Cop fights student at Spring Valley high School

  • NyRuinz

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    Oct 27, 2015 12:57 AM GMT
    Wow, was all of that necessary icon_eek.gif

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    Oct 27, 2015 12:59 AM GMT
    learn to post things in the right section nincompoop
  • HndsmKansan

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    Oct 27, 2015 12:39 PM GMT
    She needed to leave the classroom, but slamming the shit out of the student, desk and the vicinity while shocking the whole damn class wasn't the best outcome
    you can hope for. I would think they would train for things like this.
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    Oct 27, 2015 1:00 PM GMT
    He should has just tasered her but probably didn't have one.

    I witnessed the short, vile tempered nun who was principal of my Catholic School do the same exact thing to a kid twice her size. No one whined about the little trouble making brats rights. His parents lodged no complaints, in fact his mother was a teacher at the school. The students were glad his disruptive ass was removed from the classroom.

    My parents would have treated me worse than what that office did if I did not obey a teacher or officer's reasonable demand. Today you have parents crying the oh my little darling would never do that. She's a good girl. Blah. Blah. Blah. Wah. Wah. Waaaaaaah. And that's the problem. Also, I'm sure the girl and her mom will seek monetary damages. I have a friend who teaches in an inner city school and she has fifth graders remind her everyday that "dey momma's gonna sue" her.
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    Oct 27, 2015 1:07 PM GMT
    NyRuinz saidWow, was all of that necessary icon_eek.gif

    Actually neither we, nor anyone else in the public can know from the information available if the student's forcible removal was necessary. According to reports, school security personnel ordered her to leave the classroom for some actions of hers (not stated), and she refused. The police officer was called and asked her to leave, and she refused. He ordered her to leave, and told her she was under arrest. She refused to cooperate.

    So if a police officer is arresting someone who refuses to go peacefully, what alternative is there, other than forcefully arresting them? Taser? Far better that someone be grabbed (who is even still resisting) than a taser be used.

    There will be an investigation, and eventually more information will be available.

    People who resist arrest should just be allowed to remain where they are, without being arrested?

    Whether she should have been arrested in the first place is an altogether different question - and the public has no information on which to know if an arrest was legal or not.
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    Oct 27, 2015 1:12 PM GMT
    HndsmKansan said I would think they would train for things like this.


    Just what kind of "training" do you suggest? It would have appeared a lot less forceful if there were 4 police officers - one to grab each arm and leg so the perpetrator can't struggle - but that would be an awfully expensive use of police resources.
  • venue35

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    Oct 27, 2015 1:21 PM GMT
    Can't believe some of the replies here.
    American police officials are totally out of control deny it all you want it's all over the news every day a new incident of "unnecessary force" by your friendly policeman
    Police officers Stateside need to chill the fuck down.
    They could have lifted her desk and placed her outside not throw her around like a frickin' rag doll.
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    Oct 27, 2015 1:23 PM GMT
    venue35 saidCan't believe some of the replies here.
    American police officials are totally out of control deny it all you want it's all over the news every day a new incident of "unnecessary force" by your friendly policeman
    Police officers Stateside need to chill the fuck down.
    They could have lifted her desk and placed her outside not throw her around like a frickin' rag doll.


    They? There was only one officer. It could have ended better if SHE just cooperated. SHE freely chose to escalate the situation.
  • venue35

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    Oct 27, 2015 1:39 PM GMT
    If i was the teacher i would have picked her desk up with the officer and placed her in the hall.
    You say she escalated the situation. She didnt get violent
    she refused to leave the classroom.
    If the officer was doing his job like you say then why has he been fired and banned from every school?? Lol
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    Oct 27, 2015 1:47 PM GMT
    From what if read he is on leave until an investigation is completed. Nothing was said about fired.

    BTW, one does not need to get violent to escalate a situation. She escalated the situation by not complying with a reasonable request to hand over her phone - first by the teacher, secondly by the officer.
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    Oct 27, 2015 1:56 PM GMT
    venue35 saidCan't believe some of the replies here.
    American police officials are totally out of control deny it all you want it's all over the news every day a new incident of "unnecessary force" by your friendly policeman
    Police officers Stateside need to chill the fuck down.
    They could have lifted her desk and placed her outside not throw her around like a frickin' rag doll.


    +1 Police officers these days are duds. They don't know what the fuck they are doing, and most of the time they get away with stupid shit.

    Like this video of a LA cop killing a homeless man. A HOMELESS man. Why the fuck do you need to point your stupid gun at a homeless man.

  • venue35

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    Oct 27, 2015 1:57 PM GMT
    He's been banned from the school campus.
    Well if you think she was being a brat and deserved an "ass whoopin" i'll agree to disagree.
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    Oct 27, 2015 2:00 PM GMT
    Puppenjunge said
    HndsmKansan said I would think they would train for things like this.


    Just what kind of "training" do you suggest? It would have appeared a lot less forceful if there were 4 police officers - one to grab each arm and leg so the perpetrator can't struggle - but that would be an awfully expensive use of police resources.


    No, he should have approached her with a bouquet of roses and spoke soft and gentle words cajoling her out of the desk and then escorted her out to an awaiting limo to whisk her off to an all expense paid trip to beautiful Puerta Vallarta where here every whim and desire would be attended to by her own personal waitstaff. All because she's a model student and citizen.
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    Oct 27, 2015 2:15 PM GMT
    It's always in the Confederate states icon_lol.gif

    Oh look, our resident racists are here, no surprise! Resist arrest, get slammed around school furniture. Or get a bouquet of roses. There is no other appropriate response.
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    Oct 27, 2015 2:15 PM GMT
    venue35 saidHe's been banned from the school campus.
    Well if you think she was being a brat and deserved an "ass whoopin" i'll agree to disagree.


    That's exactly what I think. Sadly, her parents should have been the ones to give her an "ass whoopin'" (your words, not mine). Maybe if they did install some discipline and respect for authority, this would never had happened in the first place.
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    Oct 27, 2015 2:18 PM GMT
    crazycrazydoesdoes saidIt's always in the Confederate states icon_lol.gif

    Oh look, our resident racists are here, no surprise! Resist arrest, get slammed around school furniture. Or get a bouquet of roses. There is no other appropriate response.


    What would have been your response if you were handling the situation?
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    Oct 27, 2015 2:28 PM GMT
    I will go ahead and say that there is no warm place in my heart for cops but, there were several things I noticed in the video. If anyone bothers to pay even the slightest attention to the other students there was barely any surprise or reaction to the situation if any at all. I guess it must be a very regular occurrence somewhere like this. Kind of sad. Parents are teaching their children the family business so early these days. >=D

    If she gets out of this I bet the other students will just hold her up on a pedestal and make her think what she did was bad ass or something. blah.
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    Oct 27, 2015 3:08 PM GMT
    Puppenjunge said
    HndsmKansan said I would think they would train for things like this.


    Just what kind of "training" do you suggest? It would have appeared a lot less forceful if there were 4 police officers - one to grab each arm and leg so the perpetrator can't struggle - but that would be an awfully expensive use of police resources.


    That is precisely what should have been considered... cart the girl out, desk included and it would have been expensive, but think about what this incident is "costing" the district in turmoil... probably a wise investment.
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    Oct 27, 2015 3:19 PM GMT
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    Yeah, I'd call tossing a student around like a plastic bag in the wind excessive.
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    Oct 27, 2015 3:37 PM GMT
    From the totality of what little information is available - the least of which is provided in the video itself - this looks like a valid police action to me. The force used was commensurate with the problem presented: a teenaged brat who was disrupting the learning environment and refused to obey orders to leave, first from school officials and then from the cop. There was no beating, just forcible removal, that was apparently met by no small degree of forcible resistance from the student. In short, she got what she deserved, and I hope she's prosecuted so that justice may be complete in the matter, and so she will serve as an example to any classmates who might be thinking of imitating her disruptive behavior.
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    Oct 27, 2015 3:39 PM GMT
    Kosmo123 saidI will go ahead and say that there is no warm place in my heart for cops but, there were several things I noticed in the video. If anyone bothers to pay even the slightest attention to the other students there was barely any surprise or reaction to the situation if any at all. I guess it must be a very regular occurrence somewhere like this. Kind of sad. Parents are teaching their children the family business so early these days. >=D

    If she gets out of this I bet the other students will just hold her up on a pedestal and make her think what she did was bad ass or something. blah.


    An equally rational inference would be that her fellow students were glad to see her go. If she were the heroine supposed, surely some would have rallied to her defense, if only verbally.
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    Oct 27, 2015 3:39 PM GMT
    Disrespectful teenagers can be pretty shitty. I'm not surprised that the girl went out of her way to be defiant and I don't particularly feel sorry for her either.

    I still believe the Officer overreacted by stooping down to her level but who wins in the end? She gets expelled from school, but now he's subject to an investigation with his career and reputation on the line. I don't think a little girl is worth the FBI breathing down my ass.

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    Oct 27, 2015 4:24 PM GMT
    venue35 said
    American police officials are totally out of control deny it all you want


    Maybe you were on vacation, and totally missed the newsreels of Greek forces dealing with "protesters" in the last year.
  • Chainers

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    Oct 27, 2015 4:45 PM GMT
    For all these people attacking the police officer, I really wonder what you would have done in this situation.

    She was asked to leave 4 or 5 times, then resisted arrest. He should ask again, maybe with a please at the end?

    This is what is wrong with society. If she was white, everyone would have attacked the kid for being a spoiled brat. Instead everyone rushes to her aid because of RACISM!
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    Oct 27, 2015 5:00 PM GMT
    Chainers saidFor all these people attacking the police officer, I really wonder what you would have done in this situation.

    She was asked to leave 4 or 5 times, then resisted arrest. He should ask again, maybe with a please at the end?

    This is what is wrong with society. If she was white, everyone would have attacked the kid for being a spoiled brat. Instead everyone rushes to her aid because of RACISM!


    Psychological warfare. Turn the parents against their kid by requesting that they come to the school and pick them up immediately. The parent will be pissed(especially if they have to take off work) and they'll handle the physical confrontation if the embarrassment alone doesn't get the kid to move.

    I rather be seen as an asshole for causing emotional turmoil than being investigated by the FBI for using excessive force.