Muscle Shaming Is Ok But Fat Shaming Isnt ...

  • monstapex

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    Nov 10, 2015 4:04 PM GMT
    Interesting article.You see a lot of "Muscle Shaming" on this so called "fitness" site.

    http://www.cutandjacked.com/Muscle-Shaming


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  • metta

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    Nov 10, 2015 4:25 PM GMT
    I have not seen comments about muscle shaming very often. But I do think that it goes too far when it starts to affect the health of someone, whether it be from doing drugs/steroids or from too much constant pressure on the major organs that it damages them.
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    Nov 10, 2015 4:35 PM GMT
    I always complimented the appearance of, and never denigrated the lifestyle of, my morbidly obese cousin, whose life revolves around all-you-can-eat-buffets, yet she muscle-shamed me on Facebook.

    Bear in mind that she, like most people, like posting photos of their meals, desserts, drinks on Facebook, often while talking ceaselessly about their efforts to "diet."

    I'd dropped 25 lbs with nary a word but with fresh news I figured would be of "general interest" (rare for me, as you all know) I'd done a status update saying "I just found out I have the body fat levels of men in their twenties. And that's about it."

    An old high school friend commented "What's your secret?" and my fat cousin responded to her, not knowing that the old friend was always a stay-at-home mom but now with grown kids, commented with:

    "Free from the stresses of an every day commute to a 40 hour week job, and plenty of time to work out? ;) He's always been very body conscious so it does not surprise me."

    What a bitch.

    First, the fat cousin is a LIBRARIAN with a 15 minute commute. I was in BETTER shape in my forties as a LEGAL MANAGER at a Manhattan law firm with an international reputation of being a SLAVE MILL, working 60 plus hour weeks with a three hour daily commute.

    You can't win with jealous people. Like people who tailgate, their inability to manage their time will always be your problem.
  • Zigs_01

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    Nov 10, 2015 5:03 PM GMT
    Both are ugly.
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    Nov 10, 2015 6:09 PM GMT
    I know it's fucking disgusting, it a crime to buy steroids but it is perfectly acceptable to get obese and be a burden in public transport and health service and get all related diseases

    It does not make any sense
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    Nov 10, 2015 10:28 PM GMT
    There's a difference between people who use steroids recreationally and people who are obese because of illness or side effects from medication: the former have a choice, and the latter do not. There's no valid reason to conflate the two. I agree, however, that those who are obese because of lack of self-discipline need to address their problem.
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    Nov 10, 2015 10:31 PM GMT
    DOMINUS saidThere's a difference between people who use steroids recreationally and people who are obese because of illness or side effects from medication: the former have a choice, and the latter do not. There's no valid reason to conflate the two. I agree, however, that those who are obese because of lack of self-discipline need to address their problem.


    no such thing
  • metta

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    Nov 10, 2015 10:50 PM GMT
    ^
    Yes there is!
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    Nov 10, 2015 10:55 PM GMT
    No ... there .... is NOT
    medication/ilness alone can give oedema which can make the person look overweight at best, if you don't eat like a pig, there is no chance of being obese
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    Nov 10, 2015 11:13 PM GMT
    Muscle shaming? Only when it goes accompanied with roids icon_wink.gif
    Drugs are not good kids
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    Nov 10, 2015 11:22 PM GMT
    David666k saidMuscle shaming? Only when it goes accompanied with roids icon_wink.gif
    Drugs are not good kids



    First time I've agreed with you I think! Sure roids give bigger muscles, but what about the side effects? Rage, impotence and a lot of others. It's illegal in sports.
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    Nov 10, 2015 11:26 PM GMT
    timmm55 said
    David666k saidMuscle shaming? Only when it goes accompanied with roids icon_wink.gif
    Drugs are not good kids



    First time I've agreed with you I think! Sure roids give bigger muscles, but what about the side effects? Rage, impotence and a lot of others. It's illegal in sports.


    funny when you talk about side effects when prep has very destructive impact on health and I know that from health professional who does not give prep to people only if there is undeniably high risk of getting hiv because it can cause instant destructive damage to inner organs even from the first dose
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    Nov 10, 2015 11:27 PM GMT
    bonaparts said
    timmm55 said
    David666k saidMuscle shaming? Only when it goes accompanied with roids icon_wink.gif
    Drugs are not good kids



    First time I've agreed with you I think! Sure roids give bigger muscles, but what about the side effects? Rage, impotence and a lot of others. It's illegal in sports.


    funny when you talk about side effects when prep has very destructive impact on health and I know that from health professional who does not give prep to people only if there is undeniably high risk of getting hiv because it can cause instant destructive damage to inner organs even from the first dose

    First time I've agreed with you I think!
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    Nov 10, 2015 11:29 PM GMT
    monstapex saidInteresting article.You see a lot of "Muscle Shaming" on this so called "fitness" site.

    http://www.cutandjacked.com/Muscle-Shaming


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    This comment is just stupid:
    "The one that always gets me is when people will come up to me and without any warning will squeeze my bicep and shout “Wow, you must work out!”. Would they walk up to an obese person, squeeze their arm and state, “Wow, you must eat a lot!”? No. Pretty sure this would result in some kind of lawsuit. But for someone to do that to a highly muscled person, and I’m talking both male and female, is somehow ok. Go figure."

    Comparing a compliment to a sarcastic put-down is ridiculous. FAIL
  • monstapex

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    Nov 10, 2015 11:36 PM GMT
    DOMINUS saidThere's a difference between people who use steroids recreationally and people who are obese because of illness or side effects from medication: the former have a choice, and the latter do not. There's no valid reason to conflate the two. I agree, however, that those who are obese because of lack of self-discipline need to address their problem.


    I'll bet you've had some dummy ask you if you use steroids because you workout.
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    Nov 11, 2015 12:02 AM GMT
    I disagree. People are fat by choice. No one is forcing them to eat a whole bucket of chicken followed by a whole gallon of ice cream.
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    Nov 11, 2015 12:11 AM GMT
    All competitive athletes are on PEDs. People assume it's the only the big hulking bodybuilders that are juicing. Time to wake up.

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    Nov 11, 2015 12:57 AM GMT
    bonaparts saidNo ... there .... is NOT
    medication/ilness alone can give oedema which can make the person look overweight at best, if you don't eat like a pig, there is no chance of being obese


    If medications can kill ones appetite, there must be those that may ramp up ones appetite.
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    Nov 11, 2015 1:00 AM GMT
    xrichx saidAll competitive athletes are on PEDs. People assume it's the only the big hulking bodybuilders that are juicing. Time to wake up.

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    Yep and I won't cry for them if they suffer deleterious effects later in life just as I don't feel sorry for my Dad who suffers with COPD after decades of abusing his body with tobacco. You make your choices; you suffer the consequences.
  • metta

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    Nov 11, 2015 1:07 AM GMT
    "some very common medications can also lead to weight gain - prescription drugs used for mood disorders, diabetes, high blood pressure and seizures can all add on unwanted pounds."


    http://www.drugs.com/article/weight-gain.html



    Drug-induced weight gain.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16234878


    Medical Causes of Obesity

    Hypothyroidism. This is a condition where the thyroid gland, located in the neck, produces too little thyroid hormone. Thyroid hormone regulates our metabolism. So too little hormone slows the metabolism and often causes weight gain. If your doctor suspects thyroid disease as a cause of your obesity, he or she may perform blood tests to check your hormone levels.

    Cushing's syndrome. This condition results when the adrenal glands (located on top of each kidney) produce an excess amount of a steroid hormone called cortisol. This leads to a build-up of fat in characteristic sites such as the face, upper back, and abdomen.

    http://www.webmd.com/diet/obesity/medical-reasons-obesity
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    Nov 11, 2015 1:12 AM GMT
    to metta

    Blah blah blah blah blah, lost's of excuses nothing that cannot be fixed with balanced food intake and good exercise

    And any dummy would know that, all it has to be done is look at the nations with limited food recourses and the ones who actually have to wotk to get the food
  • metta

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    Nov 11, 2015 1:13 AM GMT
    I have a friend that was put on an antidepressant and it was shocking how much weight she gained in a 2 month period, about 50 pounds. It was extremely painful to gain weight that quickly. The doctor said he had never seen anything like it but it was mostly due to the medicine he put her one. She is doing much better since the doctor switched the medication. Bodies can react differently to various drugs.

    I have another friend who's mother gained a lot of weight from taking thyroid medication. Try and tell my friend that people can't gain weight from medication and she would be royally pissed with you. She has seen it for herself how medicines affected her mom.
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    Nov 11, 2015 2:18 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle said^

    Be that as it may, there is no medication on this planet that makes a person balloon upwards of 400-500lbs.

    When a person becomes morbidly obese and weighs this much he is just out of control with his eating habits.


    I'll never understand why we don't see morbid obesity as a mental health issue and not just a lack of motivation, will power issue. Given how hard it is to be morbidly obese the vast majority of people wouldn't do so without some corresponding mental issue.
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    Nov 11, 2015 2:27 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle said
    timmm55 said
    David666k saidMuscle shaming? Only when it goes accompanied with roids icon_wink.gif
    Drugs are not good kids



    First time I've agreed with you I think! Sure roids give bigger muscles, but what about the side effects? Rage, impotence and a lot of others. It's illegal in sports.


    I'm rather surprised that you would contribute this type of response. There are guys who go decades with using steroids and do so carefully and don't experience problems. Many of the top Olympia level bodybuilders take a boatload of steroids and growth hormone and fare pretty well.

    I have heard of exogenously injected growth hormone to be associated with a shortened lifespan but it's not like using GH cuts a person's life by several decades.

    I personally don't find that look to be attractive as it's excessive but to each their own.

    And if you'll look at this fitness model on the left, you all need to know that she's on quite a bit of drugs to have that degree of muscularity along with an extremely defined body.


    Of course mr bald roids would complain someone shames drug users like himself icon_lol.gif
    (not everyone has your low moral standards)
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    Nov 11, 2015 2:46 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle said
    David666k said

    Of course mr bald roids would complain someone shames drug users like himself icon_lol.gif
    (not everyone has your low moral standards)


    Oh look, it's our Middle eastern terrorist, antisemitic cocaine using fellow RJ user.

    Are you out of blow again?

    That most certainly explains your quarrelsome nature.

    Or maybe it's your MENA DNA. You know, quick to anger and all.

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    I just love it when your come backs are some ridiculous bullshit as a reply to true facts, which are you being bald, using drug steroids and having low moral standards.