The Dangers Of Being LGBT In ‘Tolerant’ Philippines

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    Oct 19, 2015 5:39 AM GMT
    The Dangers Of Being LGBT In ‘Tolerant’ Philippines

    “There is high tolerance here, there’s not real acceptance.”


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/lgbt-philippines_5614f92fe4b021e856d2d870
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    Oct 19, 2015 5:54 AM GMT
    Being half Filipino this is just so heartbreaking. More reasons why I would never trust a white man.
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    Oct 19, 2015 5:57 AM GMT
    ONCE AGAIN......a transgender tricks a STRAIGHT MAN into having sex with her, knowing full well that many men go ape shit when they realize they've just unknowingly slept with a man. And she picks a Marine to fuck with?

    There is no excuse for murder of course but I'm having trouble feeling sorry for these transidiots who continue to trick and taunt heterosexual men. It's like throwing rocks at a hornet's nest.
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    Oct 19, 2015 9:37 AM GMT
    Mesmer saidBeing half Filipino this is just so heartbreaking. More reasons why I would never trust a white man.


    Incredibly offensively racist comment to make!
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    Oct 19, 2015 2:20 PM GMT
    Extraordinarily horrible as this case is, I don't believe that this crime has anything to do with race. To be clear, we cannot blame the victim here--no amount of dishonesty or trickery deserves a homicide. The blame necessarily falls on the perpetrator. I question whether the victim deliberately deceived the guy. This may have been a miscommunication issue. I say this because, while the majority of Filipinos speak English, many in the provinces and rural areas don't speak English very well (and even if they do speak English, their accent many not be easy to understand).
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    DOMINUS saidExtraordinarily horrible as this case is, I don't believe that this crime has anything to do with race. To be clear, we cannot blame the victim here--no amount of dishonesty or trickery deserves a homicide. The blame necessarily falls on the perpetrator. I question whether the victim deliberately deceived the guy. This may have been a miscommunication issue. I say this because, while the majority of Filipinos speak English, many in the provinces and rural areas don't speak English very well (and even if they do speak English, their accent many not be easy to understand).



    Agreed. But if you're a tranny and you're hooking up with American Marines, you better learn to say at least TWO little words before things go too far....."ME TRANNY."
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    Radd saidONCE AGAIN......a transgender tricks a STRAIGHT MAN into having sex with her, knowing full well that many men go ape shit when they realize they've just unknowingly slept with a man. And she picks a Marine to fuck with?

    There is no excuse for murder of course but I'm having trouble feeling sorry for these transidiots who continue to trick and taunt heterosexual men. It's like throwing rocks at a hornet's nest.


    Regarding the Gay/Trans "Panic Defense"

    Are we supposed to believe that he was so SHOCKED he had to subdue her for fear of him being raped? This big strong MARINE? couldn't subdue a small framed Filipino Transsexual? Without killing her?

    Just on the face of it it's preposterous.

    "In the past, defendants in murder cases were often able to argue their way to the lesser charge of manslaughter if the killings happened during a "sudden quarrel" or in the "heat of passion," which frequently saw defendants claiming they were so shocked to learn that their victim was gay or trans that they had no other recourse besides violence.

    "The new law clearly outlines that a defendant's discomfort with, surprise at, or fear of a victim's sexual orientation or gender identity may not be used as a legal defense to justify the assault."

    http://www.advocate.com/crime/2014/09/29/california-becomes-first-state-ban-gay-trans-panic-defenses

    Radd, you are blaming the victim.


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    Radd saidONCE AGAIN......a transgender tricks a STRAIGHT MAN into having sex with her, knowing full well that many men go ape shit when they realize they've just unknowingly slept with a man. And she picks a Marine to fuck with?

    There is no excuse for murder of course but I'm having trouble feeling sorry for these transidiots who continue to trick and taunt heterosexual men. It's like throwing rocks at a hornet's nest.


    Regarding the Gay/Trans "Panic Defense"

    Are we supposed to believe that he was so SHOCKED he had to subdue her for fear of him being raped? This big strong MARINE? couldn't subdue a small framed Filipino Transsexual? Without killing her?

    Just on the face of it it's preposterous.

    "In the past, defendants in murder cases were often able to argue their way to the lesser charge of manslaughter if the killings happened during a "sudden quarrel" or in the "heat of passion," which frequently saw defendants claiming they were so shocked to learn that their victim was gay or trans that they had no other recourse besides violence.

    "The new law clearly outlines that a defendant's discomfort with, surprise at, or fear of a victim's sexual orientation or gender identity may not be used as a legal defense to justify the assault."

    http://www.advocate.com/crime/2014/09/29/california-becomes-first-state-ban-gay-trans-panic-defenses

    Radd, you are blaming the victim.






    I am blaming the victim in the same sense I would blame someone for being stupid enough to walk through a known dangerous neighborhood at night. Does it justify murder or violence? NO. But....you have to be pretty fucking stupid to flirt with danger like this. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that many hetersexual men do not like being tricked into thinking their sleeping with a women. It's a known fact that many men will get violent when tricked in this way, so why risk your life trying to deceive them? Oh nevermind, I know why.....because trannies just have to have straight men. It's a personal challenge for them to seduce them because that makes them feel like "a real woman." I'm sorry, it's just stupid stupid stupid!
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    timmm55 said
    Radd saidONCE AGAIN......a transgender tricks a STRAIGHT MAN into having sex with her, knowing full well that many men go ape shit when they realize they've just unknowingly slept with a man. And she picks a Marine to fuck with?

    There is no excuse for murder of course but I'm having trouble feeling sorry for these transidiots who continue to trick and taunt heterosexual men. It's like throwing rocks at a hornet's nest.


    Regarding the Gay/Trans "Panic Defense"

    Are we supposed to believe that he was so SHOCKED he had to subdue her for fear of him being raped? This big strong MARINE? couldn't subdue a small framed Filipino Transsexual? Without killing her?

    Just on the face of it it's preposterous.

    "In the past, defendants in murder cases were often able to argue their way to the lesser charge of manslaughter if the killings happened during a "sudden quarrel" or in the "heat of passion," which frequently saw defendants claiming they were so shocked to learn that their victim was gay or trans that they had no other recourse besides violence.

    "The new law clearly outlines that a defendant's discomfort with, surprise at, or fear of a victim's sexual orientation or gender identity may not be used as a legal defense to justify the assault."

    http://www.advocate.com/crime/2014/09/29/california-becomes-first-state-ban-gay-trans-panic-defenses

    Radd, you are blaming the victim.






    I am blaming the victim in the same sense I would blame someone for being stupid enough to walk through a known dangerous neighborhood at night. Does it justify murder or violence? NO. But....you have to be pretty fucking stupid to flirt with danger like this. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that many hetersexual men do not like being tricked into thinking their sleeping with a women. It's a known fact that many men will get violent when tricked in this way, so why risk your life trying to deceive them? Oh nevermind, I know why.....because trannies just have to have straight men. It's a personal challenge for them to seduce them because that makes them feel like "a real woman." I'm sorry, it's just stupid stupid stupid!


    How do you know the Marine DIDN'T know? Perhaps he lured her to the hotel well knowing what she was. Maybe he wanted to experiment and got cold feet? Maybe he was disgusted before and wanted to extract judgement, revenge.

    You automatically assume the transsexual was guilty.

    Many murderers pinpoint prostitutes, transsexuals, and street people because they are already marginalized. The are on the fringe and won't be missed.

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    Oct 20, 2015 12:52 AM GMT
    I really like what you said but I would like to know more please .
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    timmm55 said
    Radd said
    timmm55 said
    Radd saidONCE AGAIN......a transgender tricks a STRAIGHT MAN into having sex with her, knowing full well that many men go ape shit when they realize they've just unknowingly slept with a man. And she picks a Marine to fuck with?

    There is no excuse for murder of course but I'm having trouble feeling sorry for these transidiots who continue to trick and taunt heterosexual men. It's like throwing rocks at a hornet's nest.


    Regarding the Gay/Trans "Panic Defense"

    Are we supposed to believe that he was so SHOCKED he had to subdue her for fear of him being raped? This big strong MARINE? couldn't subdue a small framed Filipino Transsexual? Without killing her?

    Just on the face of it it's preposterous.

    "In the past, defendants in murder cases were often able to argue their way to the lesser charge of manslaughter if the killings happened during a "sudden quarrel" or in the "heat of passion," which frequently saw defendants claiming they were so shocked to learn that their victim was gay or trans that they had no other recourse besides violence.

    "The new law clearly outlines that a defendant's discomfort with, surprise at, or fear of a victim's sexual orientation or gender identity may not be used as a legal defense to justify the assault."

    http://www.advocate.com/crime/2014/09/29/california-becomes-first-state-ban-gay-trans-panic-defenses

    Radd, you are blaming the victim.






    I am blaming the victim in the same sense I would blame someone for being stupid enough to walk through a known dangerous neighborhood at night. Does it justify murder or violence? NO. But....you have to be pretty fucking stupid to flirt with danger like this. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that many hetersexual men do not like being tricked into thinking their sleeping with a women. It's a known fact that many men will get violent when tricked in this way, so why risk your life trying to deceive them? Oh nevermind, I know why.....because trannies just have to have straight men. It's a personal challenge for them to seduce them because that makes them feel like "a real woman." I'm sorry, it's just stupid stupid stupid!


    How do you know the Marine DIDN'T know? Perhaps he lured her to the hotel well knowing what she was. Maybe he wanted to experiment and got cold feet? Maybe he was disgusted before and wanted to extract judgement, revenge.

    You automatically assume the transsexual was guilty.



    Read the article. Of course no knows the truth of what happened but him, but he has stated he had no idea until they had sex with her. He also said he felt he had been raped. And yes, I know it's highly likely that she lied about her sex because I've never met a tranny who didn't trick straight men. If a woman were to have sex with someone she thought was a woman who turned out to be a man, our society would be outraged. But everyone acts like it's okay to deceive a man.
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    Oct 20, 2015 1:47 AM GMT
    Radd said
    timmm55 said
    Radd said
    timmm55 said
    Radd saidONCE AGAIN......a transgender tricks a STRAIGHT MAN into having sex with her, knowing full well that many men go ape shit when they realize they've just unknowingly slept with a man. And she picks a Marine to fuck with?

    There is no excuse for murder of course but I'm having trouble feeling sorry for these transidiots who continue to trick and taunt heterosexual men. It's like throwing rocks at a hornet's nest.


    Regarding the Gay/Trans "Panic Defense"

    Are we supposed to believe that he was so SHOCKED he had to subdue her for fear of him being raped? This big strong MARINE? couldn't subdue a small framed Filipino Transsexual? Without killing her?

    Just on the face of it it's preposterous.

    "In the past, defendants in murder cases were often able to argue their way to the lesser charge of manslaughter if the killings happened during a "sudden quarrel" or in the "heat of passion," which frequently saw defendants claiming they were so shocked to learn that their victim was gay or trans that they had no other recourse besides violence.

    "The new law clearly outlines that a defendant's discomfort with, surprise at, or fear of a victim's sexual orientation or gender identity may not be used as a legal defense to justify the assault."

    http://www.advocate.com/crime/2014/09/29/california-becomes-first-state-ban-gay-trans-panic-defenses

    Radd, you are blaming the victim.






    I am blaming the victim in the same sense I would blame someone for being stupid enough to walk through a known dangerous neighborhood at night. Does it justify murder or violence? NO. But....you have to be pretty fucking stupid to flirt with danger like this. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that many hetersexual men do not like being tricked into thinking their sleeping with a women. It's a known fact that many men will get violent when tricked in this way, so why risk your life trying to deceive them? Oh nevermind, I know why.....because trannies just have to have straight men. It's a personal challenge for them to seduce them because that makes them feel like "a real woman." I'm sorry, it's just stupid stupid stupid!


    How do you know the Marine DIDN'T know? Perhaps he lured her to the hotel well knowing what she was. Maybe he wanted to experiment and got cold feet? Maybe he was disgusted before and wanted to extract judgement, revenge.

    You automatically assume the transsexual was guilty.



    Read the article. Of course no knows the truth of what happened but him, but he has stated he had no idea until they had sex with her. He also said he felt he had been raped. And yes, I know it's highly likely that she lied about her sex because I've never met a tranny who didn't trick straight men. If a woman were to have sex with someone she thought was a woman who turned out to be a man, our society would be outraged. But everyone acts like it's okay to deceive a man.


    I read the article. Of course he states the 'panic defense' it's been used for decades. We can't know what Jennifer has to say because she is dead.

    He picked up TWO transsexuals from the club. Two? What are the chances of that? Was it a transsexual bar? Some men are into that. The other lucky transsexual went to get condoms. She can fill in what happened prior to her leaving the room.

    Since they filed for murder rather than manslaughter I'm guessing the living witness has some damaging information for the Marine.
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    Oct 20, 2015 2:18 AM GMT
    Ambyanz Disco Bar


    Looks like it is crawling with transsexuals!

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    timmm55 said
    Radd said
    timmm55 said
    Radd said
    timmm55 said
    Radd saidONCE AGAIN......a transgender tricks a STRAIGHT MAN into having sex with her, knowing full well that many men go ape shit when they realize they've just unknowingly slept with a man. And she picks a Marine to fuck with?

    There is no excuse for murder of course but I'm having trouble feeling sorry for these transidiots who continue to trick and taunt heterosexual men. It's like throwing rocks at a hornet's nest.


    Regarding the Gay/Trans "Panic Defense"

    Are we supposed to believe that he was so SHOCKED he had to subdue her for fear of him being raped? This big strong MARINE? couldn't subdue a small framed Filipino Transsexual? Without killing her?

    Just on the face of it it's preposterous.

    "In the past, defendants in murder cases were often able to argue their way to the lesser charge of manslaughter if the killings happened during a "sudden quarrel" or in the "heat of passion," which frequently saw defendants claiming they were so shocked to learn that their victim was gay or trans that they had no other recourse besides violence.

    "The new law clearly outlines that a defendant's discomfort with, surprise at, or fear of a victim's sexual orientation or gender identity may not be used as a legal defense to justify the assault."

    http://www.advocate.com/crime/2014/09/29/california-becomes-first-state-ban-gay-trans-panic-defenses

    Radd, you are blaming the victim.






    I am blaming the victim in the same sense I would blame someone for being stupid enough to walk through a known dangerous neighborhood at night. Does it justify murder or violence? NO. But....you have to be pretty fucking stupid to flirt with danger like this. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that many hetersexual men do not like being tricked into thinking their sleeping with a women. It's a known fact that many men will get violent when tricked in this way, so why risk your life trying to deceive them? Oh nevermind, I know why.....because trannies just have to have straight men. It's a personal challenge for them to seduce them because that makes them feel like "a real woman." I'm sorry, it's just stupid stupid stupid!


    How do you know the Marine DIDN'T know? Perhaps he lured her to the hotel well knowing what she was. Maybe he wanted to experiment and got cold feet? Maybe he was disgusted before and wanted to extract judgement, revenge.

    You automatically assume the transsexual was guilty.



    Read the article. Of course no knows the truth of what happened but him, but he has stated he had no idea until they had sex with her. He also said he felt he had been raped. And yes, I know it's highly likely that she lied about her sex because I've never met a tranny who didn't trick straight men. If a woman were to have sex with someone she thought was a woman who turned out to be a man, our society would be outraged. But everyone acts like it's okay to deceive a man.


    I read the article. Of course he states the 'panic defense' it's been used for decades. We can't know what Jennifer has to say because she is dead.

    He picked up TWO transsexuals from the club. Two? What are the chances of that? Was it a transsexual bar? Some men are into that. The other lucky transsexual went to get condoms. She can fill in what happened prior to her leaving the room.

    Since they filed for murder rather than manslaughter I'm guessing the living witness has some damaging information for the Marine.




    Maybe she does. I have no dog in this fight. And I'm not saying he shouldn't be charged with murder. All I'm saying is trannies need to stop deceiving straight men. Period.

    We as gay men forget how easily straight men are fooled. We see drag queens and trannies all the time but they do not. So it takes a damn good tranny to fool us but they can be deceived by the worst drag queens at times. I have friends visit me here in New Orleans all the time and every time I walk a friend down Bourbon Street I know I'm going to have to pull my friend off of some bad tranny because they just see a girl who wants to have sex with them.

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    Oct 20, 2015 7:07 PM GMT
    That's what a deceiver gets. You lie, you get killed. The end.
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    Radd said
    timmm55 said
    Radd said
    timmm55 said
    Radd said
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    Radd saidONCE AGAIN......a transgender tricks a STRAIGHT MAN into having sex with her, knowing full well that many men go ape shit when they realize they've just unknowingly slept with a man. And she picks a Marine to fuck with?

    There is no excuse for murder of course but I'm having trouble feeling sorry for these transidiots who continue to trick and taunt heterosexual men. It's like throwing rocks at a hornet's nest.


    Regarding the Gay/Trans "Panic Defense"

    Are we supposed to believe that he was so SHOCKED he had to subdue her for fear of him being raped? This big strong MARINE? couldn't subdue a small framed Filipino Transsexual? Without killing her?

    Just on the face of it it's preposterous.

    "In the past, defendants in murder cases were often able to argue their way to the lesser charge of manslaughter if the killings happened during a "sudden quarrel" or in the "heat of passion," which frequently saw defendants claiming they were so shocked to learn that their victim was gay or trans that they had no other recourse besides violence.

    "The new law clearly outlines that a defendant's discomfort with, surprise at, or fear of a victim's sexual orientation or gender identity may not be used as a legal defense to justify the assault."

    http://www.advocate.com/crime/2014/09/29/california-becomes-first-state-ban-gay-trans-panic-defenses

    Radd, you are blaming the victim.






    I am blaming the victim in the same sense I would blame someone for being stupid enough to walk through a known dangerous neighborhood at night. Does it justify murder or violence? NO. But....you have to be pretty fucking stupid to flirt with danger like this. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that many hetersexual men do not like being tricked into thinking their sleeping with a women. It's a known fact that many men will get violent when tricked in this way, so why risk your life trying to deceive them? Oh nevermind, I know why.....because trannies just have to have straight men. It's a personal challenge for them to seduce them because that makes them feel like "a real woman." I'm sorry, it's just stupid stupid stupid!


    How do you know the Marine DIDN'T know? Perhaps he lured her to the hotel well knowing what she was. Maybe he wanted to experiment and got cold feet? Maybe he was disgusted before and wanted to extract judgement, revenge.

    You automatically assume the transsexual was guilty.



    Read the article. Of course no knows the truth of what happened but him, but he has stated he had no idea until they had sex with her. He also said he felt he had been raped. And yes, I know it's highly likely that she lied about her sex because I've never met a tranny who didn't trick straight men. If a woman were to have sex with someone she thought was a woman who turned out to be a man, our society would be outraged. But everyone acts like it's okay to deceive a man.


    I read the article. Of course he states the 'panic defense' it's been used for decades. We can't know what Jennifer has to say because she is dead.

    He picked up TWO transsexuals from the club. Two? What are the chances of that? Was it a transsexual bar? Some men are into that. The other lucky transsexual went to get condoms. She can fill in what happened prior to her leaving the room.

    Since they filed for murder rather than manslaughter I'm guessing the living witness has some damaging information for the Marine.




    Maybe she does. I have no dog in this fight. And I'm not saying he shouldn't be charged with murder. All I'm saying is trannies need to stop deceiving straight men. Period.

    We as gay men forget how easily straight men are fooled. We see drag queens and trannies all the time but they do not. So it takes a damn good tranny to fool us but they can be deceived by the worst drag queens at times. I have friends visit me here in New Orleans all the time and every time I walk a friend down Bourbon Street I know I'm going to have to pull my friend off of some bad tranny because they just see a girl who wants to have sex with them.



    I don't have a dog in this fight either. God knows I'm not into Trans or 19 year old boys!

    Neither of us know the details yet. I can't presume, but you do.
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    Oct 20, 2015 9:32 PM GMT
    The video at the end of the article updates the story. Basically saying that the Philippine government and citizens are not letting this be swept under the rug and are calling for justice for the victim.
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    It would be no different to one being picked up by a trans man, and finding they had a vagina. One would be royally pissed as I'm not a bisexual. Albeit I'm sure this will not come to pass, as most trans men seem to be lesbians.
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    timmm55 said
    Radd said
    timmm55 said
    Radd said
    timmm55 said
    Radd said
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    Radd saidONCE AGAIN......a transgender tricks a STRAIGHT MAN into having sex with her, knowing full well that many men go ape shit when they realize they've just unknowingly slept with a man. And she picks a Marine to fuck with?

    There is no excuse for murder of course but I'm having trouble feeling sorry for these transidiots who continue to trick and taunt heterosexual men. It's like throwing rocks at a hornet's nest.


    Regarding the Gay/Trans "Panic Defense"

    Are we supposed to believe that he was so SHOCKED he had to subdue her for fear of him being raped? This big strong MARINE? couldn't subdue a small framed Filipino Transsexual? Without killing her?

    Just on the face of it it's preposterous.

    "In the past, defendants in murder cases were often able to argue their way to the lesser charge of manslaughter if the killings happened during a "sudden quarrel" or in the "heat of passion," which frequently saw defendants claiming they were so shocked to learn that their victim was gay or trans that they had no other recourse besides violence.

    "The new law clearly outlines that a defendant's discomfort with, surprise at, or fear of a victim's sexual orientation or gender identity may not be used as a legal defense to justify the assault."

    http://www.advocate.com/crime/2014/09/29/california-becomes-first-state-ban-gay-trans-panic-defenses

    Radd, you are blaming the victim.






    I am blaming the victim in the same sense I would blame someone for being stupid enough to walk through a known dangerous neighborhood at night. Does it justify murder or violence? NO. But....you have to be pretty fucking stupid to flirt with danger like this. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that many hetersexual men do not like being tricked into thinking their sleeping with a women. It's a known fact that many men will get violent when tricked in this way, so why risk your life trying to deceive them? Oh nevermind, I know why.....because trannies just have to have straight men. It's a personal challenge for them to seduce them because that makes them feel like "a real woman." I'm sorry, it's just stupid stupid stupid!


    How do you know the Marine DIDN'T know? Perhaps he lured her to the hotel well knowing what she was. Maybe he wanted to experiment and got cold feet? Maybe he was disgusted before and wanted to extract judgement, revenge.

    You automatically assume the transsexual was guilty.



    Read the article. Of course no knows the truth of what happened but him, but he has stated he had no idea until they had sex with her. He also said he felt he had been raped. And yes, I know it's highly likely that she lied about her sex because I've never met a tranny who didn't trick straight men. If a woman were to have sex with someone she thought was a woman who turned out to be a man, our society would be outraged. But everyone acts like it's okay to deceive a man.


    I read the article. Of course he states the 'panic defense' it's been used for decades. We can't know what Jennifer has to say because she is dead.

    He picked up TWO transsexuals from the club. Two? What are the chances of that? Was it a transsexual bar? Some men are into that. The other lucky transsexual went to get condoms. She can fill in what happened prior to her leaving the room.

    Since they filed for murder rather than manslaughter I'm guessing the living witness has some damaging information for the Marine.




    Maybe she does. I have no dog in this fight. And I'm not saying he shouldn't be charged with murder. All I'm saying is trannies need to stop deceiving straight men. Period.

    We as gay men forget how easily straight men are fooled. We see drag queens and trannies all the time but they do not. So it takes a damn good tranny to fool us but they can be deceived by the worst drag queens at times. I have friends visit me here in New Orleans all the time and every time I walk a friend down Bourbon Street I know I'm going to have to pull my friend off of some bad tranny because they just see a girl who wants to have sex with them.



    I don't have a dog in this fight either. God knows I'm not into Trans or 19 year old boys!

    Neither of us know the details yet. I can't presume, but you do.



    Wrong. You're biased and I'm going by what the Marine said in the article. He specifically said he had no idea it was a guy. Your bias comes from being politically correct, which is a disease in itself. It prevents you from using your brain and reasoning skills.
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    Oct 21, 2015 2:18 AM GMT
    Disclosing the fact that you are transexual is as important as disclosing your HIV positive status with potential sexual partners.

    Neither of these two things are written on a person's forehead, and neither of the two things should be absolutely accepted beforehand as being potentially existent as part of some individual's background.

    Both can be a dealbreaker for many people too. Even if your HIV status is "undetectable", and even if you are now 'fully woman'. Disclosing is not a choice, it's a rule. When you involve other people sexually.


    I'm sorry to say though, but the victim is not entirely 100% out of blame here. Maybe it wouldn't have been a marine, it may have been a sociopath or a psychopath, and this was the trigger that let them down the dark rabbit hole that they can't get out themselves.

    This didn't justify homicide though. Rarely anything does. But the fact that he was a marine excuses him even less. Going in the army, navy, or airforce, you learn of self-control and discipline, the type you cannot learn it from elsewhere that astutely. Given he was still young, I believe the article said he was 19, that's not an excuse, he should've had greater self control.




    I'm not sure why this is a debate too. Things are very simple if you look at them without inherent bias.
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    timmm55 said
    Radd said
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    Radd said
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    Radd saidONCE AGAIN......a transgender tricks a STRAIGHT MAN into having sex with her, knowing full well that many men go ape shit when they realize they've just unknowingly slept with a man. And she picks a Marine to fuck with?

    There is no excuse for murder of course but I'm having trouble feeling sorry for these transidiots who continue to trick and taunt heterosexual men. It's like throwing rocks at a hornet's nest.


    Regarding the Gay/Trans "Panic Defense"

    Are we supposed to believe that he was so SHOCKED he had to subdue her for fear of him being raped? This big strong MARINE? couldn't subdue a small framed Filipino Transsexual? Without killing her?

    Just on the face of it it's preposterous.

    "In the past, defendants in murder cases were often able to argue their way to the lesser charge of manslaughter if the killings happened during a "sudden quarrel" or in the "heat of passion," which frequently saw defendants claiming they were so shocked to learn that their victim was gay or trans that they had no other recourse besides violence.

    "The new law clearly outlines that a defendant's discomfort with, surprise at, or fear of a victim's sexual orientation or gender identity may not be used as a legal defense to justify the assault."

    http://www.advocate.com/crime/2014/09/29/california-becomes-first-state-ban-gay-trans-panic-defenses

    Radd, you are blaming the victim.






    I am blaming the victim in the same sense I would blame someone for being stupid enough to walk through a known dangerous neighborhood at night. Does it justify murder or violence? NO. But....you have to be pretty fucking stupid to flirt with danger like this. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that many hetersexual men do not like being tricked into thinking their sleeping with a women. It's a known fact that many men will get violent when tricked in this way, so why risk your life trying to deceive them? Oh nevermind, I know why.....because trannies just have to have straight men. It's a personal challenge for them to seduce them because that makes them feel like "a real woman." I'm sorry, it's just stupid stupid stupid!


    How do you know the Marine DIDN'T know? Perhaps he lured her to the hotel well knowing what she was. Maybe he wanted to experiment and got cold feet? Maybe he was disgusted before and wanted to extract judgement, revenge.

    You automatically assume the transsexual was guilty.



    Read the article. Of course no knows the truth of what happened but him, but he has stated he had no idea until they had sex with her. He also said he felt he had been raped. And yes, I know it's highly likely that she lied about her sex because I've never met a tranny who didn't trick straight men. If a woman were to have sex with someone she thought was a woman who turned out to be a man, our society would be outraged. But everyone acts like it's okay to deceive a man.


    I read the article. Of course he states the 'panic defense' it's been used for decades. We can't know what Jennifer has to say because she is dead.

    He picked up TWO transsexuals from the club. Two? What are the chances of that? Was it a transsexual bar? Some men are into that. The other lucky transsexual went to get condoms. She can fill in what happened prior to her leaving the room.

    Since they filed for murder rather than manslaughter I'm guessing the living witness has some damaging information for the Marine.




    Maybe she does. I have no dog in this fight. And I'm not saying he shouldn't be charged with murder. All I'm saying is trannies need to stop deceiving straight men. Period.

    We as gay men forget how easily straight men are fooled. We see drag queens and trannies all the time but they do not. So it takes a damn good tranny to fool us but they can be deceived by the worst drag queens at times. I have friends visit me here in New Orleans all the time and every time I walk a friend down Bourbon Street I know I'm going to have to pull my friend off of some bad tranny because they just see a girl who wants to have sex with them.



    I don't have a dog in this fight either. God knows I'm not into Trans or 19 year old boys!

    Neither of us know the details yet. I can't presume, but you do.



    Wrong. You're biased and I'm going by what the Marine said in the article. He specifically said he had no idea it was a guy. Your bias comes from being politically correct, which is a disease in itself. It prevents you from using your brain and reasoning skills.


    Nope, sorry. The basis of jurisprudence is "innocent until proven guilty." I haven't heard enough on either side to decide. In the 2nd comment state: "ONCE AGAIN......a transgender tricks a STRAIGHT MAN...." showing bias. I was trying to show another view.

    Obviously you aren't PC. Tranny is offensive to them. Is it that hard to include transsexual into your vocabulary?
    I think PC should stand for Polite Conversation. It isn't all that political......except to Republicans who like to call people offensive names.
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    Radd said
    timmm55 said
    Radd said
    timmm55 said
    Radd said
    timmm55 said
    Radd said
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    Radd saidONCE AGAIN......a transgender tricks a STRAIGHT MAN into having sex with her, knowing full well that many men go ape shit when they realize they've just unknowingly slept with a man. And she picks a Marine to fuck with?

    There is no excuse for murder of course but I'm having trouble feeling sorry for these transidiots who continue to trick and taunt heterosexual men. It's like throwing rocks at a hornet's nest.


    Regarding the Gay/Trans "Panic Defense"

    Are we supposed to believe that he was so SHOCKED he had to subdue her for fear of him being raped? This big strong MARINE? couldn't subdue a small framed Filipino Transsexual? Without killing her?

    Just on the face of it it's preposterous.

    "In the past, defendants in murder cases were often able to argue their way to the lesser charge of manslaughter if the killings happened during a "sudden quarrel" or in the "heat of passion," which frequently saw defendants claiming they were so shocked to learn that their victim was gay or trans that they had no other recourse besides violence.

    "The new law clearly outlines that a defendant's discomfort with, surprise at, or fear of a victim's sexual orientation or gender identity may not be used as a legal defense to justify the assault."

    http://www.advocate.com/crime/2014/09/29/california-becomes-first-state-ban-gay-trans-panic-defenses

    Radd, you are blaming the victim.






    I am blaming the victim in the same sense I would blame someone for being stupid enough to walk through a known dangerous neighborhood at night. Does it justify murder or violence? NO. But....you have to be pretty fucking stupid to flirt with danger like this. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that many hetersexual men do not like being tricked into thinking their sleeping with a women. It's a known fact that many men will get violent when tricked in this way, so why risk your life trying to deceive them? Oh nevermind, I know why.....because trannies just have to have straight men. It's a personal challenge for them to seduce them because that makes them feel like "a real woman." I'm sorry, it's just stupid stupid stupid!


    How do you know the Marine DIDN'T know? Perhaps he lured her to the hotel well knowing what she was. Maybe he wanted to experiment and got cold feet? Maybe he was disgusted before and wanted to extract judgement, revenge.

    You automatically assume the transsexual was guilty.



    Read the article. Of course no knows the truth of what happened but him, but he has stated he had no idea until they had sex with her. He also said he felt he had been raped. And yes, I know it's highly likely that she lied about her sex because I've never met a tranny who didn't trick straight men. If a woman were to have sex with someone she thought was a woman who turned out to be a man, our society would be outraged. But everyone acts like it's okay to deceive a man.


    I read the article. Of course he states the 'panic defense' it's been used for decades. We can't know what Jennifer has to say because she is dead.

    He picked up TWO transsexuals from the club. Two? What are the chances of that? Was it a transsexual bar? Some men are into that. The other lucky transsexual went to get condoms. She can fill in what happened prior to her leaving the room.

    Since they filed for murder rather than manslaughter I'm guessing the living witness has some damaging information for the Marine.




    Maybe she does. I have no dog in this fight. And I'm not saying he shouldn't be charged with murder. All I'm saying is trannies need to stop deceiving straight men. Period.

    We as gay men forget how easily straight men are fooled. We see drag queens and trannies all the time but they do not. So it takes a damn good tranny to fool us but they can be deceived by the worst drag queens at times. I have friends visit me here in New Orleans all the time and every time I walk a friend down Bourbon Street I know I'm going to have to pull my friend off of some bad tranny because they just see a girl who wants to have sex with them.



    I don't have a dog in this fight either. God knows I'm not into Trans or 19 year old boys!

    Neither of us know the details yet. I can't presume, but you do.



    Wrong. You're biased and I'm going by what the Marine said in the article. He specifically said he had no idea it was a guy. Your bias comes from being politically correct, which is a disease in itself. It prevents you from using your brain and reasoning skills.


    Nope, sorry. The basis of jurisprudence is "innocent until proven guilty." I haven't heard enough on either side to decide. In the 2nd comment state: "ONCE AGAIN......a transgender tricks a STRAIGHT MAN...." showing bias. I was trying to show another view.

    Obviously you aren't PC. Tranny is offensive to them. Is it that hard to include transsexual into your vocabulary?
    I think PC should stand for Polite Conversation. It isn't all that political......except to Republicans who like to call people offensive names.



    It's funny how "tranny" was never offensive until someone decided that it was. Even Tranny Shack was forced to change their name due to the pressure from PC Police. If it's good enough for trannies to use, I'll use it too. You're not the word police.
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    Radd said
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    Radd said
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    Radd said
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    Radd said
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    Radd said
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    Radd saidONCE AGAIN......a transgender tricks a STRAIGHT MAN into having sex with her, knowing full well that many men go ape shit when they realize they've just unknowingly slept with a man. And she picks a Marine to fuck with?

    There is no excuse for murder of course but I'm having trouble feeling sorry for these transidiots who continue to trick and taunt heterosexual men. It's like throwing rocks at a hornet's nest.


    Regarding the Gay/Trans "Panic Defense"

    Are we supposed to believe that he was so SHOCKED he had to subdue her for fear of him being raped? This big strong MARINE? couldn't subdue a small framed Filipino Transsexual? Without killing her?

    Just on the face of it it's preposterous.

    "In the past, defendants in murder cases were often able to argue their way to the lesser charge of manslaughter if the killings happened during a "sudden quarrel" or in the "heat of passion," which frequently saw defendants claiming they were so shocked to learn that their victim was gay or trans that they had no other recourse besides violence.

    "The new law clearly outlines that a defendant's discomfort with, surprise at, or fear of a victim's sexual orientation or gender identity may not be used as a legal defense to justify the assault."

    http://www.advocate.com/crime/2014/09/29/california-becomes-first-state-ban-gay-trans-panic-defenses

    Radd, you are blaming the victim.






    I am blaming the victim in the same sense I would blame someone for being stupid enough to walk through a known dangerous neighborhood at night. Does it justify murder or violence? NO. But....you have to be pretty fucking stupid to flirt with danger like this. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that many hetersexual men do not like being tricked into thinking their sleeping with a women. It's a known fact that many men will get violent when tricked in this way, so why risk your life trying to deceive them? Oh nevermind, I know why.....because trannies just have to have straight men. It's a personal challenge for them to seduce them because that makes them feel like "a real woman." I'm sorry, it's just stupid stupid stupid!


    How do you know the Marine DIDN'T know? Perhaps he lured her to the hotel well knowing what she was. Maybe he wanted to experiment and got cold feet? Maybe he was disgusted before and wanted to extract judgement, revenge.

    You automatically assume the transsexual was guilty.



    Read the article. Of course no knows the truth of what happened but him, but he has stated he had no idea until they had sex with her. He also said he felt he had been raped. And yes, I know it's highly likely that she lied about her sex because I've never met a tranny who didn't trick straight men. If a woman were to have sex with someone she thought was a woman who turned out to be a man, our society would be outraged. But everyone acts like it's okay to deceive a man.


    I read the article. Of course he states the 'panic defense' it's been used for decades. We can't know what Jennifer has to say because she is dead.

    He picked up TWO transsexuals from the club. Two? What are the chances of that? Was it a transsexual bar? Some men are into that. The other lucky transsexual went to get condoms. She can fill in what happened prior to her leaving the room.

    Since they filed for murder rather than manslaughter I'm guessing the living witness has some damaging information for the Marine.




    Maybe she does. I have no dog in this fight. And I'm not saying he shouldn't be charged with murder. All I'm saying is trannies need to stop deceiving straight men. Period.

    We as gay men forget how easily straight men are fooled. We see drag queens and trannies all the time but they do not. So it takes a damn good tranny to fool us but they can be deceived by the worst drag queens at times. I have friends visit me here in New Orleans all the time and every time I walk a friend down Bourbon Street I know I'm going to have to pull my friend off of some bad tranny because they just see a girl who wants to have sex with them.



    I don't have a dog in this fight either. God knows I'm not into Trans or 19 year old boys!

    Neither of us know the details yet. I can't presume, but you do.



    Wrong. You're biased and I'm going by what the Marine said in the article. He specifically said he had no idea it was a guy. Your bias comes from being politically correct, which is a disease in itself. It prevents you from using your brain and reasoning skills.


    Nope, sorry. The basis of jurisprudence is "innocent until proven guilty." I haven't heard enough on either side to decide. In the 2nd comment state: "ONCE AGAIN......a transgender tricks a STRAIGHT MAN...." showing bias. I was trying to show another view.

    Obviously you aren't PC. Tranny is offensive to them. Is it that hard to include transsexual into your vocabulary?
    I think PC should stand for Polite Conversation. It isn't all that political......except to Republicans who like to call people offensive names.



    It's funny how "tranny" was never offensive until someone decided that it was. Even Tranny Shack was forced to change their name due to the pressure from PC Police. If it's good enough for trannies to use, I'll use it too. You're not the word police.


    OK Fag.
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    I'm not bothered by you calling me a fag. But even if I were, there is a LONG history of abuse from that word, but "tranny" does not have that history. In fact it's what trannies have referred to themselves as for many years. But suddenly they were instructed that they SHOULD be offended by it and so now they are. And you're just another dumb sheeple to be bashed into submission by this crap.
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    The fact remains: you know it is a pejorative and insist on using it.

    That is your right of course.

    But if I was the prosecutor (in the US, this case is being decided by a judge only) I would eliminate you from the jury pool as prejudicial. As a juror you would be considered biased. It would not be a fair trial.