Bacon and other processed meats cause cancer, claims WHO report

  • metta

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    Oct 25, 2015 2:32 PM GMT
    Bacon and other processed meats cause cancer, claims WHO report


    http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/who-to-declare-that-bacon-and-other-processed-meat-cause-cancer-claims-report-a6705176.html
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    Oct 25, 2015 3:46 PM GMT
    A curious group of commenters in this Independent publication, which reported the pending WHO recommendation. WHO addresses red & processed meats, saying little or nothing about fish or poultry as far as I could see, and these readers launch into a protracted anti-vegan tirade. And then some throw in slams at the Global Warming "conspiracy" for good measure.

    Health issues stemming from eating red meat, and particularly processed meats, have long been known. This in itself is not news. What is new, however, is the seriousness with which WHO is now treating this issue, practically raising it to the level of a health crisis.

    And that's something I can't competently evaluate. I've been eating very little red meat in recent years, anyway, for the personal reason that I'm increasingly having trouble digesting it well. Similar with dairy products, due to a growing lactose intolerance.

    Fish and poultry are still OK for me, but then I read certain fish are high in mercury, and many are farm-grown with less nutritional value and contain other contaminants. Chickens & turkeys grown under virtually factory conditions have problems, too.

    According to a report I saw, our fruits & vegetables in the US today contain only a fraction of the nutritional value they did 50 years ago. The decline allegedly being caused by modern US farming techniques and hybridization to promote rapid growth. And the level of chemical fertilizers and pesticides they contain is claimed to represent direct health threats.

    So I begin to wonder what one CAN safely eat these days? And again, I'm not in a position to know for certain who to believe with these sometimes scary claims and who to disregard. Very confusing.
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    Oct 25, 2015 4:21 PM GMT
    Art_Deco saidA curious group of commenters in this Independent publication, which reported the pending WHO recommendation. WHO addresses red & processed meats, saying little or nothing about fish or poultry as far as I could see, and these readers launch into a protracted anti-vegan tirade. And then some throw in slams at the Global Warming "conspiracy" for good measure.

    Health issues stemming from eating red meat, and particularly processed meats, have long been known. This in itself is not news. What is new, however, is the seriousness with which WHO is now treating this issue, practically raising it to the level of a health crisis.

    And that's something I can't competently evaluate. I've been eating very little red meat in recent years, anyway, for the personal reason that I'm increasingly having trouble digesting it well. Similar with dairy products, due to a growing lactose intolerance.

    Fish and poultry are still OK for me, but then I read certain fish are high in mercury, and many are farm-grown with less nutritional value and contain other contaminants. Chickens & turkeys grown under virtually factory conditions have problems, too.

    According to a report I saw, our fruits & vegetables in the US today contain only a fraction of the nutritional value they did 50 years ago. The decline allegedly being caused by modern US farming techniques and hybridization to promote rapid growth. And the level of chemical fertilizers and pesticides they contain is claimed to represent direct health threats.

    So I begin to wonder what one CAN safely eat these days? And again, I'm not in a position to know for certain who to believe with these sometimes scary claims and who to disregard. Very confusing.


    Nothing !!!! That's our new diet leading to being a 105 pound wafe. I rarely eat red mean, but do fresh fish almost daily. I got to get protein from something, and yes, I do beans (can you hear me?) and nuts for more protein and I'm probably still protein deficient.
  • tj85016

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    Oct 25, 2015 7:10 PM GMT
    haven't we known this since around 1977 with the big nitrate scare?

    now, nobody cares

    no wonder cancer rates are up about 500% since World War 2
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    Oct 27, 2015 1:23 AM GMT
    I knew this years ago!!

    Shame so many have had to die over eating to much red meat.....maybe the powers that be wanted the deaths. I think the food pyramid is designed to KILL!

    Thus, I believe nothing the US gove has to say, offer.
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    Oct 27, 2015 2:35 AM GMT
    This is news? icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Oct 27, 2015 3:51 AM GMT
    I hate processed meat… Rarely do i eat ham, bacon, salami's, pepperoni's… yuk.. Well, i do like a nice big salami, icon_cool.gif and sometimes turkey sausage on a sunday… I try to buy all natural ones, but I'm sure they are loaded with crap. For that, i can turn the other cheek… lol
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    Oct 27, 2015 5:49 AM GMT
    whatever, its a trap! (to lower prices, hope it works) icon_rolleyes.gificon_wink.gif


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    Oct 27, 2015 5:56 AM GMT

    going out of business, sale icon_rolleyes.gificon_redface.gif


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  • venue35

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    Oct 27, 2015 11:15 AM GMT
    Im glad i dont own a hot dog stand
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    Oct 27, 2015 10:10 PM GMT
    Stopped eating bacon, other processed meat many years ago. Can't even remember the last time I had any of it.

    Haven't had a hamburger. . . in an awfully long time. 2-3 years, maybe.

    Also now go 2-3 days during the week without any meat at all. Don't miss it. Substitute Uncle Sam cereal with almond milk (12 g protein), whole wheat bread high in protein (2 slices, 14 g), a healthy peanut butter, like Smuckers Natural (6 g, I think), beans (7 or so g), mix of almonds, cashews, walnuts, etc (7 or so g) and high-protein yogurt (Siggi's), with 15 grams of protein. (The plain kind has only 4 g of sugar.) Get a gram or two here and there from veggies, and you've hit about 65 grams for the day, which isn't bad.

    I do eat fish (salmon, particularly) a couple times a week. Always ask if it's wild salmon.



  • HndsmKansan

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    Oct 27, 2015 10:20 PM GMT
    LittleDudeWithMuscles saidStopped eating bacon, other processed meat many years ago. Can't even remember the last time I had any of it.

    Haven't had a hamburger. . . in an awfully long time. 2-3 years, maybe.

    Also now go 2-3 days during the week without any meat at all. Don't miss it. Substitute Uncle Sam cereal with almond milk (12 g protein), whole wheat bread high in protein (2 slices, 14 g), a healthy peanut butter, like Smuckers Natural (6 g, I think), beans (7 or so g), mix of almonds, cashews, walnuts, etc (7 or so g) and high-protein yogurt (Siggi's), with 15 grams of protein. (The plain kind has only 4 g of sugar.) Get a gram or two here and there from veggies, and you've hit about 65 grams for the day, which isn't bad.

    I do eat fish (salmon, particularly) a couple times a week. Always ask if it's wild salmon.





    Sounds like some awesome choices, part of reason you look great.... and I second that, I don't each much that way myself. I heard this report and even talked about it over lunch today with one of my guests on my weekly fitness show.
  • interestingch...

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    Oct 27, 2015 10:50 PM GMT
    I expect its not actually the meat that causes this but rather the way its cooked, frying bacon, sausages etc in fat or vegetable oil isn't the best way to cook, you are better off baking them in the oven or grilling, personally I only use olive oil and coconut oil in my cooking, much more healthy.
    This will screw the farmers over yet again, they are already struggling to make a living,
    Everything is ok in moderation
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    Oct 27, 2015 10:54 PM GMT
    interestingchap saidI expect its not actually the meat that causes this but rather the way its cooked, frying bacon, sausages etc in fat or vegetable oil isn't the best way to cook, you are better off baking them in the oven or grilling, personally I only use olive oil and coconut oil in my cooking, much more healthy.
    This will screw the farmers over yet again, they are already struggling to make a living,
    Everything is ok in moderation




    Would you care for a spot of Hemlock in your tea sir? icon_twisted.gif

    I'm sorry, but my guess is that eating raw bacon would be just as bad. We are not meant to eat so many animal products. Our lack of canine teeth, brittle nails, fragile skin and incredibly long intestines should all be red flags to us, but people will always make excuses to eat food we're not designed to eat simply because it tastes good. I love cotton candy, but I'm not going to delude myself into thinking it's good for me.
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    Oct 28, 2015 3:21 AM GMT

    But they still sell this crap by the gallons, I will still take my protein filled meat (now price dropping like a rock) over these high calorie, addictive beverages any day icon_rolleyes.gif

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