Jeb Bush and WW3

  • interestingch...

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    Oct 22, 2015 9:08 PM GMT
    If Jeb Bush got into the presidency that would be the biggest mistake in history in my opinion, he was in charge of security on the twin towers and i'm sure he had a very large hand in the terrorist attacks with the Binladen family whom they are in business partnership with and wanted an excuse to invade Iraq for the oil reserves and rebuilding contracts. If he got into power I think he would kick off world war 3 with Syria and Iran and maybe use Israel as a pawn in the process, I am sure everybody here has heard of false flag attacks. Everyone knows he rigged it for George to become president so he could manipulate from behind the scenes but everybody seems to have a short memory for this stuff and he cannot be trusted. He was the power and brains behind George because lets face it George is not a bright man, it was almost embarrassing watching him speak in public.
    Any thoughts on this topic ?
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    Oct 22, 2015 10:03 PM GMT
    Calm down. You have more chance of becoming president than Jeb does.
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    Oct 22, 2015 10:07 PM GMT
    HappyNomad saidCalm down. You have more chance of becoming president than Jeb does.


    What even though i'm English, ha,
    being serious now, what are peoples general opinion of him in the US ?
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    Oct 22, 2015 10:10 PM GMT
    He's absolutely evil.
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    Oct 22, 2015 10:12 PM GMT
    Trump, who is insane, describes Jeb accurately when he says that Jeb is "low energy and boring". That's pretty much what we all see.

    Trump, who is insane, could however become president. You can worry about him and WW3.
  • interestingch...

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    Oct 22, 2015 10:15 PM GMT
    Radd saidHe's absolutely evil.


    Glad you can see that because I also think that.
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    Oct 22, 2015 10:19 PM GMT
    HappyNomad saidTrump, who is insane, describes Jeb accurately when he says that Jeb is "low energy and boring". That's pretty much what we all see.

    Trump, who is insane, could however become president. You can worry about him and WW3.


    He is a very successful businessman I give you that and probably ruthless with it but I don't think he is evil and he probably has the country's interests at heart and I don't think he would take us all to war. But who knows, people have a way of not doing what you expect but I do think i'm right about Jeb.
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    Oct 22, 2015 10:26 PM GMT
    bush and or trump
    i am voting republican for sure!
  • interestingch...

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    Oct 22, 2015 10:50 PM GMT
    I think Hillary would be ok, no damage was done while Bill was president and the only thing he was remembered for was a blow job under his desk by Monica, so he didn't do a bad job after all compared to George Bush junior and the rest of the family who did lots of damage for the countries international reputation, terrorism is a result of their actions, how many people have died as a result of that family.
    George Bush senior - The gulf war
    George Bush junior - The Iraq war
    Jeb Bush - World war 3 ????????? I think so
  • interestingch...

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    Oct 22, 2015 11:30 PM GMT
    Iraq War
    Iraqi deaths = between 110 and 121,00 people
    wounded = no idea
    Us troop deaths = 4799
    wounded = 32,233
    UK troop deaths = 179
    civilian deaths = 43

    Gulf war
    UK civilian and military deaths = 47
    US troop deaths = 290
    Iraqi deaths = between 150,000 ? don't know for sure
    wounded = probably a lot more than 150,000

    Total = 275000 people died, military and civilian and thats probably a low estimate and I haven't included other European nations or other commonwealth countries casualties or the injured.

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    Oct 23, 2015 3:49 PM GMT
    interestingchap saidIf Jeb Bush got into the presidency that would be the biggest mistake in history in my opinion, he was in charge of security on the twin towers and i'm sure he had a very large hand in the terrorist attacks with the Binladen family whom they are in business partnership with and wanted an excuse to invade Iraq for the oil reserves and rebuilding contracts. If he got into power I think he would kick off world war 3 with Syria and Iran and maybe use Israel as a pawn in the process, I am sure everybody here has heard of false flag attacks. Everyone knows he rigged it for George to become president so he could manipulate from behind the scenes but everybody seems to have a short memory for this stuff and he cannot be trusted. He was the power and brains behind George because lets face it George is not a bright man, it was almost embarrassing watching him speak in public.
    Any thoughts on this topic ?


    Yes, you're as ridiculously wrong on your facts as you are delusional on your theories. And, forgive me for expecting more out of a president than that "no damage" was done on his watch.
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    Oct 23, 2015 4:15 PM GMT
    Politicians are CROOKS , every parties included .
    They are not working to help us , they are working to help themselves .
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    Oct 23, 2015 4:20 PM GMT
    neffa saidPoliticians are CROOKS , every parties included. They are working to help us , they are working to help themselves.


    +1
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    Oct 23, 2015 4:53 PM GMT
    interestingchap said
    HappyNomad saidCalm down. You have more chance of becoming president than Jeb does.


    What even though i'm English, ha,
    being serious now, what are peoples general opinion of him in the US ?


    British, no?

    Unless you want England to become a lone state away from the UK by alienating the Scottish, Welsh and Irish ...
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    Oct 23, 2015 5:34 PM GMT
    HappyNomad saidTrump, who is insane, describes Jeb accurately when he says that Jeb is "low energy and boring". That's pretty much what we all see.

    Trump, who is insane, could however become president. You can worry about him and WW3.


    Trump has been lying his ass off about what he believes in order to pander to gullible and desperate hardline conservatives. It's paying off in spades. We have no idea what he would really be like as president when he lies so freely, but I suppose his mouth has a chance of starting WW3 if he can't repeatedly blame staffers for his words.

    Wacky conspiracy theories aside, Bush is polling about 4th... in Florida. He just cut staff salaries and is downsizing his Miami headquarters to save money. This after the shakeup in June. If his own party doesn't even want him I don't think we have anything to worry about.
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    Oct 23, 2015 6:25 PM GMT
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    HappyNomad saidCalm down. You have more chance of becoming president than Jeb does.

    What even though i'm English, ha,
    being serious now, what are peoples general opinion of him in the US ?

    Polling political opinion in the US has become difficult. Voters have become increasingly polarized, with a kind of "team" mentality. You would probably recognize this in the UK with your football (soccer) allegiances.

    My team is Democratic, your team is Republican. Or vice versa. All the guys on my team are heroes, all the guys on your team are dog s**t.

    Admitting up front that I'm a liberal Democrat, so take this with a grain of salt, the very name Bush carries liabilities with US voters.

    Bush the First was a lackluster President, who gave us the Savings & Loan catastrophe, which cost US taxpayers 500 billion bailout dollars and that Republicans won't even talk about.

    And then led us into an unfinished war which he timidly halted, at the behest of Saudi oil moguls. The success for the operation, before Bush bowed to the Saudis and cowardly called it off, was entirely due to one of our more notable Generals, "Stormin" Norman Schwarzkopf. And due not to Bush himself, who subsequently claimed the credit for a job half-done.

    Well, Bush One failed to be reelected. Bill Clinton managed to put the financial mess Bush left back together. After his 2-term limit Bush the Second took office. With help from his brother Jeb! and a heavily Right-leaning US Supreme Court. It should be remembered that Al Gore actually won the popular vote, more Americans voted for him, but it was the antiquated US Electoral College system that gave Bush the win. And the rigged "hanging chad" ballots in Florida.

    Of course we know what Bush 2 gave us: our longest wars in history, for no reason at all other than neoCon ideology, or should I say fantasy. Along with a failed response to one of our major cities being devastated. And let's not forget 9/11 happened during his watch, while he was ignoring the intelligence warnings of a possible attack with airliners.

    And then, to top if off, the Great Recession. The Right Wing Murdock media empire forbid it being called another Depression, but that's what it really was. From which we're just emerging, in spite of Republican stated efforts to sabotage President Obama in everything he does. Back to the "my team at all costs" mindset.

    So a Bush the Third? I really don't think that family is wanted anymore. Jeb! mucked up Florida as Governor, so I'm not even sure he would carry his own home State. (Wait, I forget, he knows how to rig elections)
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    Oct 23, 2015 6:32 PM GMT
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    interestingchap said
    HappyNomad saidCalm down. You have more chance of becoming president than Jeb does.

    What even though i'm English, ha,
    being serious now, what are peoples general opinion of him in the US ?

    Polling political opinion in the US has become difficult. Voters have become increasingly polarized, with a kind of "team" mentality. You would probably recognize this in the UK with your football (soccer) allegiances.

    My team is Democratic, your team is Republican. Or vice versa. All the guys on my team are heroes, all the guys on your team are dog s**t.

    Admitting up front that I'm a liberal Democrat, so take this with a grain of salt, the very name Bush carries liabilities with US voters.

    Bush the First was a lackluster President, who gave us the Savings & Loan catastrophe, which cost US taxpayers 500 billion bailout dollars and that Republicans won't even talk about.

    And then led us into an unfinished war which he timidly halted, at the behest of Saudi oil moguls. The success for the operation, before Bush bowed to the Saudis and cowardly called it off, was entirely due to one of our more notable Generals, "Stormin" Norman Schwarzkopf. And due not to Bush himself, who subsequently claimed the credit for a job half-done.

    Well, Bush One failed to be reelected. Bill Clinton managed to put the financial mess Bush left back together. After his 2-term limit Bush the Second took office. With help from his brother Jeb! and a heavily Right-leaning US Supreme Court. It should be remembered that Al Gore actually won the popular vote, more Americans voted for him, but it was the antiquated US Electoral College system that gave Bush the win. And the rigged "hanging chad" ballots in Florida.

    Of course we know what Bush 2 gave us: our longest wars in history, for no reason at all other than neoCon ideology, or should I say fantasy. Along with a failed response to one of our major cities being devastated.

    And then, to top if off, the Great Recession. The Right Wing Murdock media empire forbid it being called another Depression, but that's what it really was. From which we're just emerging, in spite of Republican stated efforts to sabotage President Obama in everything he does. Back to the "my team at all costs" mindset.

    So a Bush the Third? I really don't think that family is wanted anymore. Jeb! mucked up Florida as Governor, so I'm not even sure he would carry his own home State. (Wait, I forget, he knows how to rig elections)


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeb_Bush


    "In 1994, Bush made his first run for office, losing the election for governor by less than two percentage points to the incumbent Lawton Chiles. Bush ran again in 1998 and defeated Lieutenant Governor Buddy MacKay with 55 percent of the vote. He ran for reelection in 2002 and won with 56 percent to become Florida's first two-term Republican governor.[2] During his eight years as governor, Bush was credited with initiating environmental improvements, such as conservation in the Everglades, supporting caps for medical malpractice litigation, moving Medicaid recipients to private systems, and instituting reforms to the state education system, including the issuance of vouchers and promoting school choice."

    " Bush defeated McBride 56% to 43%, a greater margin of victory than in 1998.

    Bush won 44 percent of the state's Jewish vote in the 2002 race.[84] Bush also won the white female vote in the swing-voting battleground of Central Florida's I-4 corridor.[85] However, he was not able to replicate the same success with African American voters (like he had earlier in 199icon_cool.gif, winning only 8 percent of the African American vote. He became the first Republican governor of Florida to win re-election.[2]"
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    Oct 23, 2015 7:01 PM GMT
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    Bush was credited with initiating environmental improvements, such as conservation in the Everglades, supporting caps for medical malpractice litigation, moving Medicaid recipients to private systems, and instituting reforms to the state education system, including the issuance of vouchers and promoting school choice."

    Problem is, here in Florida Bush's legacy is starting to falter.

    His school voucher program is falling apart, ridiculed with corruption & cronyism. And these private schools, in addition to being a financial drain on the established public school system, are little more than indoctrination camps for religious, right-wing conservatives. Surprise!

    Florida's current Republican Governor and Republican legislature are trying to keep the charter program afloat, but the school voucher scandals keep coming monthly.

    Oh, and our Republican Governor Scott has also undone any environmental acts that Jeb! instituted, and the Everglades are again endangered by developers. And Scott has also forbidden any mention, discussion, or planning regarding global warming by State officials.

    According to Scott's Republican ideology that situation doesn't even exist, and can't be admitted. Meanwhile, Fort Lauderdale and other beach communities are having to scramble with local funds to rebuild lost beaches, shore-up against unprecedented high waters and street flooding, and also pretend there's no such thing as global warming and rising oceans.

    So I guess that environmental part of the Jeb! legacy in Florida, insignificant as it was, is also fading. I haven't heard him objecting to anything that Governor Scott has done, so I guess he's fine with it.
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    Oct 23, 2015 7:06 PM GMT
    HappyNomad saidTrump, who is insane, describes Jeb accurately when he says that Jeb is "low energy and boring". That's pretty much what we all see.

    Trump, who is insane, could however become president. You can worry about him and WW3.
    Trump is definitely not insane, he is a loud mouthed blowhard but much of the time he knows what he is talking about. If anyone is insane it is that corrupt, power hungry, lamp throwing whore Hillary Clinton the hapless ho. That foul mouthed bitch will start World War Three and get the US blown off the Earth's surface.
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    Art_Deco said
    freedomisntfree said
    Bush was credited with initiating environmental improvements, such as conservation in the Everglades, supporting caps for medical malpractice litigation, moving Medicaid recipients to private systems, and instituting reforms to the state education system, including the issuance of vouchers and promoting school choice."

    Problem is, here in Florida Bush's legacy is starting to falter.

    His school voucher program is falling apart, ridiculed with corruption & cronyism. And these private schools, in addition to being a financial drain on the established public school system, are little more than indoctrination camps for religious, right-wing conservatives. Surprise!

    Florida's current Republican Governor and Republican legislature are trying to keep the charter program afloat, but the school voucher scandals keep coming monthly.

    Oh, and our Republican Governor Scott has also undone any environmental acts that Jeb! instituted, and the Everglades are again endangered by developers. And Scott has also forbidden any mention, discussion, or planning regarding global warming by State officials.

    According to Scott's Republican ideology that situation doesn't even exist, and can't be admitted. Meanwhile, Fort Lauderdale and other beach communities are having to scramble with local funds to rebuild lost beaches, shore-up against unprecedented high waters and street flooding, and also pretend there's no such thing as global warming and rising oceans.

    So I guess that environmental part of the Jeb! legacy in Florida, insignificant as it was, is also fading. I haven't heard him objecting to anything that Governor Scott has done, so I guess he's fine with it.


    TL/DR, but I can guess

    "Jeb Bush was the first Republican to win a second term as Florida's governor, and he left office with a 60% approval rating"
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    Oct 23, 2015 8:20 PM GMT
    ^^^^^^ Sorry, phone, text and email were going nuts when I replied. A reminder I guess that I'm still working. I'll read the above tonight.
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    Oct 23, 2015 10:47 PM GMT
    I thought his name was "Jeb !"

    He apparently dropped the "Bush".

    > OP:
    And "Everyone" does not "know" what you think they do. Bush 43 was elected president by a vote of the conservatives on the Supreme Court - with the help of Jim Baker and his crew. Jeb contributed little to the outcome.
  • Antarktis

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    Oct 24, 2015 12:54 PM GMT
    Jeb is sexy... The kind of guy you want to have a sordid affair with. That weak triple chin, those pinquent eyes.. Just makes you want to lick strawberry syrup off his heiney.
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    Oct 24, 2015 5:19 PM GMT
    Antarktis saidJeb is sexy... The kind of guy you want to have a sordid affair with. That weak triple chin, those pinquent eyes.. Just makes you want to lick strawberry syrup off his heiney.


    Wow!

    Without chemical assistance? Straight?

    He doesn't remotely resemble any of the guys on your hotlist - except maybe ArtDeco.
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    Oct 24, 2015 5:23 PM GMT
    HikerSkier said
    Antarktis saidJeb is sexy... The kind of guy you want to have a sordid affair with. That weak triple chin, those pinquent eyes.. Just makes you want to lick strawberry syrup off his heiney.


    Wow!

    Without chemical assistance? Straight?

    He doesn't remotely resemble any of the guys on your hotlist - except maybe ArtDeco.


    Jeb and Art_Deco in kilts stalking semi-naked bartenders in Key West isn't all that far fetched icon_lol.gif