U.S. Marine jailed in Philippines for killing transgender woman

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    Dec 01, 2015 9:41 AM GMT
    http://news.yahoo.com/u-marine-jailed-philippines-killing-transgender-woman-082649325.html
  • JackNNJ

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    Dec 01, 2015 2:30 PM GMT
    He just wanted his money back, that's all.
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    Dec 01, 2015 4:22 PM GMT
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Jennifer_Laude
    On December 1, 2015, the Olongapo Regional Trial Court found Pemberton guilty of homicide with two mitigating circumstances in the death of Laude and sentenced him to 6 to 12 years in jail.[19] Homicide is a lesser charge than murder.[19] The court said that "The killing of Laude amounted only to homicide" and did not meet the standards for murder.[19] Pemberton, in the court's view, acted out of "passion and obfuscation".[19] The court said about Pemberton that "in the heat of passion, he arm-locked the deceased, and dunked his (her) head in the toilet."[


    I'm not a criminologist or forensic psychologist or whoever it is with the training and experience to analyze these circumstances, but as a layperson I'd think of a crime of passion as one involving acting in the moment.

    At what point does an action become reflective and not merely reflexive?

    Because even if there was no definite hesitation which would have allowed time to weigh results of actions, I'd think that by the time you dragged your victim from one room to the next--drowning someone in a toilet bowl seems hardly random at all, in fact, it seems pretty fucking specific--you'd have been able to see through the passion clearly enough to witness your own actions, at which point is not stopping yourself still a matter of passion or a contemplated decision, results be damned?
  • FRE0

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    Dec 02, 2015 12:26 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidHe should have gotten a murder conviction.

    He's getting off too easily.

    But...!

    If he was fearful of having gay sex before he'll more than likely have to face his fears now while in prison for six to twelve years.


    It's unclear whether he will survive prison. In poor countries, prisons commonly have very poor food and sanitation and the death rate is high.
  • jeepguySD

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    Dec 02, 2015 1:26 AM GMT
    Among other things, this incident reflects a failure of leadership in this Marine's chain of command. Anyone who has done a WESTPAC deployment should know that transvestites throughout Asia, especially in the Philippines and Thailand, seek out US service members while they're out on liberty. If this Marine was truly surprised (as he claimed) that the chick was actually a dude, then his leadership failed to educate him prior to liberty. This does not excuse his over-reaction, and it certainly does not excuse the killing of the victim, but I hope that his chain of command was held accountable for their failure.
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    Dec 02, 2015 5:00 AM GMT
    I don't understand the defendant's argument--i.e., that he choked the transgender because he was acting in self-defense. Was he being attacked? It sounds like he was being pleasured. Of course he didn't deserve to be deceived (assuming that's what happened), but the transgender didn't deserve to die for that deception.
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    Dec 02, 2015 7:27 AM GMT
    DOMINUS saidI don't understand the defendant's argument--i.e., that he choked the transgender because he was acting in self-defense. Was he being attacked? It sounds like he was being pleasured. Of course he didn't deserve to be deceived (assuming that's what happened), but the transgender didn't deserve to die for that deception.


    He was acting in self-defense; he was defending his fragile ego.