Houston Voters Reject Measure Barring LGBT Discrimination

  • metta

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    Oct 21, 2015 2:35 AM GMT
    Houston Voters Reject Measure Barring LGBT Discrimination

    Opponents of HERO effectively scared voters into thinking it would allow men in women's bathrooms.


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/houston-equal-rights-ordinance_5638de92e4b00a4d2e0bee4e






    A perverted campaign against LGBT rights in Houston


    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2015/10/19/a-perverted-campaign-against-lgbt-rights-in-houston/


    This thread relates to this one:

    Bob McNair: Houston Texans Owner donates $10K to anti-LGBT rights group
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/4127342
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    Oct 21, 2015 3:09 PM GMT
    metta saidA perverted campaign against LGBT rights in Houston


    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2015/10/19/a-perverted-campaign-against-lgbt-rights-in-houston/




    There is nothing "perverted" about this campaign. And there are no lies or deceptions in the ad. I am very much a Progressive and I despise most Republican causes, but this is a valid one.

    This is the kind of shit that makes me reject this LGBTXYZ crap. Fighting for the right of a tranny to use a woman's bathroom under the banner of being gay is sick. It has NOTHING to do with being gay. Aligning ourselves with those who are confused about their gender is hurting us.
  • NealJohn

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    Oct 21, 2015 7:11 PM GMT
    I'm sorry. But as an uncle to three nieces I have to agree that I don't want anybody with a penis inside a restroom with my nieces. Nobody is saying transgender people can't be who they are, but if you have a penis you should use the men's room, as no young girl or any woman for that matter should have to look at a penis when they go into the bathroom.
    I think the LGBT community has landed a major victory in marriage but is pushing too hard with this.
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    Oct 21, 2015 7:35 PM GMT
    Radd saidAligning ourselves with those who are confused about their gender is hurting us.


    While I mostly agree with you on the rest of your (and others') posts here, this comment right here is ridiculous.

    It's basically a rehashed version of "gays choose to be gay/they are just confused".
  • Buddha

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    Oct 21, 2015 8:04 PM GMT
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    Ah, remember when you thought an interracial couple protesting gay marriage was hypocritical?

    Now you can see how minorities can crush other minorities with the same arguments that once oppressed them by just reading these posts.

    I expected this to take a couple of years but it's nice to see that gay people, who pretty recently got and are still getting many of their rights, are so eager to jump on the bandwagon to stop other minorities from getting their civil rights.

    Shepard's blood hasn't even dried out, geez, could you at least wait five years before you forget what intolerance towards minorities result in?
  • FRE0

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    Oct 21, 2015 8:18 PM GMT
    NealJohn saidI'm sorry. But as an uncle to three nieces I have to agree that I don't want anybody with a penis inside a restroom with my nieces. Nobody is saying transgender people can't be who they are, but if you have a penis you should use the men's room, as no young girl or any woman for that matter should have to look at a penis when they go into the bathroom.
    I think the LGBT community has landed a major victory in marriage but is pushing too hard with this.


    Because I don't ordinarily enter women's public conveniences my knowledge of them is quite limited. Of course I know that in men's public conveniences it is often possible to look at another man's penis if one really wants to do so, but I had always assumed that in women's public conveniences women usually sit down to relieve themselves in private stalls with doors. So if a person with a penis entered a women's public convenience and entered a private stall to relieve himself, how could a girl or woman look at that person's penis? I really don't understand. Perhaps someone could explain.
  • metta

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    Oct 21, 2015 8:19 PM GMT
    Transgender people using the bathroom don't affect straight people or children. Most straight people don't even notice when they are using them. It is not like they just started to use restrooms. It is only that bigots found out about it and are angry and fearful because of it and making up stupid stories to justify their irrational fears.

    15 Experts Debunk Right-Wing Transgender Bathroom Myth
    http://mediamatters.org/research/2014/03/20/15-experts-debunk-right-wing-transgender-bathro/198533

    Statistics Show Exactly How Many Times Trans People Have Attacked You in Bathrooms = 0

    http://mic.com/articles/114066/statistics-show-exactly-how-many-times-trans-people-have-attacked-you-in-bathrooms
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    Oct 21, 2015 8:24 PM GMT
    Razvigor said
    Radd saidAligning ourselves with those who are confused about their gender is hurting us.


    While I mostly agree with you on the rest of your (and others') posts here, this comment right here is ridiculous.

    It's basically a rehashed version of "gays choose to be gay/they are just confused".



    I've thought about your statement above but I still stick by my belief that it does indeed hurt us. Gays are simply asking for equal rights which should be a no-brainer. But these people are demanding to invade women's restrooms. If you don't think that can change the way people think about gay people (since we're all under the same banner now) I don't think you've considered how little is needed for people to hate us.
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    Oct 21, 2015 8:28 PM GMT
    metta saidTransgender people using the bathroom don't affect straight people or children. Most straight people don't even notice when they are using them. It is not like they just started to use restrooms. It is only that bigots found out about it and are angry and fearful because of it and making up stupid stories to justify their irrational fears.

    15 Experts Debunk Right-Wing Transgender Bathroom Myth
    http://mediamatters.org/research/2014/03/20/15-experts-debunk-right-wing-transgender-bathro/198533

    Statistics Show Exactly How Many Times Trans People Have Attacked You in Bathrooms = 0

    http://mic.com/articles/114066/statistics-show-exactly-how-many-times-trans-people-have-attacked-you-in-bathrooms



    You're being naive or willfully ignorant....not sure which. We haven't had any major problems (that have made the news) because this has not made law yet. But if it does, you can expect the perverts and child molesters to come out of the woodwork claiming they're (female on the inside) just to get inside and creep on women and young girls in the bathroom.
  • metta

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    Oct 21, 2015 9:00 PM GMT
    I'm thankful that people like Chris Kluwe get it. icon_smile.gif
  • metta

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    Oct 22, 2015 2:09 AM GMT
    Conservative Ad Uses Flushed Toilet As Analogy To LGBTQ People




    http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2015/10/conservative-ad-uses-flushed-toilet-as-analogy-to-lgbtq-people/
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    Oct 22, 2015 2:54 AM GMT
    metta saidConservative Ad Uses Flushed Toilet As Analogy To LGBTQ People



    Metta......now you're just making things up. The toilet in the ad is flushing MONEY down the drain....not people. icon_rolleyes.gif Do you go along with every Liberal cause simply because it falls under the banner of being a Liberal? It's like you can't even use logical reasoning sometimes. Why would you try and spin the intent of this ad?
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    Oct 22, 2015 3:40 AM GMT
    As I use a "Omni_sexed" restroom at work, that has toilets with stall doors, but no urinals, and it really isn't a big deal that men and women walk in at the same time to the same facilities...and close the stall door....And, NO they are not floor to ceiling, so you do see high heels and loafers and sneakers, etc below the door....some people are fine with this and some go to other separate facilities......Its a bathroom, not a multimedia room, strip club or a Library....get in, do your business and get out. Politics of the potty....really? I don't care if I am in the men's rest room, being creeped on by a gay guy, knowing I am gay too...I would not be any too happy....
  • metta

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    Oct 22, 2015 7:08 PM GMT
    Debunking Transphobic Bathroom Panic


  • roadbikeRob

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    Oct 22, 2015 11:10 PM GMT
    This is valid proof that these transgender people need to be separated from the gay, lesbian, and bisexual community. They are pulling down the GLB community in Houston which is a majority conservative big city where most of its democrats are conservative yellow dogs. The image of gay and lesbian Houstonians has been badly damaged in the public eye by these radical trannies and their boorish behavior. These transgender freaks are a serious liability to gays, lesbians, and bisexuals. You extremist liberal hens need to wake up and accept the true fact that these trannies are now the source of most of our problems as a community.
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    Oct 23, 2015 2:08 AM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidThis is valid proof that these transgender people need to be separated from the gay, lesbian, and bisexual community. They are pulling down the GLB community in Houston which is a majority conservative big city where most of its democrats are conservative yellow dogs. The image of gay and lesbian Houstonians has been badly damaged in the public eye by these radical trannies and their boorish behavior. These transgender freaks are a serious liability to gays, lesbians, and bisexuals. You extremist liberal hens need to wake up and accept the true fact that these trannies are now the source of most of our problems as a community.



    Any point you're trying to make cannot be taken seriously as long as you keep calling people "Liberal Hens." What does that even mean anyway? I don't see any barnyard animals here. icon_confused.gif
  • roadbikeRob

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    Oct 23, 2015 3:52 AM GMT
    NealJohn saidI'm sorry. But as an uncle to three nieces I have to agree that I don't want anybody with a penis inside a restroom with my nieces. Nobody is saying transgender people can't be who they are, but if you have a penis you should use the men's room, as no young girl or any woman for that matter should have to look at a penis when they go into the bathroom.
    I think the LGBT community has landed a major victory in marriage but is pushing too hard with this.
    This is the valid reason why it is time to permanently expell the transgenders from the gay, lesbian, and bisexual community. These trannies have no legitimate right under our umbrella. Look at the major problem here with a large chunk of the mainstream getting bitterly angry. Who is the root cause of this problem, the transgender weirdos wanting to force a controversial change in restroom use that is potentially risky from a health and safety viewpoint. The trannies are lethal poison to the integrity of the GLB community. The fairy tale notion that gay men are predators and pedophiles and cross dressers has been reinforced by the radical trannies who refuse to conform to current standards and policies.
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    Oct 23, 2015 4:14 AM GMT
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    Because I don't ordinarily enter women's public conveniences my knowledge of them is quite limited. Of course I know that in men's public conveniences it is often possible to look at another man's penis if one really wants to do so, but I had always assumed that in women's public conveniences women usually sit down to relieve themselves in private stalls with doors. So if a person with a penis entered a women's public convenience and entered a private stall to relieve himself, how could a girl or woman look at that person's penis? I really don't understand. Perhaps someone could explain.

    Actually I once entered into a women's restroom by mistake in the Mall of America in Minnesota by mistake. A horrible flashback I hate to think about. I ran all the way down to the "Raintree Forest" restaurant to hide, thinking the cops were right behind me, to have a martini and calm down. My heart was beating a mile a minute.

    Anyway, I've been in plenty of mens restrooms, at airports and sports stadiums, where women barge into the mens to use them. No one complains or arrests them. But gawd help the man who tries to enter the ladies. So I guess a double standard in effect.

    I've also had to use unisex restrooms. Peeing at an un-partioned urinal, while women were walking right behind me and using the sinks. Male privacy is judged much lower than female privacy in our Western society.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Oct 23, 2015 6:24 PM GMT
    Radd said
    roadbikeRob saidThis is valid proof that these transgender people need to be separated from the gay, lesbian, and bisexual community. They are pulling down the GLB community in Houston which is a majority conservative big city where most of its democrats are conservative yellow dogs. The image of gay and lesbian Houstonians has been badly damaged in the public eye by these radical trannies and their boorish behavior. These transgender freaks are a serious liability to gays, lesbians, and bisexuals. You extremist liberal hens need to wake up and accept the true fact that these trannies are now the source of most of our problems as a community.



    Any point you're trying to make cannot be taken seriously as long as you keep calling people "Liberal Hens." What does that even mean anyway? I don't see any barnyard animals here. icon_confused.gif
    Its "extremist liberal hens" and I don't think it detracts from the validity of my points. It is done to expose these guys on here who are way too liberal for their own good. People like MinneapolisMotorMouth (HottJoe).
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    Oct 23, 2015 6:38 PM GMT
    Razvigor said
    Radd saidAligning ourselves with those who are confused about their gender is hurting us.


    While I mostly agree with you on the rest of your (and others') posts here, this comment right here is ridiculous.

    It's basically a rehashed version of "gays choose to be gay/they are just confused".
    If anything is ridiculous, it is your continued support of keeping these undesirable transgender freaks part of our community. The actions of these gender bending extremists are destroying the overall image of gays, lesbians, and bisexuals. Fuck the transgender crowd, they are way too radical and too abnormal for the gay, lesbian, and bisexual communities. It is time for gays, lesbians, and bisexuals around the world to firmly unite and sever the ball and chain on our ankles known as transgender people and spin them off totally on their own. From here on out it will be known as the GLB community because the T will be removed forever and it cannot happen soon enough. These transgender lunatics have no legitimate right or place in our community.
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    Oct 24, 2015 1:02 AM GMT
    Razvigor said
    Radd saidAligning ourselves with those who are confused about their gender is hurting us.


    While I mostly agree with you on the rest of your (and others') posts here, this comment right here is ridiculous.

    It's basically a rehashed version of "gays choose to be gay/they are just confused".



    Is it really ridiculous or do you want it to be ridiculous? Sometimes it's hard to accept that certain groups are seen differently in our society. But honestly, I think this is just common sense. Even other gay people have a difficult time relating to someone who says they have to cut their dick off to feel normal. I'm sorry but that's just fucking radical as hell. And it has nothing to do with being gay whatsoever.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Oct 24, 2015 3:29 AM GMT
    Transgender = mental illness.
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    Oct 24, 2015 3:44 AM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidTransgender = mental illness.



    I think that's a little harsh. Everyone has both masculine and feminine qualities. Some people just have a lot more of one quality over the other. I will say this though.....I think all these people rushing out to get their dicks cut off are insane. You don't mutilate your body to fit your mind; you grow mentally to accept your body. But, I support their right to alter their bodies if that's what they want to do. But regardless, it has nothing to do with being gay.
  • metta

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    Oct 24, 2015 3:58 AM GMT
    Watch: New TV Ad Absurdly Claims Equal Rights Ordinance Will Hurt Business





    http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/johnwright/new_ad_absurdly_claims_houston_equal_rights_ordinance_would_hurt_business
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    Oct 24, 2015 4:55 PM GMT

    Yeah, I think it's a great idea to have our gay rights tied to stuff like this. icon_rolleyes.gif