Addicted to chemsex: 'It's a horror story'

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    Nov 22, 2015 10:47 AM GMT
    I thought it's not as much of a problem, even when I see every other gay men is either into PnP or Chem friendly these days. Another self destructing behavior or are these just junkies? Should we shame such behavior or is it just another of those "personal choice" thing?

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/22/addicted-to-chemsex-gay-drugs-film?CMP=fb_gu
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    Nov 22, 2015 8:20 PM GMT
    I'd guess that it's a very small percentage that are doing this.

    As usual the media likes to blow things out of proportion; it's a great way to grab eyeballs. Cautionary news articles aren't bad but it's really more about them grabbing eyeballs rather than truthful reporting.
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    Nov 22, 2015 10:10 PM GMT
    I don't think so. It's might just be the city I am living in, but I hear similar stories from other gays I meet. People have taken personal freedom to another level. It's the same thing with BB sex. I have been ridiculed for not knowing the abbreviations of certain drugs.
    Obviously, not every gay men I meet is high on drugs. Still, based on what I see on dating profiles, the percentage isn't insignificant.
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    Nov 22, 2015 10:38 PM GMT
    I thought that the PNP thing was sort of dying out, compared to 10 or 15 years ago. Perhaps:
    a) They annihilated themselves
    b) I just don't get invited to those parties any more
    c) It's not so obvious, now that everybody in Portland is stoned 24/7
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    Nov 22, 2015 11:26 PM GMT
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    __morphic__ saidI thought it's not as much of a problem, even when I see every other gay men is either into PnP or Chem friendly these days. Another self destructing behavior or are these just junkies? Should we shame such behavior or is it just another of those "personal choice" thing?

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/22/addicted-to-chemsex-gay-drugs-film?CMP=fb_gu


    Where your quotes shame I'm not sure your "or" is valid.

    mindgarden saidI thought that the PNP thing was sort of dying out, compared to 10 or 15 years ago. Perhaps:
    a) They annihilated themselves
    b) I just don't get invited to those parties any more
    c) It's not so obvious, now that everybody in Portland is stoned 24/7


    We lost a lot from our generation too. Among the "kids" (I guess we're supposed to be grownups now) who I grew up with, 9 died directly of drugs and quite a few others of consumption/complications later on. Now all, or at least as far as I know, of them were str8. So this is not just a gay issue.

    Though we didn't have nearly the selection they have today. I don't even know what most of the stuff is that I hear talked about. And I've heard even pot is more potent than it used to be so that probably all upped the ante.

    As to current prevalence, just googled this:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/chemsex-addiction-health_5637e828e4b00a4d2e0b9707
    Chemsex is not a pervasive problem in the general population, and is only practiced by a very small segment of men in the gay community. About 5.9 percent of gay men in South London had ever used or injected non-prescription drugs in general, and only 3.5 percent had done it in the past year.


    To the OP's article I thought this interesting...
    “They don’t want a drug like heroin that isolates them and helps them dissociate more. Gay men need a drug for a different purpose. They want a different drug: ecstasy, cocaine, all these kind of drugs that were popular with us throughout the 90s. They enable you to empathise. You take ecstasy on a dancefloor and you’re not alone any more. That’s a beautiful, beautiful thing.”

    ...for a few reasons.

    One, the kids are more empathizing today? Really? Bartender, a round of drugs for the RJ crowd! Let us know when the empathizing manifests into forum discussion.

    But more seriously, I thought interesting the idea of the difference between a social drug and an introspective one. So, along with all this new found empathizing, I look forward to enjoying the accompanying social skills sure to develop and present themselves among our gay youth.

    Perhaps the answer is to keep them on drugs and just lower the dose?