Nov 25, 2015 6:28 AM GMT
CDC Says 1 in 4 Gay Men Should Be on PrEP
http://www.towleroad.com/2015/11/cdc-says-1-in-4-gay-men-should-be-on-prep/
http://www.towleroad.com/2015/11/cdc-says-1-in-4-gay-men-should-be-on-prep/
metta saidCDC Says 1 in 4 Gay Men Should Be on PrEP
http://www.towleroad.com/2015/11/cdc-says-1-in-4-gay-men-should-be-on-prep/
Sydneyrugbyjock73 said
The message of PrEP as an extra tool is commendable, but (PrEP) it's going to become a lost opportunity if the message that it's OK to sleep with as many people as you can become a normalized part of mainstream Gay culture.
metta saidCDC Says 1 in 4 Gay Men Should Be on PrEP
http://www.towleroad.com/2015/11/cdc-says-1-in-4-gay-men-should-be-on-prep/
bro4bro saidThe article also says PrEP decreases HIV transmission by "70 to 90 percent". Taking the lowball figure, 30% chance of contracting HIV doesn't sound too attractive to me - it sure wouldn't make me quit using a condom!
I was contacted on Grindr the other day by a guy who bragged he's "Vers and on PrEP" - I guess he was saying he takes it raw. I responded that I'm drug free. He seemed confused - told me he doesn't do recreational drugs either (except for the one that lets him bareback worry-free, I guess).
S34n05 saidbro4bro saidThe article also says PrEP decreases HIV transmission by "70 to 90 percent". Taking the lowball figure, 30% chance of contracting HIV doesn't sound too attractive to me - it sure wouldn't make me quit using a condom!
I was contacted on Grindr the other day by a guy who bragged he's "Vers and on PrEP" - I guess he was saying he takes it raw. I responded that I'm drug free. He seemed confused - told me he doesn't do recreational drugs either (except for the one that lets him bareback worry-free, I guess).
They say it reduces it by 92% actually (though I've also read 96% from other sources). The 70% you quoted from the article is regarding needle injections, not sex.
Condoms reduce it by ~85%. You can still get HIV using a condom.
"Condoms used 100% of the time, though not necessarily 100% perfectly (i.e. with usual rates of breakage and slippage) provide protection of 80 to 85% against HIV (uncertainty range: 76 to 93%). In other words, for every 100 cases of HIV infection that would happen without condom use, about 15 (range: 7 to 24) would happen when condoms are used consistently."
http://www.aidsmap.com/Do-condoms-work/page/1746203/
Your best protection against HIV it to be on Prep and use a condom (outside of abstaining from sex).
Sydneyrugbyjock73 saidS34n05 saidbro4bro saidThe article also says PrEP decreases HIV transmission by "70 to 90 percent". Taking the lowball figure, 30% chance of contracting HIV doesn't sound too attractive to me - it sure wouldn't make me quit using a condom!
I was contacted on Grindr the other day by a guy who bragged he's "Vers and on PrEP" - I guess he was saying he takes it raw. I responded that I'm drug free. He seemed confused - told me he doesn't do recreational drugs either (except for the one that lets him bareback worry-free, I guess).
They say it reduces it by 92% actually (though I've also read 96% from other sources). The 70% you quoted from the article is regarding needle injections, not sex.
Condoms reduce it by ~85%. You can still get HIV using a condom.
"Condoms used 100% of the time, though not necessarily 100% perfectly (i.e. with usual rates of breakage and slippage) provide protection of 80 to 85% against HIV (uncertainty range: 76 to 93%). In other words, for every 100 cases of HIV infection that would happen without condom use, about 15 (range: 7 to 24) would happen when condoms are used consistently."
http://www.aidsmap.com/Do-condoms-work/page/1746203/
Your best protection against HIV it to be on Prep and use a condom (outside of abstaining from sex).
Where is your source of the outright deliberate misinformation about condom use preventing HIV. Please also declare your percentage of stock in the Gillead Company. Condom failure rates you quote would look so much different when you provide the qualifying information like for instance, it's based on self reporting, an inaccurate way of gauging anything at best
timmm55 said. Yet the scientific evidence in support of PrEP now appears irrefutable:
Several independent studies have made it absolutely clear that PrEP works — and not just in clinical trials. In cities like San Francisco, Miami, and Washington D.C., it’s been shown that when given the drug in community healthcare settings, most people will be good about taking it properly, and thus face a near-zero chance of contracting the virus.
Did anyone READ the article?
Art_Deco saidtimmm55 said. Yet the scientific evidence in support of PrEP now appears irrefutable:
Several independent studies have made it absolutely clear that PrEP works — and not just in clinical trials. In cities like San Francisco, Miami, and Washington D.C., it’s been shown that when given the drug in community healthcare settings, most people will be good about taking it properly, and thus face a near-zero chance of contracting the virus.
Did anyone READ the article?
Not only did a number of us read the article, we COMPREHENDED it, objectively. As well as similar linked material posted here. Without applying a personal agenda to distort and misrepresent the findings. You might try doing the same.
Sydneyrugbyjock73 saidStudies show people who want to prove their own opinion ... blah blah blah (Kesha). [this is not an academic study so I will not be quoting APA style or Harvard style].
That approach in an opinion based forums setting smacks of desperation so Timm55 please appreciate that your selective quoting and glaring ommisions of qualifying context which change the complexion of the arguement.
Truth is Timm55 can say he is for condom and Prep together but he keeps slipping up. That's when the truth comes out that he wants to have an environment with HIV Neg guys willing to engage in BB sex. Despite everything buddy you just cant help yourself. The evidence doesn't need posting because people can look through your forum responses.
Only just yesterday at my 3 monthly test (rapid test says HIV NEG) and I have been open about being very sexually active and with guys who are openly HIV poz. I take the precautions that certain RJ Members like to pretend don't work or are less effective.
Let's have a real conversation about condom use/non-use in the community. My guess is Timm55 and others are not going to want the fact based studies being entered into this discussion.
PS Timm55 is the most vocal not the only one who thinks the same way
timmm55 said
If you are actively having sex with POZ men (not Undetectable) and only using condoms....you are a fool.
FitBlackCuddler saidtimmm55 said
If you are actively having sex with POZ men (not Undetectable) and only using condoms....you are a fool.
I agree...and will take it further: ANY sexual antic with a POZ person involving the ass or the cock where there is fluid exchange, regardless of the circumstances is foolish. Sexual activity based on statistics in a medical journal/treatise isn't enough to risk the dramatic shift in the quality of life that HIV brings.