Herpes screening tests

  • Kromethius

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    Oct 31, 2015 7:04 AM GMT
    I've been having some heavy thoughts on this subject. I notice that in my state they don't offer a herpes screening tests that is included with the standard hiv, chlamydia, gonorrhea, and syphilis tests. When you guys test are you testing for everything including herpes or just the standard 4? Guys Always say that they are clean but if clinics aren't enforcing a herpes blood tests and only suggest that if someone is symptomatic then have we done something wrong and should have tested with herpes to begin with?
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    Oct 31, 2015 3:19 PM GMT
    I would think that if the State of TX didn't offer the complete battery of tests, a university hospital or local healthcare agency would. You may have to do some digging, but I think you'll be able to find what you want, even if a nominal payment is involved. If you're a Vet, I'm pretty sure the VA hospitals/clinics offer all the tests. Thanks for your personal responsibility on this issue!
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    Oct 31, 2015 4:03 PM GMT
    Two old men sitting around talking at the nursing home:
    "You have herpes?"
    "No, this is my own hair. You have a hairpiece?"
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    Oct 31, 2015 4:06 PM GMT
    Kromethius saidI've been having some heavy thoughts on this subject. I notice that in my state they don't offer a herpes screening tests that is included with the standard hiv, chlamydia, gonorrhea, and syphilis tests. When you guys test are you testing for everything including herpes or just the standard 4? Guys Always say that they are clean but if clinics aren't enforcing a herpes blood tests and only suggest that if someone is symptomatic then have we done something wrong and should have tested with herpes to begin with?


    That's because the blood exam involved to diagnose HSV (herpes simplex virus) is called PCR and this lab test is expensive. It averages around $300 to $400 and insurance companies are not going to pay that.
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    Oct 31, 2015 4:33 PM GMT
    Kromethius saidI've been having some heavy thoughts on this subject. I notice that in my state they don't offer a herpes screening tests that is included with the standard hiv, chlamydia, gonorrhea, and syphilis tests. When you guys test are you testing for everything including herpes or just the standard 4? Guys Always say that they are clean but if clinics aren't enforcing a herpes blood tests and only suggest that if someone is symptomatic then have we done something wrong and should have tested with herpes to begin with?


    That's not true at all. Ask your doctor for a full panel. I'm in Texas and have been tested for herpes as well as the other major STDs
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    Oct 31, 2015 4:36 PM GMT
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    Kromethius saidI've been having some heavy thoughts on this subject. I notice that in my state they don't offer a herpes screening tests that is included with the standard hiv, chlamydia, gonorrhea, and syphilis tests. When you guys test are you testing for everything including herpes or just the standard 4? Guys Always say that they are clean but if clinics aren't enforcing a herpes blood tests and only suggest that if someone is symptomatic then have we done something wrong and should have tested with herpes to begin with?


    That's because the blood exam involved to diagnose HSV (herpes simplex virus) is called PCR and this lab test is expensive. It averages around $300 to $400 and insurance companies are not going to pay that.


    I worked at Starbucks got a full panel which included hsv1 and 2 and it cost me less than 100 out of pocket, including the doctors visit before and after. No Starbucks insurance isn't amazing. Its just above average for fast food.

    This place in Dallas offers a ten panel test for $249.

    https://www.stdcheck.com/std-test-pricing.php
  • Kromethius

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    Oct 31, 2015 6:24 PM GMT
    Well I ask this mainly because people always say they are clean but may or may not know if the herpes test is included. I guess I'm just concerned since after testing negative 3 years ago I haven't tested for it since because my doctor told me only to test when i have symptoms.
  • tj85016

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    Oct 31, 2015 6:49 PM GMT
    lol run a test only when you're symptomatic

    how screwed up is American healthcare? what a joke
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    Oct 31, 2015 9:05 PM GMT
    tj85016 saidlol run a test only when you're symptomatic

    how screwed up is American healthcare? what a joke


    Thank God for Canadian Universal Health Care. It's not perfect, but it works! I get tested for everything during my annual physical. If for whatever reason I feel the need to be tested prior to my next physical, I just see my Dr.

    Rich or Poor, All health care costs are covered by our Universal Health Care Plan.
  • tj85016

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    Oct 31, 2015 10:56 PM GMT
    ^^

    a Universal Health Care Plan wouldn't work in the US, the system is too big, it's 20-25% of GDP, and there's too much corruption

    we would have to cut way back on drugs and salaries, but that's not gonna happen
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    Oct 31, 2015 11:18 PM GMT
    tj85016 said^^

    a Universal Health Care Plan wouldn't work in the US, the system is too big, it's 20-25% of GDP, and there's too much corruption

    we would have to cut way back on drugs and salaries, but that's not gonna happen


    Well said and so true!!!!
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    Oct 31, 2015 11:43 PM GMT
    DefensiveEnd saidTwo old men sitting around talking at the nursing home:
    "You have herpes?"
    "No, this is my own hair. You have a hairpiece?"
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    Nov 01, 2015 1:58 AM GMT
    tj85016 saidlol run a test only when you're symptomatic

    how screwed up is American healthcare? what a joke


    Outside of the one guy who thinks herpes puts you at a significant risk of encephalitis, what would be the benefit of continually being tested for a very common but relatively harmless skin condition?
  • tj85016

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    Nov 01, 2015 2:10 AM GMT
    ^^

    nothing, but I thought it was pretty funny for a doctor to say you only need a screening if your symptomatic for herpes simplex, which 99% of the time is a cold sore on your lip

    at that point, who needs a test icon_lol.gif
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    Nov 01, 2015 2:20 AM GMT
    Two thirds of the world population has Herpes. If you've ever had a cold sore, you have it already.
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    Nov 01, 2015 3:19 AM GMT
    tj85016 said^^

    nothing, but I thought it was pretty funny for a doctor to say you only need a screening if your symptomatic for herpes simplex, which 99% of the time is a cold sore on your lip

    at that point, who needs a test icon_lol.gif


    I'm from South Florida and I've met multiple people who have had canker sores and thought they were herpes lesions. Also molluscum contagiosum can resemble herpes. Why would it be odd for a doctor to want to verify that you have herpes via a swab test of the lesion or a blood test instead of just saying yeah you have a sore must be herpes.
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    Nov 01, 2015 3:21 AM GMT
    Radd saidTwo thirds of the world population has Herpes. If you've ever had a cold sore, you have it already.


    What I find interesting is people love to down play hsv1 and say its just a cold sore. You can contract hsv2 orally. I'm sure its more common than people think given the prevelance of unprotected oral sex and rimming.
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    Nov 01, 2015 3:46 PM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle said
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    DefensiveEnd saidTwo old men sitting around talking at the nursing home:
    "You have herpes?"
    "No, this is my own hair. You have a hairpiece?"
    icon_lol.gif


    LOL

    Imagine these two old men with a very heavy Russian accent and it's a very plausible scenario. icon_lol.gif


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  • musclmed

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    Nov 01, 2015 5:45 PM GMT
    Erik101 said
    Kromethius saidI've been having some heavy thoughts on this subject. I notice that in my state they don't offer a herpes screening tests that is included with the standard hiv, chlamydia, gonorrhea, and syphilis tests. When you guys test are you testing for everything including herpes or just the standard 4? Guys Always say that they are clean but if clinics aren't enforcing a herpes blood tests and only suggest that if someone is symptomatic then have we done something wrong and should have tested with herpes to begin with?


    That's because the blood exam involved to diagnose HSV (herpes simplex virus) is called PCR and this lab test is expensive. It averages around $300 to $400 and insurance companies are not going to pay that.


    the HSV1 and HSV2 are serology tests .NOT PCR

    There exists PCR versions for both but the utility is for cerebral spinal fluid. Undetectable viral rates can be present in people infected with HSV2 because the viruse lies dormant in the nerve ganglion between outbreaks. The antibody however sticks around.

    In parts of Los angeles the positive rate for hsv2 is about 30-40%, the national average amongst gay men is probably 18% or so.

    This test is only useful for a doctor trying to figure out a rash or an outbreak. As a screening test it just causes alot of heartache IMHO