Canada Is the Freest Country in the World. USA is in the 15th place in personal freedom.

  • metta

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    Nov 03, 2015 6:37 PM GMT
    Canada Is the Freest Country in the World



    http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/11/03/canada-is-the-freest-nation-in-the-world-legatum-study-says?src=usn_Fb
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    Nov 03, 2015 8:51 PM GMT
    "Coming out on top — ranking high in all categories — was Norway, which was named the most prosperous country in the world for the seventh year in a row."

    Standby for some green-eyed Norway bashing from the usual suspects.
  • metta

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    Nov 03, 2015 9:39 PM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidA bit confused here.

    According to the article you provided it says America ranks in at fifteen, not twenty-one.


    Thanks for the correction. The video said the US was 21st but the chart does show 15th for this year.
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    Nov 03, 2015 9:47 PM GMT
    Obviously America sucks. Try chanting "we're number 15-19, or whatever." It just doesn't have that same "we're number one (in no important category at all)."
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    Nov 03, 2015 11:04 PM GMT
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    US scores aren't too bad. 11 overall. 15 in personal freedom 1 in health. Looks like what knocked USA out of the top 10 overall is safety & security. Couldn't be all those guns, could it?

    I'd be curious to know what the categories entail. Personal freedom? Did they measure this before gay marriage right?

    All I see on a quick read of website for that is: freedom of expression, belief association and personal autonomy. Oh, and tolerance of immigrants and minorities.

    Well then, just reading this forum could have thrown off their numbers considerably.
  • tj85016

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    Nov 03, 2015 11:37 PM GMT
    lol the US is #1 in health? really? based on what criteria? that's almost laughable
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    Nov 04, 2015 5:22 AM GMT
    I don't know. Billings? Lemme check...

    http://media.prosperity.com/2015/pdf/publications/PI2015Brochure_WEB.pdf

    The Health sub-index measures countries’ performance in three areas: basic health outcomes (both objective and subjective), health infrastructure, and preventative care.

    Variables: infant mortality rate | life expectancy | DPT immunisation rate | incidence of TB | undernourishment
    | measles immunisation rate | health expenditure per person | satisfaction with health | level of worrying |
    satisfaction with environmental beauty | hospital beds | water quality | health-adjusted life expectancy |
    sanitation | death from respiratory diseases | well-rested | reported health problems |


    And here's what it says on safety where we scored so poorly:

    The Safety & Security sub-index is the US’s lowest rank at 33rd and it has been consistently the lowest for the country since 2009. The US is the only country in the top 20 of the Prosperity Index that is
    ranked outside the top 30 on the Safety & Security sub-index (see the map opposite). In light of events in the past year, such as the Baltimore protests or the Ferguson unrest, it is perhaps unsurprising that the indicator that measures group grievances has increased in the country. Also, since 2013, the US records some of the highest rates of property theft in the world: 17% of US citizens report that they have been a victim of theft-close to the rate recorded in Nicaragua, Panama, and Brazil, which is 18% (see figure left).

    More worrying still is the level of state-sponsored violence recorded in the US: a level of 3 (on a 1 to 5 scale), equivalent to countries such as Venezuela, the Dominican Republic, and El Salvador. In fact, the US is one of the only Western countries that scores so poorly in
    this measure.
  • musclmed

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    Nov 04, 2015 6:16 AM GMT
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    Well, I guess it would depend on ones definition of "freedom" and whether they are American liberals or conservatives. Maybe America can improve its ratings if more "parties" were allowed that just the two, stagnate ones. Or would this amount of choice just be too confusing for many, less educated, Americans? icon_idea.gif

    List of political parties in Canada
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_Canada


    House of Commons

    Liberal (184) ·
    Conservative (99) ·
    New Democratic (44) ·
    Bloc Québécois (10) ·
    Green (1)



    Senate

    Conservative (47) ·
    Independent Liberal (29) ·
    Independent Progressive Conservative (1) ·
    Independent (6)



    Other recognized parties

    Alliance of the North ·
    Accountability, Competency and Transparency ·
    Animal Alliance/Environment Voters ·
    Bridge ·
    Canada Party ·
    Canadian Action ·
    Christian Heritage ·
    Communist ·
    Democratic Advancement ·
    Libertarian ·
    Marijuana ·
    Marxist–Leninist ·
    Pirate ·
    Progressive Canadian ·
    Rhinoceros ·
    Seniors ·
    Strength in Democracy ·
    United



    Notable historical parties

    Anti-Confederate ·
    Bloc populaire ·
    Canadian Alliance ·
    Conservative (historical) ·
    Co-operative Commonwealth ·
    Labour ·
    Labour Progressive ·
    New Democracy ·
    Progressive Conservative ·
    Progressive/United Farmers ·
    Ralliement créditiste ·
    Reform ·
    Social Credit ·
    Unionist


    In the USA, ""Liberal-Conservative Party"" is an oxymoron icon_rolleyes.gif


    List of federal political parties in Canada
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_political_parties_in_Canada

    Liberal-Conservative Party
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal-Conservative_Party

    The Liberal-Conservative Party was the formal name of the Conservative Party of Canada until 1873, although some Conservative candidates continued to run under the label as late as the 1911 election and others ran as simple Conservatives prior to 1873. In many of Canada's early elections, there were both "Liberal-Conservative" and "Conservative" candidates; however, these were simply different labels used by candidates of the same party, both were part of Sir John A. Macdonald's government and official Conservative and Liberal-Conservative candidates would not, generally, run against each other. It was also not uncommon for a candidate to run on one label in one election and the other in a subsequent election.

  • roadbikeRob

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    Nov 04, 2015 2:04 PM GMT
    tj85016 saidlol the US is #1 in health? really? based on what criteria? that's almost laughable
    Well we do have an excellent health care system but it is largely unaffordable to the mass majority of Americans.
  • SkyMiles

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    Nov 04, 2015 6:00 PM GMT
    It should come as no surprise. In the US, your "rights" are hardly inalienable. You're only as free as you can afford to be.
  • JackNNJ

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    Nov 05, 2015 5:49 AM GMT
    Ex_Mil8 said"Coming out on top — ranking high in all categories — was Norway, which was named the most prosperous country in the world for the seventh year in a row."

    Standby for some green-eyed Norway bashing from the usual suspects.


    I'm tellin' ya, it's the whale meat.
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    Nov 05, 2015 4:15 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob said
    tj85016 saidlol the US is #1 in health? really? based on what criteria? that's almost laughable
    Well we do have an excellent health care system but it is largely unaffordable to the mass majority of Americans.


    It's also true that many Americans who CAN afford it choose not to as that would mean giving up the lease payments on that BMW they're driving. In addition, more Americans per capita need to own cars to carry out their lives than in many other countries that invest more heavily in rail and public transit systems.

    (Licensed insurance producer here)