Daschle withdraws as HHS nominee...what's with these people not paying their taxes?

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    Feb 03, 2009 8:05 PM GMT
    "Daschle's resignation came hours after Nancy Killefer's withdrawal as Obama's chief performance officer, a new post in the administration.

    Officials said privately the reason for Killefer's withdrawal was unspecified tax issues. ... "

    http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/02/03/daschle/index.html

    And when these people do pay up, they arent being charged any penalties. What's with that? If it were happening to any ordinary person, there would be interest and penalities piled high on the overdue taxes.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Feb 03, 2009 8:09 PM GMT
    I noticed the events of the day as well. I think it was probably a prudent idea for the withdrawals. An embarassment, but if Obama wants to follow an appropriate course of action regarding the appointees, I think it needed to happen. Without.. I think some degree of respect is lost.
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    Feb 03, 2009 8:13 PM GMT
    Wow I thought he was going to get in. Probably a good idea. Its hypocritical for these guys to lead when they have no integrity.
    Tax fraud is a common occurrence.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Feb 03, 2009 9:11 PM GMT
    Yes, this is proving a real strange scenario with all these people having tax issues. I don't get it --- we are suppose to just accept their heart-felt "apology" and just let it go as "an oversight" on their part, but if it was any average American forgetting to pay hundreds of thousands in taxes, we'd be fine to the hilt, maybe even convicted of tax evasion.
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    Feb 03, 2009 9:11 PM GMT
    I should jump all over the liberal belief that "we' need to fund the
    liberal social agenda..the "we" not meaning "them" but instead, since i'm having tax problems myself, I would say that the the tax code is so unbelievably complex that nobody can be responsible for complying with it.
    I spent 2 hrs with the irs last week ..they admitted they couldn't answer my questions.


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    Feb 03, 2009 9:12 PM GMT
    Lock em up. Where's the change we can live with?
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    Feb 03, 2009 9:19 PM GMT
    Caslon8000 said"Daschle's resignation came hours after Nancy Killefer's withdrawal as Obama's chief performance officer, a new post in the administration.

    Officials said privately the reason for Killefer's withdrawal was unspecified tax issues. ... "

    http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/02/03/daschle/index.html

    And when these people do pay up, they arent being charged any penalties. What's with that? If it were happening to any ordinary person, there would be interest and penalities piled high on the overdue taxes.
    Tom Daschle paid his taxes, plus over $11,000 in interest.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/daschle_taxes
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    Feb 03, 2009 9:22 PM GMT
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    Caslon8000 said"Daschle's resignation came hours after Nancy Killefer's withdrawal as Obama's chief performance officer, a new post in the administration.

    Officials said privately the reason for Killefer's withdrawal was unspecified tax issues. ... "

    http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/02/03/daschle/index.html

    And when these people do pay up, they arent being charged any penalties. What's with that? If it were happening to any ordinary person, there would be interest and penalities piled high on the overdue taxes.
    Tom Daschle paid his taxes, plus over $11,000 in interest.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/daschle_taxes

    Oh good....last night on the news they were saying, interest and penalties werent being applied.
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    Feb 03, 2009 9:23 PM GMT
    BYE,BYE,BYE!
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    Feb 03, 2009 9:41 PM GMT
    I get pissed off when I hear about this. That is a very natural reaction for anyone who does not make millions and pays their fair share.

    But I am concerned about who will be nominated instead. Many progressives feel Daschle was the ideal man for the job considering his past work in the senate and his commitment to health care reform. Fixing health care has to be a top priority because exploding costs to individuals and businesses is really doing a number on the economy.
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    Feb 03, 2009 9:47 PM GMT
    Maybe he's suggesting that if we don't pay our taxes, we'll have more money to pay for health care. Just a thought.
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    Feb 03, 2009 10:02 PM GMT

    While under-paying income tax is a long way from admirable, I was more concerned about Daschle accepting the free car and driver than I was about the tax issue. It's pretty much a given that senators and congressmen accept substantial gifts in kind from constituents. That in my view is a bigger problem than some overdue taxes. If things are ever going to change for the better in Washington, politicians need to pull away from the money tits of lobbyists and wealthy donors. Daschle's sense of entitlement was so apparent that I very much doubt he would have been the person who can lead the sorting out of America's health care system. Given the vast (and vastly wealthy) group's who will weigh in on the health care debate, the person who is at the head of trying sort it all out must be scrupulously independent and seen to be so.
  • TexanMan82

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    Feb 03, 2009 10:12 PM GMT
    This concerns me regarding Obama. Some aides need to be fired over this. Who is researching the candidates?
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    Feb 03, 2009 10:16 PM GMT
    flieslikeabeagle said
    While under-paying income tax is a long way from admirable, I was more concerned about Daschle accepting the free car and driver than I was about the tax issue. It's pretty much a given that senators and congressmen accept substantial gifts in kind from constituents. That in my view is a bigger problem than some overdue taxes. If things are ever going to change for the better in Washington, politicians need to pull away from the money tits of lobbyists and wealthy donors. Daschle's sense of entitlement was so apparent that I very much doubt he would have been the person who can lead the sorting out of America's health care system. Given the vast (and vastly wealthy) group's who will weigh in on the health care debate, the person who is at the head of trying sort it all out must be scrupulously independent and seen to be so.

    Wasnt Daschle out of office when the car and driver were provided?
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    Feb 03, 2009 10:20 PM GMT
    TexanMan82 saidThis concerns me regarding Obama. Some aides need to be fired over this. Who is researching the candidates?


    All of this information comes out during the vetting process. So Obama's aides are doing their job by uncovering this stuff before the actual confirmation hearings.
  • coolarmydude

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    Feb 03, 2009 10:33 PM GMT
    I have a confession to make. This tax season, I have to file for my last three year's taxes.

    But I had automatic and requested extensions due to overseas/deployment reasons. Unfortunately, I missed out on the rebate check last year.
  • TexanMan82

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    Feb 03, 2009 10:39 PM GMT
    MunchingZombie said
    TexanMan82 saidThis concerns me regarding Obama. Some aides need to be fired over this. Who is researching the candidates?


    All of this information comes out during the vetting process. So Obama's aides are doing their job by uncovering this stuff before the actual confirmation hearings.


    I'm still calling a fail on Obama's part. All of this information should be known BEFORE he makes an official nomination. It makes him look bad after the fact.
  • SeaMichael

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    Feb 03, 2009 10:43 PM GMT
    coolarmydude saidI have a confession to make. This tax season, I have to file for my last three year's taxes.

    But I had automatic and requested extensions due to overseas/deployment reasons. Unfortunately, I missed out on the rebate check last year.


    HA! But you get to apply that missed rebate to your taxes THIS year.

    I'm waiting to file until the stimulus is passed. Turns out I owe this year, and if I know one thing, there's a chance they'll make some of the tax cuts retroactive. Don't get me wrong, I have no problem paying my taxes, but I'm not that high up the bracket ladder.

    True fact - in the 1950's (if memory serves), the top tax bracket went as high as 70% (maybe a bit more). That was under a REPUBLICAN administration, I might add. neat.
  • SeaMichael

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    Feb 03, 2009 10:45 PM GMT
    TexanMan82 said
    MunchingZombie said
    TexanMan82 saidThis concerns me regarding Obama. Some aides need to be fired over this. Who is researching the candidates?


    All of this information comes out during the vetting process. So Obama's aides are doing their job by uncovering this stuff before the actual confirmation hearings.


    I'm still calling a fail on Obama's part. All of this information should be known BEFORE he makes an official nomination. It makes him look bad after the fact.


    Of course, the vetting process only allows so much information to be found out. And in Daschle's case, the hearings had already begun, I believe. It really depends on the people that are being vetted to be honest. Of course, the Richardson blunder was the worst - his "problems" had been known all year long.

    Maybe now Sen. Obama will recognize that Dr. Dean really deserves a cabinet post, and belongs at HHS. Probably not (stupid Emmanuel), but one can hope.

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    Feb 03, 2009 10:59 PM GMT
    I find his history of lobbying for the insurance and health care industries far more troubling than the tax matter. Why in the world would you put a health insurance lobbyist in charge of health care reform? Because you have no real intention of reforming the system?

    Read Glenn Greenwald:

    http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/02/01/daschle/index.html

    CuriousJockI don't get it --- we are suppose to just accept their heart-felt "apology" and just let it go as "an oversight" on their part, but if it was any average American forgetting to pay hundreds of thousands in taxes, we'd be fine to the hilt, maybe even convicted of tax evasion.


    Yep, we imprison more citizens than any country on the planet for silly violations like marijuana smoking. Meanwhile our political class insists that we not even investigate the crimes of the Bush administration in order to "move on."

    The political class reserves for itself the right to violate all kinds of laws, regardless of party affiliation.
  • TexanMan82

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    Feb 03, 2009 11:05 PM GMT
    I agree, Obscene
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    Feb 03, 2009 11:17 PM GMT
    Daschle should have withdrawn his name even sooner. I used to like Daschle and I was disappointed when he lost his Senate seat, but his criminal evasion hurts the Administration. I am also disappointed because Geithner was confirmed. He too should have withdrawn his name. When the Administration promotes these idiots to these positions, they're just giving Republicans ammunition in order to attack Democrats and the Administration.

    This stuff is not rocket science and perhaps the Administration needs to look outside the circle of insiders for talent.

    Is it just me, or is it really NOT obvious?
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    Feb 03, 2009 11:25 PM GMT
    Also, I cannot stand Senator Reid, the Senate Majority Leader. He's so wimpy and immersed in cronyism; I wish he would go back to Nevada and put on his magic underwear.
  • pcsean28

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    Feb 03, 2009 11:44 PM GMT
    ObsceneWish saidI find his history of lobbying for the insurance and health care industries far more troubling than the tax matter. Why in the world would you put a health insurance lobbyist in charge of health care reform? Because you have no real intention of reforming the system?

    Read Glenn Greenwald:

    http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/02/01/daschle/index.html

    CuriousJockI don't get it --- we are suppose to just accept their heart-felt "apology" and just let it go as "an oversight" on their part, but if it was any average American forgetting to pay hundreds of thousands in taxes, we'd be fine to the hilt, maybe even convicted of tax evasion.


    Yep, we imprison more citizens than any country on the planet for silly violations like marijuana smoking. Meanwhile our political class insists that we not even investigate the crimes of the Bush administration in order to "move on."

    The political class reserves for itself the right to violate all kinds of laws, regardless of party affiliation.


    Thank you for bringing Glenn Greenwald into the convo. The guy is brilliant. He's a major part of the reason I want to become a lawyer.
  • pcsean28

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    Feb 03, 2009 11:54 PM GMT
    dfrw saidAlso, I cannot stand Senator Reid, the Senate Majority Leader. He's so wimpy and immersed in cronyism; I wish he would go back to Nevada and put on his magic underwear.


    I totally agree... how do weenies like Reid and Pelosi become the leaders of their party, yet clear minded, aggressive senators like Feingold and Sanders are on the fringe?? What the fuck is wrong with these people? Who the fuck is voting for them??

    Whenever I watch CSPAN I'm reminded of this onion article.

    http://www.theonion.com/content/news/town_hall_meeting_gives