Sec. Of State John Kerry last Thursday refers to al Qaeda being already neutralized then an American Hotel in Mali is attacked the next day.

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    Nov 22, 2015 7:46 PM GMT
    "We began our fight against al Qaeda in 2001 and it took us quite a few years before we were able to eliminate Osama bin Laden and the top leadership and neutralize them as an effective force. We hope to do Daesh much faster than that and we think we have an ability to do that," he told reporters.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/19/us-franch-shooting-usa-isis-idUSKCN0T833X20151119#ES0BBIPvAA1tdfZp.97

    Then an al Qaeda affiliate group murdered at least 20 people including an American in Mali the next day:

    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/mali-hotel-terror-attack-al-qaeda-linked-extremist-group-claims-n467531
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    Nov 22, 2015 8:01 PM GMT
    mx5guynj said"We began our fight against al Qaeda in 2001 and it took us quite a few years before we were able to eliminate Osama bin Laden and the top leadership and neutralize them as an effective force. We hope to do Daesh much faster than that and we think we have an ability to do that," he told reporters.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/19/us-franch-shooting-usa-isis-idUSKCN0T833X20151119#ES0BBIPvAA1tdfZp.97

    Then an al Qaeda affiliate group murdered at least 20 people including an American in Mali the next day:

    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/mali-hotel-terror-attack-al-qaeda-linked-extremist-group-claims-n467531


    al Qaeda is pretty much a shell of it's former self. Daesh (aka ISIS/ISIL) has taken over it's terrorism.

    We give a lot of credit to Daesh when killing 200 people. That's what terrorism is about; kill a few and affect millions. That al Qaeda killed 10% of that, and hasn't claimed responsibility for much if anything in the last few years tells of it's strength.

    Are they a problem? Of course. They are a menace that must be stopped. There are groups and individuals like Timothy McVeigh.....our local terrorists. Christianity and Islam is their window dressing, their excuse to kill.
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    Nov 23, 2015 9:51 AM GMT
    I get a chuckle out of people who make comparisons between individuals like Timothy McVeigh and Dylan Roof to organizations like ISIS and al Qaeda.
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    Nov 23, 2015 4:19 PM GMT
    I get a sad chuckle out of the notion that Obama has somehow failed because horrible people do some horrible things abroad. It must feel nice to pin anything bad that happens on him.

    Meanwhile, the US military has run thousands of bombing missions with assistance from the air forces of half a dozen other countries for over a year, and regularly kills leaders of al Quaida and ISIS. But seemingly no one knows or cares, or even acknoweldges that we've been part of a war over there for years.

    I feel like no one pays attention when counter-terrorism and military operations are run well, so anything bad that happens, and the NSA's activities generally, are intolerable. But when thousands were killed in the US, thousands more US military were killed at war, or came home maimed or injured, the NSA eavesdropped on the content of any phone call or email, people talked about how we had "strong leadership." The actual results suggest it's exactly the other way around.
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    Nov 23, 2015 11:24 PM GMT
    John Kerry broke his leg while out saving the environment in Europe. He's a moron.
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    Nov 24, 2015 1:12 AM GMT
    JackNNJ saidJohn Kerry broke his leg while out saving the environment in Europe. He's a moron.
    I nominate you for Secretary of State. You'd do a better job, of course, because your clearly superior intellect has insulated you from broken limbs.
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    Nov 24, 2015 4:54 AM GMT
    mickeytopogigio said
    JackNNJ saidJohn Kerry broke his leg while out saving the environment in Europe. He's a moron.
    I nominate you for Secretary of State. You'd do a better job, of course, because your clearly superior intellect has insulated you from broken limbs.


    You think Kerry has done a good job?
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    Nov 24, 2015 4:35 PM GMT
    Let's see:

    Negotiated for Syria to give up chemical weapons, without a shot having to be fired - check.

    Negotiated for Iran to give up its nuclear weaponizing program without a a shot having to be fired - check.

    Negotiated for Russia to halt invasion of Ukraine and end hostilities there, without committing US troops there - check.

    Created the coalition of Arab and Western countries bombing ISIS - check.

    Found a way to support Iraqi ground forces to take back land Iraq lost to ISIS, but without committing US troops to yet another Iraqi war - check.

    Negotiated for China to reduce carbon emissions, which everyone had assumed it would never do - check.

    Negotiated (with our Trade Negotiator, presume) a conclusion to the Trans Pacific Partnership, containing China while also imposing Western style labor and environmental protections on our economic competitors in Asia - check.

    All while dealing with a broken FEMUR after a fall when biking the Alps, which I find kinda badass. So yes, I think Kerry has done a pretty good job. What would you have done?
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    Nov 24, 2015 6:35 PM GMT
    UndercoverMan saidI get a chuckle out of people who make comparisons between individuals like Timothy McVeigh and Dylan Roof to organizations like ISIS and al Qaeda.


    Is Daesh not a group of terrorist conspirators?
  • tj85016

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    Nov 24, 2015 7:08 PM GMT
    this blowhard idiot really needs to retire

    Kerry hasn't done a god damn thing besides toot his own egomaniacal horn