Gays Who Adopted Partners To Preserve Legal Rights Now Unable To Marry

  • metta

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    Nov 03, 2015 7:00 AM GMT
    Gays Who Adopted Partners To Preserve Legal Rights Now Unable To Marry


    http://www.towleroad.com/2015/11/gays-adopted-partners-preserve-legal-rights-now-unable-marry/
  • Buddha

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    Nov 03, 2015 8:37 AM GMT
    "The judge said adoptions are typically annulled only for fraud, and that allowing the annulment could jeopardize adoption decrees in fraud"

    But isn't that a kind of fraud then?
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    Nov 03, 2015 2:07 PM GMT
    Since when is posting a recent & developing news story involving gay marriage in the "Gay News & Events" forum (a category which I created, BTW) considered spam? From the RealJock Terms of Use:

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    By that site definition it would seem metta did not post spam here, not even remotely, nor has he ever. It does seem, however, that the second listed TOU/TOS violation more closely matches what honestsweat is attempting to do here.
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    Nov 03, 2015 3:02 PM GMT
    So is criticizing anything posted in this column that you "created" not just harassment, but a form of blasphemy? Can it be an abomination, too?
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    Nov 03, 2015 3:33 PM GMT
    MGINSD saidSo is criticizing anything posted in this column that you "created" not just harassment, but a form of blasphemy? Can it be an abomination, too?

    Blasphemy and abominations are not TOU/TOS violations. Words I never used. Try again.

    What IS a violation is spamming honestsweat's same false complaint all over this site, verbatim. Now THAT'S spam. And encouraging guys to incorrectly report an ordinary informative news thread as spam.

    Nice tactic you guys cooked up, but I don't think it'll work.
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    Nov 03, 2015 4:14 PM GMT
    Interesting that they went through with the adoption in 2012, when it was sort of clear that marriage equality would be the law of the land in the not too distant future. So, yeah, maybe not the wisest move.

    On the other hand, it does seem a special case. I mean, the Supreme Court recognized that the civil/human rights of a category of people have been systematically violated. You can't really demand that the legal stratagems used to work around systematic violations be an impediment to anyone's future.
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    Nov 03, 2015 4:30 PM GMT
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    Considering the crap this nation's law givers have dragged us though, given our newly endowed human rights, this issue ought to be resolved in our favor asap.

    I've reported on another thread that I knew of such a couple, next door neighbors of a friend. I think they'd been together about 40 years, the elder dying in his 80s when the younger was in his 60s. The older guy had Palm Beach money, a trust, so purposely sought to protect his lover's inheritance with adoption. Upon his death, his family fought the now decades old adoption, I believe nullifying it but I don't recall precisely, at that time it being illegal in Florida for gays to adopted.

    We were all horrified. Our friend was kicked out of the house he'd lived in most of his life and lost everything bestowed upon him by his lover of more than 4 decades. He suddenly found himself a grieving widow in his 60s stripped of everything.

    Florida owes him. This country owes us. That they forced us to suffer the indignity of loving as partner those adults we adopted to protect as our children. That they fed into the disgusting stereotype of gays as pedophile that even our own younger generations would disgustingly try to superimpose upon their elders today. That they'd strip us of those protections as it suited them, they need now to restore some stolen dignity and allow the annulment of adoption, imagined ramifications to the children of real, not such convenient adoption be damned.
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    Nov 03, 2015 7:46 PM GMT
    I've deleted the spam posted by HONESTSWEAT.

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    Nov 03, 2015 9:49 PM GMT
    theantijock saidConsidering the crap this nation's law givers have dragged us though, given our newly endowed human rights, this issue ought to be resolved in our favor asap.


    What have the "nation's law givers dragged "gays" though"?
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    Nov 03, 2015 10:37 PM GMT
    Adoption is largely controlled by state law, which varies significantly from state to state. Given that this issue is becoming more prevalent, it is likely that there will be more court cases in which gay partners seek to revoke or reverse a legally valid adoption in order to marry. Similarly, it is likely that there will be a diversity of contradictory decisions coming from state courts of first instance and appellate courts. Whether the issue eventually will find its way to the US Supreme Court is a big question.
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    Nov 03, 2015 10:42 PM GMT
    FitBlackCuddler said
    theantijock saidConsidering the crap this nation's law givers have dragged us though, given our newly endowed human rights, this issue ought to be resolved in our favor asap.


    What have the "nation's law givers dragged "gays" though"?


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    Nov 04, 2015 11:19 PM GMT
    Sounds like a good reason to move out of Pennsylvania.

    Find another state to get married in.

    Unlike some states' marriage certificate databases, states (and the federal government) don't keep data on who is the child of whomever.