Now this is Fine Art!

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    Nov 10, 2015 3:21 AM GMT
    Any of you collectors here? If you have some rare art it could be worth Millions!
    Many great finds are found in thrift stores or estate sales/carport sales. Keep your eyes out and keep up on your Art History! Trust me, it pays!!
    With $170.4 Million Sale at Auction, Modigliani Work Joins Rarefied Nine-Figure Club
    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/10/arts/with-170-4-million-sale-at-auction-modigliani-work-joins-rarefied-nine-figure-club.html
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    Nov 10, 2015 3:28 AM GMT
    Once in a thrift shop a painting caught my eye. Crazily, at first I thought it was a paint-by-numbers, then looked more closely and realized it was a Craftsman oil painting signed "Boris Riedel" in what was probably its original frame:

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    I googled him, found out he was not only the first cover artist for "Chicagoan" magazine but illustrated books and, probably most famously, movie posters, including a few for Lon Chaney films. Got a little excited and looked his works up on various auction sites and found paintings, and prints of his paintings, like this:

    https://www.annexgalleries.com/inventory/detail/17160/Boris-Riedel/Untitled-California-landscape

    Surprisingly the painting I bought for $50 is now maybe worth $150. Not a great ROI so I'm glad I love it.

    In a gift shop I saw a bronze of a circus performer with a poodle. Having poodles I've avoided poodle memorabilia but I just had to have it and bought it for $200. I actually asked you guys on a thread if you could identify the artist and RJ member mindgarden came through:

    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/1528481

    Found out the same bronze was estimated to bring in up to $7,000 at auction (http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/6251077) because it was engraved with an "1883" inscription on the base, but mine isn't, so it's likely an antique reproduction of an antique probably worth...$200.



  • metta

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    Nov 11, 2015 5:37 AM GMT
    I have read that the Chinese have been pushing art prices up. One of the reasons for it is because it is easier for the Chinese to pull their assets out of China. China has made it very difficult to pull out more than $50,000 a person.
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    Nov 13, 2015 1:45 AM GMT
    metta saidI have read that the Chinese have been pushing art prices up. One of the reasons for it is because it is easier for the Chinese to pull their assets out of China. China has made it very difficult to pull out more than $50,000 a person.


    That's interesting/good to know. I have a friend who's trying to sell a Paul Gauguin
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    Nov 15, 2015 10:20 PM GMT
    Wow $170 million!! If only my grandma had one icon_lol.gif
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    Nov 16, 2015 12:33 AM GMT
    eagermuscle saidOnce in a thrift shop a painting caught my eye. Crazily, at first I thought it was a paint-by-numbers, then looked more closely and realized it was a Craftsman oil painting signed "Boris Riedel" in what was probably its original frame:

    ven4fa.jpg

    11rf13o.jpg

    2iaapua.jpg

    I googled him, found out he was not only the first cover artist for "Chicagoan" magazine but illustrated books and, probably most famously, movie posters, including a few for Lon Chaney films. Got a little excited and looked his works up on various auction sites and found paintings, and prints of his paintings, like this:

    https://www.annexgalleries.com/inventory/detail/17160/Boris-Riedel/Untitled-California-landscape

    Surprisingly the painting I bought for $50 is now maybe worth $150. Not a great ROI so I'm glad I love it.


    Nice. It's painted in a similar style to these British wartime posters which I once bought copies of.

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    Nov 16, 2015 6:29 PM GMT
    i think he has no talent whatsoever, average at best
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    Nov 16, 2015 7:13 PM GMT
    bonaparts saidi think he has no talent whatsoever, average at best


    I wonder if someone who conflates "average" with "no talent" is competent to judge in the first place. Anyway, if the purpose of art is to interest its audience, then clearly it interested you enough for you to pass comment.
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    Nov 16, 2015 7:35 PM GMT
    Ex_Mil8 said
    bonaparts saidi think he has no talent whatsoever, average at best


    I wonder if someone who conflates "average" with "no talent" is competent to judge in the first place. Anyway, if the purpose of art is to interest its audience, then clearly it interested you enough for you to pass comment.



    title does say fine art and yeah average means no talent, you stupid?
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    Nov 16, 2015 9:10 PM GMT
    bonaparts said
    title does say fine art and yeah average means no talent, you stupid?


    Semantics aside, I think we can agree it isn't fine art.
  • Apparition

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    Nov 22, 2015 4:44 AM GMT
    Ex_Mil8 said
    bonaparts said
    title does say fine art and yeah average means no talent, you stupid?


    Semantics aside, I think we can agree it isn't fine art.



    It takes talent to paint simplified representations. More to get published for money. Your pompous ideas aside. Id be happy to be able to refine images down to the level of block paintings.
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    Nov 22, 2015 7:36 PM GMT
    Apparition said
    It takes talent to paint simplified representations. More to get published for money. Your pompous ideas aside. Id be happy to be able to refine images down to the level of block paintings.


    I was referring to the painting in the OP (as, I assumed, was bonaparts). I'd call it "naive art", but not "fine art".

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    As to what I'd rather have hanging on my wall, I'd take eagermuscles's thrift shop buy any day, but then what constitutes good art is very much a matter of personal taste.
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    Nov 22, 2015 7:47 PM GMT
    I heard the Getty was driving up prices, has done so for a long time.