Irritable Male Syndrome. Do You Have It?

  • Noeton

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    Nov 07, 2015 9:23 PM GMT
    Or does anyone you know?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUcKbAq12ow

    http://web.archive.org/web/20100522141934/http://www.healthtree.com/articles/pms/basics/male-pms.php

    "The irritable male syndrome (IMS) is a behavioural state of nervousness, irritability, lethargy and depression that occurs in adult male mammals following withdrawal of testosterone (T)."

    Feel free to respond with empirical examples of the syndrome itself!
  • roadbikeRob

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    Nov 14, 2015 5:23 AM GMT
    When in life does this occur, in the 40sicon_question.gif in the 50sicon_question.gif
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    Nov 14, 2015 5:40 AM GMT
    Sounds like general anxiety disorder.
  • Noeton

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    Jan 11, 2016 6:26 AM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidWhen in life does this occur, in the 40sicon_question.gif in the 50sicon_question.gif



    Well some certainly say that testosterone has declined by that age range, but I've also read that some think that testosterone actually does not necessarily need to decline with age -- or not as much as it is thought to decline. I would speculate that the decline observed might be due to a diet and lifestyle that is not adequately supportive of testosterone production.

    It's also my guess that this syndrome doesn't just kick in big time at a certain age, but that younger men who are chronically irritable also have low testosterone. If they are overweight and sedentary I would guess they are more likely to have IMS.

    Personally, if I thought I had IMS, I would try to address it through diet and lifestyle improvements before turning to supplemental testosterone. http://www.anabolicmen.com/

    To be extremely blunt, given that this forum is plagued by bitchy trolls, I'm surprised this thread didn't get more attention!
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    Jan 11, 2016 6:36 AM GMT
    I think MOST men today need to lose a few ponds and start building muscle. Exercising the muscles burn fat and that elevates your TESTOSTERONE. They say excess body fat or obesity creates more estrogen in the male body.
    Maybe that's why it's no longer a Jock site.....but an old lady's RAG site!
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    Jan 11, 2016 6:38 AM GMT
    Noeton saidIrritable Male Syndrome. Do You Have It?
    Go fuck yourself.
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    Jan 11, 2016 6:40 AM GMT
    paulflexes said
    Noeton saidIrritable Male Syndrome. Do You Have It?
    Go fuck yourself.


    Look who's on the rag again.....lol
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    Jan 11, 2016 6:45 AM GMT
    2Bnaked said
    paulflexes said
    Noeton saidIrritable Male Syndrome. Do You Have It?
    Go fuck yourself.


    Look who's on the rag again.....lol
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    Jan 11, 2016 7:17 AM GMT
    How do you explain 'roid rage? So is it too little testosterone or too much that makes one irritable?
  • Noeton

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    Jan 11, 2016 7:34 AM GMT
    UndercoverMan saidHow do you explain 'roid rage? So is it too little testosterone or too much that makes one irritable?


    Obviously too little, according to the studies. I don't know if 'roid rage is real or a myth. But anybody using steroids without a prescription is asking for health trouble. If that includes irritability, I wouldn't be surprised. Steroids aren't in this equation -- see the links I provided. The studies are cited.

    Why not read before posting?

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11999307

    http://www.amazon.com/The-Irritable-Male-Syndrome-Understanding/dp/1594862915
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    Jan 11, 2016 1:47 PM GMT
    Noeton said
    http://www.amazon.com/The-Irritable-Male-Syndrome-Understanding/dp/1594862915


    Cool, cool. Question. Did you read that book before posting? Were you already read up on this topic? I had never heard of it before this guy posted about it.
  • Noeton

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    Jan 11, 2016 2:12 PM GMT
    javelin7 said
    Noeton said
    http://www.amazon.com/The-Irritable-Male-Syndrome-Understanding/dp/1594862915


    Cool, cool. Question. Did you read that book before posting? Were you already read up on this topic? I had never heard of it before this guy posted about it.


    No, I didn't read that whole book first... just parts of it online. There's also an interview with the author online. What I meant by "read before posting" is just that the answer to the first part of the previous poster's question (that too little testosterone is the culprit) can be easily found in my first post and its links.
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    Jan 11, 2016 2:25 PM GMT
    paulflexes said
    Noeton saidIrritable Male Syndrome. Do You Have It?
    Go fuck yourself.

    LOL! Funny. Actually, isn't this syndrome perhaps one explanation for the crabby old "Get off my lawn!" guys? Who also became Teabaggers, so they'd have more to bitch & complain about. Which their wives likely encouraged in the hope they'd take it outside their home to expend their hateful energies elsewhere.

    I've actually seen this condition a lot with older men, increasingly my peers. But it's curious: some seniors become more composed & reasonable, and the perfect gentlemen as they age. They're generally the happy ones, almost always pleasant & smiling. Versus the angry Teabaggers, who hate everything, always with a scowl on their face, ready to fight the world and everybody in it.
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    Jan 11, 2016 3:11 PM GMT
    Noeton said
    Feel free to respond with empirical examples of the syndrome itself!

    My empirical would only be personal experiences & observations, essentially subjective anecdotal. As I wrote in my last above, I see a lot of angry old guys my age. But I have no idea what their testosterone levels are, other than by inference due to their age.

    In my own case, my testosterone dropped quickly as I passed 60. Not unusual for men that age. But I had already developed prostate cancer, not diagnosed until I was 62. While the prostate itself does not produce hormones, cancer there can evidently depress output from the testes that do make it.

    As part of my treatment I had to take the testosterone suppressant Lupron, effectively being chemically castrated temporarily. I was warned about various emotional changes, anger and anxiety attacks possible, along with getting male menopause, which hit me big time. All of these testosterone changes were compressed into a very short time for me, so I could see them almost daily, not yearly.

    Today the Lupron injections have long stopped, and during a routine doctor's visit last week my blood work showed a testosterone level well into the normal range, the highest I've had since my mid-50s at least. YAY! I imagine that's partly responsible for the weight I acquired during that period finally starting to drop. (BTW, my undetectable blood PSA suggests the cancer remains gone after 4 years)

    So I may have had this syndrome briefly, but medically induced. Now that it's passed, my expectations for avoiding ever becoming an angry Teabagger are greater than ever. icon_biggrin.gif
  • Noeton

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    Jan 11, 2016 4:47 PM GMT
    Hey ArtDeco, thanks for the great posts.

    For sure the teabaggers (radical Republican/Tea Party folks) are suffering big time from this! Good point! There really seems to be some food for thought here about the possible broader political, psychological and interpersonal effects of IMS. What would life be like with less trolls around?

    Great to hear about your good health and testosterone at present! Any tips for other men around your age on how you maintain a good testosterone level?
  • HottJoe

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    Jan 11, 2016 7:27 PM GMT
    This is a good excuse for weight training. I know when I feel pumped up it's like a surge of testosterone.
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    Jan 11, 2016 7:40 PM GMT
    Noeton said
    Great to hear about your good health and testosterone at present! Any tips for other men around your age on how you maintain a good testosterone level?

    Thanks so much! I'm not sure about the testosterone level maintenance. I think being active helps, and staying healthy. Also having sex regularly. I try to have sex at least once a day, even if it's just masturbating. And if that isn't a valid assumption, I still have fun trying. icon_wink.gif
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    Jan 11, 2016 11:39 PM GMT
    theantijock%20engage%20stalker%20reducti

    I have insatiable male syndrome.
  • HottJoe

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    Jan 12, 2016 1:08 AM GMT
    theantijock saidtheantijock%20engage%20stalker%20reducti

    I have insatiable male syndrome.

    I don't believe it!