks to God, much the same way the Puritans in the U.S. carried on the Puritan tradition celebrated in England at that time.

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  • Lincsbear

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    Oct 20, 2015 10:25 PM GMT
    I take his points about the lack of intellectual curiosity, laziness, a diminishing attention span, and a parochial outlook in the US public.
    Similar trends hold here, too. Much of the media is concerned with 'accessibilty' ie it`s easy to understand and short/doesn`t contradict your views, rather than rigour or investigation.
    The competition for viewers/listeners has added to this quick superficiality. No one wants them to switch channels. But it looks like this desire to hold onto viewers might be backfiring on the television networks anyway.
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    Oct 21, 2015 2:39 AM GMT
    The media is a reflection of what we want. The media relies on ratings. And the truth is that we don't really want the news, nor the boring facts. That's why we don't spend hours watching PBS and CSPAN for the raw unfiltered facts. We want tragedy, drama, joy, redemption, conflict and entertainment. We say we hate smear campaigns, yet we consistently vote for the smearer. When we do watch the "news" we want to hear the facts that support our view. Liberals have their news sources for their truth. Conservatives have their own. It's one big circle jerk. And many of us don't care so long as a hand is stroking us.

    From low information voters to untrustworthy media and politicians, I think people should look in the mirror if they want to know the reason. Its cause and effect.
  • Svnw688

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    Oct 21, 2015 6:08 AM GMT
    YVRguy said
    Svnw688 said


    As does the demonstrably false dogma that:
    ...
    (2). Thanksgiving is simply a day of togetherness (it is, and has been for decades if not hundreds of years), instead of a symbol (because of our collective inability to admit the truth in a public proclamation) that it's a celebration of taking advantage of a nice and kind indigenous people who ....


    What utter drivel! The concept of a Thanksgiving Feast has existed in English history for many hundred years. Typical insular American response to assume "Thanksgiving" is an American idea. The earliest recorded Thanksgiving dinner in Canada is attributed to Martin Frobisher in 1578, long before Plymouth Rock, and the native population had nothing to do with it. Frobisher was carrying on a tradition he brought from England: a heart-felt offering of Thanks to God, much the same way the Puritans in the U.S. carried on the Puritan tradition celebrated in England at that time.

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    I never said Thanksgiving was ONLY an American iteration, but I was critiquing our particular iteration of it since it has been used since the days of George Washington and then Lincoln to celebrate America, which is by operation of logic white-washing the genocide of Native Americans. But thanks for your archaic, random Candaian example of a "Thanksgiving," even though you'd need a professor with microfiche on the third floor of a library to know your obscure reference.

    I don't have time to reinvent the wheel every time I make a statement, if you want to nit-pick, fine. You only look like an ass.