People With HIV Could Soon Stay Healthy — Without Taking Any Pills

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    Nov 09, 2015 10:26 AM GMT
    http://news.yahoo.com/people-hiv-could-soon-stay-214742500.html
  • Antarktis

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    Nov 09, 2015 1:36 PM GMT
    Instead of two hours in the doctors office every six months you get to go every two month unless they set it up so people can inject themselves.
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    Nov 09, 2015 3:12 PM GMT
    Turin saidhttp://news.yahoo.com/people-hiv-could-soon-stay-214742500.html


    Doesn't matter:

    "The human immunodeficiency virus takes over a body's white blood cells and turns them into factories that make more HIV. Those white blood cells, which fight off disease, are no longer able to do so. The number of viral copies in a person's body is called someone's viral load."

    WHY would I want this condition, all of that shit in my body TO BEGIN WITH?
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    Nov 09, 2015 4:03 PM GMT
    FitBlackCuddler saidWHY would I want this condition, all of that shit in my body TO BEGIN WITH?


    I think that's like asking, "Why would anyone want cancer to begin with?"

    This would be a huge step forward. Right now, it appears that one of the big problems with HIV management is people not taking the pills regularly. If you are thinking, "How hard can it be to take one pill a day," consider that many are struggling with crippling addictions that render them barely able to function.

    It is much easier to make sure someone gets a shot once every two months than to watch them take a pill on a daily basis. I learned this when my aunt had a stroke and had to take blood thinners: she was functioning just fine, but when she popped the pills into her mouth, they frequently missed it and flew onto the carpet.
  • wild_sky360

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    Nov 09, 2015 6:49 PM GMT
    Sounds like a good option for people that are too debilitated to maintain a strict regiment. There is also probably an aversion factor to taking a medication you know causes unpleasant side effects, regardless of lifesaving necessity.

    " recent blood work is good.. feeling healthier... I can skip a few doses and actually feel good for a few days"?

    Personally, I'd look into healthy, natural, adjunct therapies and talk to a doctor about incorporating them. Perhaps allowing for reduced usage and dosage of medications over time.

    Monolaurin..Lactoferrin..Colostrum,, all have natural immune boosting properties in general without any downside and have all been investigated for use against HIV in particular as well. At the very least they'd be good prophylactic for other complicating conditions.

    http://www.inspirednutrition.com/aids-and-monolaurin.html

    http://journals.lww.com/aidsonline/fulltext/1999/07090/lactoferrin_inhibits_hiv_1_replication_in_vitro.18.aspx

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    Nov 09, 2015 7:55 PM GMT
    themachine said
    FitBlackCuddler saidWHY would I want this condition, all of that shit in my body TO BEGIN WITH?


    I think that's like asking, "Why would anyone want cancer to begin with?"


    HIV is far more difficult to get than a cancer. Two men can be emotionally and physically intimate in many ways that do not lead to STDs or HIV--but it seems the majority of you prefer a life with the disease.
  • Rhi_Bran

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    Nov 10, 2015 12:45 AM GMT
    I think that's like asking, "Why would anyone want cancer to begin with?"

    No, no it isn't. Some cancers can develop regardless of your life choices. If you lived long enough, you would inevitably develop some kind of cancer as your immune system fails due to age. If you don't have sex and don't share needles, you can't get HIV. If you practice safe sex, you very likely won't get HIV. One is completely avoidable, the other not so much.
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    Nov 10, 2015 2:40 AM GMT
    The question is whether taking a day off work and going to the doctors office is easier to comply with than taking pills every day.

    Of course, this brings up the possibility of sending bounty hunters out after non-compliant patients, armed with dart guns loaded up with the stuff. New reality TV series! Broadcast fees offset the cost! icon_razz.gif
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    Nov 10, 2015 11:55 AM GMT
    mindgarden saidThe question is whether taking a day off work and going to the doctors office is easier to comply with than taking pills every day.

    Of course, this brings up the possibility of sending bounty hunters out after non-compliant patients, armed with dart guns loaded up with the stuff. New reality TV series! Broadcast fees offset the cost! icon_razz.gif


    I would suggest the Title of this thread be never repeated ever and the revised version later mentioned.I would further suggest that template of which to announce treatment.
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    Nov 10, 2015 3:47 PM GMT
    HIV is far more difficult to get than a cancer. Two men can be emotionally and physically intimate in many ways that do not lead to STDs or HIV--but it seems the majority of you prefer a life with the disease.[/quote]

    Ahh, the simple life of the class clown.
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    Nov 10, 2015 5:52 PM GMT
    smartmoney saidHIV is far more difficult to get than a cancer. Two men can be emotionally and physically intimate in many ways that do not lead to STDs or HIV--but it seems the majority of you prefer a life with the disease.


    Ahh, the simple life of the class clown. [/quote]

    You find this funny? Then you DO NOT think there are ways for men to enjoy intimacy that do not lead to HIV?
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    Nov 11, 2015 7:33 PM GMT
    FitBlackCuddler saidHIV is far more difficult to get than a cancer. Two men can be emotionally and physically intimate in many ways that do not lead to STDs or HIV--but it seems the majority of you prefer a life with the disease.


    What a dumb comment. Really..

    People who already have it don't have the choice. There's nothing to prefer. Those that don't and who ARE safe, you never hear about.

    Your "hugs only" preference is as realistic for the general population as abstinence in preventing pregnancy.



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    Nov 12, 2015 7:50 PM GMT
    Sydneyrugbyjock73 said
    mindgarden saidThe question is whether taking a day off work and going to the doctors office is easier to comply with than taking pills every day.

    Of course, this brings up the possibility of sending bounty hunters out after non-compliant patients, armed with dart guns loaded up with the stuff. New reality TV series! Broadcast fees offset the cost! icon_razz.gif


    I would suggest the Title of this thread be never repeated ever and the revised version later mentioned.I would further suggest that template of which to announce treatment.


    WTF?
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    FitBlackCuddler said
    smartmoney saidHIV is far more difficult to get than a cancer. Two men can be emotionally and physically intimate in many ways that do not lead to STDs or HIV--but it seems the majority of you prefer a life with the disease.


    Ahh, the simple life of the class clown.


    You find this funny? Then you DO NOT think there are ways for men to enjoy intimacy that do not lead to HIV?[/quote]

    Maybe you missed the part where no one got HIV from their Undetectable partner.