Scientists Found Where God Is In The Brain

  • metta

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    Oct 24, 2015 5:20 AM GMT


    http://www.maker.tv/video/5UnIx2MwcLf9
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    Is an atheist's brain the same as a believer's? New research says religious and non-religious minds work differently



    http://blog.al.com/wire/2014/01/religious_brains_function_diff.html
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    Oct 24, 2015 7:01 AM GMT
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    Oct 24, 2015 2:36 PM GMT
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    This sounds like that "god spot" thing found back in the 00s.

    http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/searching-for-god-in-the-brain/
    Searching for God in the Brain

    Researchers are unearthing the roots of religious feeling in the neural commotion that accompanies the spiritual epiphanies of nuns, Buddhists and other people of faith


    http://www.scientificamerican.com/podcast/episode/where-is-god-09-03-11/
    Where Is God?

    Research published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences USA provides support to the critics of the idea that a God spot exists in the brain
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    Oct 24, 2015 2:50 PM GMT
    So are religious people allowed to claim that they are "born this way?"
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    Oct 24, 2015 2:54 PM GMT
    Art_Deco saidI can't get it to play. icon_sad.gif


    Possibly try a different browser.
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    Oct 24, 2015 9:35 PM GMT
    Well it certainly poses some interesting theological and evolutionary questions. If there truly is a "God center" in the brain, and most humans have it (i.e. more people believe in some form of God than not), an evolutionary biologist would be forced to say believing in God is an evolutionary advantage. An "Intelligent Design" advocate would say it was put there by God as part of the plan. And an atheist would say it's proof that the only God is what's in your head.
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    bro4bro saidWell it certainly poses some interesting theological and evolutionary questions. If there truly is a "God center" in the brain, and most humans have it (i.e. more people believe in some form of God than not), an evolutionary biologist would be forced to say believing in God is an evolutionary advantage. An "Intelligent Design" advocate would say it was put there by God as part of the plan. And an atheist would say it's proof that the only God is what's in your head.


    ...much like underarm hair.

    or

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutral_mutation
    Charles Darwin commented on the idea of neutral mutation in his work, hypothesizing that mutations that do not give an advantage or disadvantage may fluctuate or become fixed apart from natural selection. "Variations neither useful nor injurious would not be affected by natural selection, and would be left either a fluctuating element, as perhaps we see in certain polymorphic species, or would ultimately become fixed, owing to the nature of the organism and the nature of the conditions." While Darwin is widely credited with introducing the idea of natural selection which was the focus of his studies, he also saw the possibility for changes that did not benefit or hurt an organism.



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    Oct 25, 2015 1:50 AM GMT
    You can't just dismiss every human trait you don't like as being a useless evolutionary quirk.

    Belief in God or some similar supernatural power is a strikingly widespread feature of the human race. You could easily argue that a set of common religious beliefs, right or wrong, was what first bound people together into a civilized society.

    And what if a belief in God does turn out to be an evolutionary advantage? That doesn't mean it's any likelier that a God exists (although the Intelligent Design people would say so). Maybe it just means you're more likely to survive to breeding age if you live your life like Big Brother is looking over your shoulder.
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    Oct 25, 2015 2:16 AM GMT

    HUGE difference between organized religion (belief in something you are told by those in power) and actual spirituality (unlocking your own knowledge and power that everyone already has but has been kept secret)

    The "frontal lobe cortex" (also known as third eye) is where you will "find god", once you unlock it. This is the secret, organized religion has kept for ages. These "scientists" who have just discovered part of the brain having to do with peoples beliefs system has been around since ancient times, this is not new, only to people who "haven't awakened" yet.

    Maybe this "new discovery" will get people inching closer to unlocking their own third eye which may take another 50 years before everyone is relativity "dis-connected from the Matrix", also known as the fall of organized religion






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    Oct 25, 2015 4:54 AM GMT
    If I recall, at least one of the ladies in the vid identified herself as atheist and wasn't she the one who brought up that the so-called "god spot" (I don't think they used that phrase) locates in an area of the brain wherein is also found problem solving. And wasn't her example of problem solving either something about mourning or in coming to terms with one's own mortality? That thinking in terms of spirituality could solve a problem of bringing resolution to quandaries or simply queries of the mind, not that there was implication of divine intervention at work on its own or through the god spot to solve world events.

    I think that's how they conveyed the notion of problem solving but certainly you could take that further, play that in any number of directions.

    Kabbalah which I've studied has quite a few parallels to esoteric Buddhism including recognition that man can not know the mind of God. Similarly, in, say Dzogchen, which is my current study, we neither presume so-called Nirvana as particularly fathomable nor especially what thinking might be beyond that. Unlike heaven, Nirvana is not a destination, but a way point. So while you might be able to know the mind of the Buddha because you are the Buddha, or at least you've that potential, even the Buddha would not be presumed to be as conceived now once beyond Nirvana. The entirety of thinking might at that point shift such that we might not recognize it as we find ourselves today, even if we found ourselves to be Buddha today.

    Just as in science and science fiction, to consider how vast is our mind over an insect as that Nova guy was saying in a vid I or someone posted somewhere. That we might be able to find our way to the moon, to Mars, some space creature might consider our abilities of mathematics nothing more than a flavoring of food. Here, try this one, it has a amusing hint of elementary quantum physics. Such that we couldn't possibly comprehend an intelligence greater than our own, never mind that we'd ever know omniscience.

    The other aspect of Kabbalah making God unknowable is in the nature of creation itself whereby were God to, in those Hebrew terms, allow the entirety of his light to be seen, to exist in the world, it would so encompass, so overwhelm everything that nothing else but the light itself would exist. And so God comes down in a sliver of light through the darkenss, so that the vision does not obliterate the observer.

    Back to evolution. I was just playing with the notion of a stance being absolutely forced when I didn't think it was and so of course I'd also not dismiss every trait.

    I'd think the first bindings of society were more basic needs of food shelter propagation, but I can put a quick twist on the notion of how so many of the species wound up with it: was it advantageous to evolution or had superstitions before much knowledge was out there create a controllable population such that all the priests had to do was to sacrifice the non believers, the blasphemers, leaving a population of the god spotted.

    There by was it something that freed us to explore or whatever would have been to our advantage evolutionarily, or was it something that imprisoned us by earlier structures of culture such that it might have been to someone's advantage, just not in a way evolution might have intended.

    For further on that, don't forget to pick up a copy of my new book, Conspirators of Evolution, at your neighborhood bookstore/coffee shop now.
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    Oct 25, 2015 12:13 PM GMT
    I always suspected that God is a brain tumor. How do I get rid of it? Surgery, chemotherapy, medication?
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    Oct 25, 2015 4:06 PM GMT
    A clear case of deus ex medulla.
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    Oct 25, 2015 8:35 PM GMT
    Scientists find what God wants them to find.

    I know. Hard to believe.
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    Oct 25, 2015 8:36 PM GMT
    CLTMike46 saidI always suspected that God is a brain tumor. How do I get rid of it? Surgery, chemotherapy, medication?


    exorcism might work
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    Oct 26, 2015 2:13 AM GMT
    bro4bro saidWell it certainly poses some interesting theological and evolutionary questions. If there truly is a "God center" in the brain, and most humans have it (i.e. more people believe in some form of God than not), an evolutionary biologist would be forced to say believing in God is an evolutionary advantage. An "Intelligent Design" advocate would say it was put there by God as part of the plan. And an atheist would say it's proof that the only God is what's in your head.


    Actually, quite the opposite. As we evolve, more and more people are NOT religious, so that is the evolutionary advantage.
  • Wendigo9

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    Oct 26, 2015 2:54 AM GMT
    A god brain? LMFAO XD that's just the laugh I needed today, thank you, LRH XD

    -laughing really hard
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    Oct 26, 2015 4:33 AM GMT
    Wendigo9 saidA god brain? LMFAO XD that's just the laugh I needed today, thank you, LRH XD

    -laughing really hard


    right? reminds me of Leto in the Dune books (a big worm on drugs icon_lol.gif )
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    Oct 26, 2015 5:38 PM GMT
    "Scientists Found Where God Is In The Brain"

    The idea that form-based beings can identify God is so laughable.

    An author writes a book, complete with an assortment of interacting, colorful characters. The life of those characters *IS* the author and they ALL exist within the mind of the author. UNLESS the author deliberately writes in a character that exists as his/her avatar, there is NO CHANCE that any character can know the author.
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    Oct 26, 2015 5:58 PM GMT
    Spiritualism I suspect is different to believing in God and also different to believing in the bible, its how we perceive things and a very personal inner thinking, with me, I can't really explain what I think but I do think we have certain things within our lives we have to learn and thats why we are here, also we are here to help each other in whatever way we can.
    Respect ourselves and each other and be kind and caring, if you live like this then you won't go too wrong in life.
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    Oct 26, 2015 6:49 PM GMT
    This clearly implies that brain biochemistry is consciousness, or what people call "God". If consciousness was a part of the soul or spirit as many people believe, then taking psychadelics for example would have no effect on your consciousness, but it clearly does. It raises people's consciousness at that. Take shrooms, see God- that kind of thing.

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    BP201 saidThis clearly implies that brain biochemistry is consciousness, or what people call "God". If consciousness was a part of the soul or spirit as many people believe, then taking psychadelics for example would have no effect on your consciousness, but it clearly does. It raises people's consciousness at that. Take shrooms, see God- that kind of thing.


    I've experimented directly with consciousness specifically in that regard. I've repeatedly found that, as most know, while being awake in a body which is awake, consciousness is affected by the physical body and its condition. But you can awaken consciousness while keeping the body asleep and then the game changes.

    A lucid dreamer, I've purposely awakened consciousness after my body had alcoholic drinks. Outside of a loss of confidence required of good dreaming because, of course, I knew I had some drinks, I noticed particularly--and I did this a few times to check myself--that my consciousness was no longer drunk as I had been before putting my body to sleep.

    Body drunk. Put body to sleep. Awaken consciousness. Consciousness is sober while body is still drunk.

    "Dreaming is perception unconstrained by sensory input. Perception is dreaming constrained by sensory input."~~Stephen LaBerge