Turkish soccer fans boo and jeer moment of silence for the French

  • tj85016

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    Nov 22, 2015 2:13 PM GMT
    and start chanting the typical allah crap

    lol, religion of peace

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/11/17/video-turkey-fans-boo-moment-of-silence-for-paris-attacks-then-break-out-into-this-chant/
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    Nov 22, 2015 2:39 PM GMT
    Ask any people subjugated under Muslim domination if it is a religion of peace.
  • bro4bro

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    Nov 22, 2015 6:48 PM GMT
    In the fall of 2001 I met a young American couple who were traveling around the world. They happened to be in Kenya on 9/11. Wherever they went, they were taunted by crowds of people in the street chanting "Osama! Osama!"

    What kind of human beings would do this?
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    Nov 22, 2015 6:56 PM GMT
    bro4bro saidIn the fall of 2001 I met a young American couple who were traveling around the world. They happened to be in Kenya on 9/11. Wherever they went, they were taunted by crowds of people in the street chanting "Osama! Osama!"

    What kind of human beings would do this?


    An angry aggrieved people
  • bro4bro

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    Nov 22, 2015 7:01 PM GMT
    Sorry, not good enough.
  • JackNNJ

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    Nov 22, 2015 7:02 PM GMT
    More evidence that Muslims SUCK. They're even worse than white Liberals, believe it or not.
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    Nov 22, 2015 7:06 PM GMT
    yes yes muslims and westerners do not mix, nothing new
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    Nov 22, 2015 7:18 PM GMT
    bro4bro saidSorry, not good enough.


    It wasn't meant to be good enough
  • JackNNJ

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    Nov 22, 2015 7:38 PM GMT
    bonaparts saidyes yes muslims and westerners do not mix, nothing new


    Muslims never had an Enlightenment.
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    Nov 22, 2015 7:42 PM GMT
    JackNNJ said
    bonaparts saidyes yes muslims and westerners do not mix, nothing new


    Muslims never had an Enlightenment.


    it's impossible to be enlightened if you place barbaric religion before yourself
    I don't think muslims have any values outside their book, which is sad nad laughable but it is what it is
  • wild_sky360

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    Nov 22, 2015 7:52 PM GMT
    tj85016 saidand start chanting the typical allah crap

    lol, religion of peace

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/11/17/video-turkey-fans-boo-moment-of-silence-for-paris-attacks-then-break-out-into-this-chant/


    I saw that too..had a similar reaction, then tried to figure out where it was coming from. I doubt it's a universal feeling among Muslims. It may have even involved some social coercion. I don't know. Something just doesn't sound right about the story.
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    Nov 22, 2015 7:54 PM GMT
    bonaparts said
    it's impossible to be enlightened if you place barbaric religion before yourself
    I don't think muslims fundamentalist Christians have any values outside their book, which is sad and laughable but it is what it is

    Amended.
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    Nov 22, 2015 7:56 PM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    bonaparts said
    it's impossible to be enlightened if you place barbaric religion before yourself
    I don't think muslims fundamental Christians have any values outside their book, which is sad and laughable but it is what it is

    Amended.


    why you bring christianity when I am talking about islam? want to talk about christianity make your own thread, could be more interesting than your snotty shallow vain threads about what kind of new apple product you bought
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    Nov 22, 2015 7:59 PM GMT
    bonaparts said
    Art_Deco said
    bonaparts said
    it's impossible to be enlightened if you place barbaric religion before yourself
    I don't think muslims fundamentalist Christians have any values outside their book, which is sad and laughable but it is what it is

    Amended.

    why you bring christianity when I am talking about islam? want to talk about christianity make your own thread, could be more interesting than your snotty shallow vain threads about what kind of new apple product you bought

    Because a thinking person would realize they're 2 sides of the same coin. Which no doubt is why you can't see it yourself. And giving a pass to fundamentalist Christians, while exclusively attacking all Muslims, as a bigoted generality.
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    Nov 22, 2015 8:04 PM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    bonaparts said
    Art_Deco said
    bonaparts said
    it's impossible to be enlightened if you place barbaric religion before yourself
    I don't think muslims fundamentalist Christians have any values outside their book, which is sad and laughable but it is what it is

    Amended.

    why you bring christianity when I am talking about islam? want to talk about christianity make your own thread, could be more interesting than your snotty shallow vain threads about what kind of new apple product you bought

    Because a thinking person would realize they're 2 sides of the same coin. Which no doubt is why you can't see it yourself. And giving a pass to fundamentalist Christians, while attacking all Muslims, as a generality.


    a thinking person would realize that christianity in your beloved USA is weak and christians hardly practice literally what is written in the bible, otherwise old vain and not very bright man like yourself wouldn't be able cruise yourself with your boring shallow events and be openly gay, try doing that in islamic country, while christianity and islam are similar, but at this day and age they are manifest themselves very differently in different parts of the world, also a big difference that muslims as nations are not very developed mostly due to religious extremism and while christianity has been discussed billions of times and analyzed, analyzing islam is forbidden by the quran and not many do that
  • JackNNJ

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    Nov 22, 2015 8:06 PM GMT
    bonaparts said
    Art_Deco said
    bonaparts said
    it's impossible to be enlightened if you place barbaric religion before yourself
    I don't think muslims fundamental Christians have any values outside their book, which is sad and laughable but it is what it is

    Amended.


    why you bring christianity when I am talking about islam? want to talk about christianity make your own thread, could be more interesting than your snotty shallow vain threads about what kind of new apple product you bought


    It's the usual white Liberal douchebaggery, pay it no mind.
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    Nov 22, 2015 8:34 PM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    bonaparts said
    Art_Deco said
    bonaparts said
    it's impossible to be enlightened if you place barbaric religion before yourself
    I don't think muslims fundamentalist Christians have any values outside their book, which is sad and laughable but it is what it is

    Amended.

    why you bring christianity when I am talking about islam? want to talk about christianity make your own thread, could be more interesting than your snotty shallow vain threads about what kind of new apple product you bought

    Because a thinking person would realize they're 2 sides of the same coin. Which no doubt is why you can't see it yourself. And giving a pass to fundamentalist Christians, while exclusively attacking all Muslims, as a bigoted generality.


    But again, as you said: "The significant difference is one of degree"

    "Certainly I am opposed to combative Christian fringe groups as I am to Muslims. The significant difference is one of degree. SOME Christians believe in an armed takeover of the US to impose a Bible-based government. Whereas MOST Muslims believe in the violent imposition of Islamic law.

    And those Muslims who do not actively agree with such a goal, do not actively OPPOSE it either. As compared to most Christians, who do not support a US theocracy as fundamentalist Christians and Muslims do.
    "

    I mostly agree with the above.

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    Nov 22, 2015 10:38 PM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    bonaparts said
    Art_Deco said
    bonaparts said
    it's impossible to be enlightened if you place barbaric religion before yourself
    I don't think muslims fundamentalist Christians have any values outside their book, which is sad and laughable but it is what it is

    Amended.

    why you bring christianity when I am talking about islam? want to talk about christianity make your own thread, could be more interesting than your snotty shallow vain threads about what kind of new apple product you bought

    Because a thinking person would realize they're 2 sides of the same coin. Which no doubt is why you can't see it yourself. And giving a pass to fundamentalist Christians, while exclusively attacking all Muslims, as a bigoted generality.

    If you are the thinking person you suggest yourself to be read this to understand why they are not 2 sides of the same coin and why your logic is flawed.http://www.project315.net/blog/why-so-many-in-the-west-committed-to-defending-islam-as-a-religion-of-peace

    Another good read http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/03/what-isis-really-wants/384980/
  • ursa_minor

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    Nov 23, 2015 5:04 AM GMT
    you guys got it all wrong

    http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/an-explanation-for-why-turkey-fans-appeared-to-boo-minutes-silence-for-paris-attack-victims/

    the chanting was for the victims, as it was done in the past.

    nowhere in the clip do i hear Allahu akbar
    And what they are chanting is this “Şehitler ölmez, vatan bölünmez”. Translation: “Martyrs, they do not die (they are immortal), homeland (land, our land) is indivisible.”
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    Nov 23, 2015 6:57 AM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    bonaparts said
    Art_Deco said
    bonaparts said
    it's impossible to be enlightened if you place barbaric religion before yourself
    I don't think muslims fundamentalist Christians have any values outside their book, which is sad and laughable but it is what it is

    Amended.

    why you bring christianity when I am talking about islam? want to talk about christianity make your own thread, could be more interesting than your snotty shallow vain threads about what kind of new apple product you bought

    Because a thinking person would realize they're 2 sides of the same coin. Which no doubt is why you can't see it yourself. And giving a pass to fundamentalist Christians, while exclusively attacking all Muslims, as a bigoted generality.


    When have fundamentalist Christians flown air planes into a mosque? Beheaded anyone for apostasy? Thrown a man off a building for being gay? Chopped anyone's hand off for stealing? Set fire to anyone?

    When fundamentalist Christians commit atrocities (bombing abortion clinics or murdering abortion providers) they are acting in direct defiance of the teachings of Jesus Christ. When Muslims kill someone for apostasy they are acting in accordance with what the prophet teaches them in the Qur'an to do. What's so hard about that to understand?
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    Nov 23, 2015 7:30 AM GMT
    Bad taste, true. But it's not difficult to understand the reaction, if you are able to change your perspective a bit.

    Could it be, that theyre just sick of the hypocrisy?

    There's so much horrible stuff going on around the world; places where bombings is almost part of everyday life and thousands are dying all the time - and there's no international uproar, mourning or moments of silence...

    Then, when a comparatively small number of westerners die in an attack, it's an outrage and we expect the rest of the world to mourn with us and have ceremonial moments of silence???

    As people, I think we just empathize more with those who are cuturally similar to ourselves, and that's probably natural.
    That's probably also why we as westerners don't care as much for the people dying in the middle east, and why some turkish don't care as much for the people who died in France...

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    Nov 23, 2015 8:35 AM GMT
    Ask the Armenians about Turkish hypocrisy. Turkey refuses to admit to its genocide of its ethnic Armenians in 1915 much less mourn them. icon_rolleyes.gif
  • hebrewman

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    Nov 23, 2015 1:12 PM GMT
    boorish behaviour to say the least. shame on them.
  • waccamatt

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    Nov 23, 2015 11:47 PM GMT
    JackNNJ saidMore evidence that Muslims SUCK. They're even worse than white Liberals, believe it or not.


    Are you straight? If so, just go away. If you're gay you're a disgrace.
  • FRE0

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    Nov 24, 2015 12:36 AM GMT
    bonaparts said
    JackNNJ said
    bonaparts saidyes yes muslims and westerners do not mix, nothing new


    Muslims never had an Enlightenment.


    it's impossible to be enlightened if you place barbaric religion before yourself
    I don't think muslims have any values outside their book, which is sad nad laughable but it is what it is


    If you read the following, you will find more frightening things about religion:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Reconstructionism

    Thus there are Christians in our midst who, if they could, would turn the U.S. into a theocracy under Mosaic law which would be just about as bad as Sharia.

    Incidentally, when I was working on my degree at the University of Minnesota in Minneapolis, I had an economics professor who was a Muslim. I doubt that he could have got his PhD if his values were limited to the Quran and the Hadith.