For San Bernardino shooting victim's boyfriend, 22 hours of conflicting reports, then heartbreak

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    Dec 04, 2015 3:46 AM GMT

    Not since 9/11, have we lost one of our own, he was one of two that were not county employees, he ran the coffee shop



    http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-san-bernardino-daniel-kaufman-boyfriend-20151203-story.html


    Ryan Reyes, 32, center, breaks down after finding out his boyfriend of nearly three years, Daniel Kaufman, 42, was one of those killed during Wednesday's mass shooting at the Inland Regional Center


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  • Triggerman

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    Dec 04, 2015 4:26 AM GMT
    California has gun laws. Lot's of them. What laws do we need?

  • Triggerman

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    Dec 04, 2015 4:29 AM GMT
    Gun laws that say we can't sell to a young Middle Eastern guy or girl?
  • Triggerman

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    Dec 04, 2015 4:30 AM GMT
    are you racist?
  • MarvelBoy23

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    Dec 04, 2015 3:14 PM GMT
    He was being sarcastic. Cali has THE most strict gun laws in the nation. Proving gun laws will truly do nothing in the end.
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    Dec 04, 2015 3:50 PM GMT
    Condolences to Ryan.

    Liberals: Since pipe bombs were involved, you need to outlaw pipes to so we'll be returning to this technology:

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    Dec 04, 2015 4:26 PM GMT
    We cannot outlaw pipe bombs as that is part of Islamic culture. It's religious freedom.....ya know?
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    Dec 04, 2015 5:17 PM GMT
    Yeah, my friends in California always found it weird that we in Texas carry around guns. I'm sorry, when a state chooses to "disarm" it's citizens from the right to carry, these rampages get out of control, at the expense of innocent lives.

    Cheers,

    Sean
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    Dec 04, 2015 5:57 PM GMT
    Now that we know the attack was ISIS inspired, Ryan was likely a primary target since ISIS has vowed to exterminate gays.

    San Bernardino shooter pledged allegiance to an Islamic State leader on Facebook, authorities say:
    http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-san-bernardino-shooting-isis-20151204-story.html

    So much for workplace violence Barack.
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    Dec 04, 2015 6:11 PM GMT
    mx5guynj saidNow that we know the attack was ISIS inspired, Ryan was likely a primary target since ISIS has vowed to exterminate gays.

    Oh, like US Republican supporters have?
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    Dec 04, 2015 6:40 PM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    mx5guynj saidNow that we know the attack was ISIS inspired, Ryan was likely a primary target since ISIS has vowed to exterminate gays.

    Oh, like US Republican supporters have?


    Here's Obama with his "Good Friend" the Sultan of Brunei who passed a law to execute gays by stoning:


    Obama has rewarded the Billionaire Sultan with a free trade deal.

    Hillary has accepted cash and over $50K in jewelry from the Sultan who threw a dinner in her honor:
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  • MarvelBoy23

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    Dec 04, 2015 7:40 PM GMT
    Lets ALL be honest. There is NO balance in either party. Too far left is just as bad as too far right.

    The fact of the matter is this: Until we end the reign of "career politicians" we will never get past any of this.
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    Dec 04, 2015 8:35 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    ELNathB said
    Not since 9/11, have we lost one of our own, he was one of two that were not county employees, he ran the coffee shop



    http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-san-bernardino-daniel-kaufman-boyfriend-20151203-story.html


    Ryan Reyes, 32, center, breaks down after finding out his boyfriend of nearly three years, Daniel Kaufman, 42, was one of those killed during Wednesday's mass shooting at the Inland Regional Center


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    The definition of a crim

    If only California had gun control laws.... sigh.

    The definition of a criminal is someone that does not obey " laws". Besides they had bombs in their apartment.
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    Dec 04, 2015 8:58 PM GMT
    GTPSean saidYeah, my friends in California always found it weird that we in Texas carry around guns. I'm sorry, when a state chooses to "disarm" it's citizens from the right to carry, these rampages get out of control, at the expense of innocent lives.

    Cheers,

    Sean



    Yeah but to be fair, Texas has a higher gun murder rate than California....they're just spread out rather than a mass shooting like this. If the answer is to walk around armed to kill I'd rather just move to a more civilized country. Texas is a bunch of gun toting screwballs. No thanks.

    The answer is not MORE guns.
  • David3K

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    Dec 04, 2015 10:19 PM GMT
    MarvelBoy23 saidHe was being sarcastic. Cali has THE most strict gun laws in the nation. Proving gun laws will truly do nothing in the end.


    That's ridiculous. Take a look at the rest of the civilized world that dont have so much guns like in USA. Not having proper gun control laws is a big problem but people inside the country cant see it because for them the gun culture they live in is normal. However in this case I dont think gun laws would have changed anything as this was clearly planned.
  • JackNNJ

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    Dec 05, 2015 3:47 AM GMT
    Yes, it's sad. But please stop this cloying bullshit. If the guy hadn't been shot, we'd never have heard of him or his BF. Now that there's been tragedy, they've been conferred victim-as-hero status.

    This is your most insulting post to date.
  • waccamatt

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    Dec 05, 2015 3:54 AM GMT
    MarvelBoy23 saidHe was being sarcastic. Cali has THE most strict gun laws in the nation. Proving gun laws will truly do nothing in the end.


    Gun laws will only be effective if they cover the entire country.
  • Apparition

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    Dec 05, 2015 4:36 AM GMT
    They could make gun control much more effective. Simply pass a law that it is LEGAL to STEAL guns from any corporation or civilian. Guns would become insanely difficult to find anymore. Stores would not be able to sell them due to losses, although technically they would have the right to so NRA is worked around. And people would have to lock them up better to protect them (thus making them almost useless), whilst the organized rings would put them in a nice centralized location (for later easier collection and disposal).
  • JackNNJ

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    Dec 05, 2015 5:08 AM GMT
    The killers' neighbors saw them bringing questionable materiel in to their dwelling, and observed them behaving suspiciously. But, largely due to the self-righteous harangues and lectures of white Liberals since 9/11(*ahem* New York Times), these people were afraid to speak up, lest someone think them "racist" or "bigoted" or "Islamophobic."

    FUCK THAT. As his Most Christian and Fabulous Excellency Lord Milo hath said:

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  • JackNNJ

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    Dec 05, 2015 5:16 AM GMT
    Triggerman saidGun laws that say we can't sell to a young Middle Eastern guy or girl?


    I make a case that that no one from a Muslim background or who has a Muslim-sounding name should be allowed to buy a gun; any non-citizen with a Muzzie-sounding name who is found with a gun, or attempts to obtain one, should be taken into custody immediately

    What's not to like, white liberals? My proposal is gun control, after all.
  • JackNNJ

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    Dec 05, 2015 12:47 PM GMT
    Radd said
    GTPSean saidYeah, my friends in California always found it weird that we in Texas carry around guns. I'm sorry, when a state chooses to "disarm" it's citizens from the right to carry, these rampages get out of control, at the expense of innocent lives.

    Cheers,

    Sean



    Yeah but to be fair, Texas has a higher gun murder rate than California....they're just spread out rather than a mass shooting like this. If the answer is to walk around armed to kill I'd rather just move to a more civilized country. Texas is a bunch of gun toting screwballs. No thanks.

    The answer is not MORE guns.


    The answer is LESS white Liberals.
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    Dec 05, 2015 8:03 PM GMT
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    Art_Deco said
    mx5guynj saidNow that we know the attack was ISIS inspired, Ryan was likely a primary target since ISIS has vowed to exterminate gays.

    Oh, like US Republican supporters have?


    Happy hour has begun a bit early up in Wilton Manors today... icon_rolleyes.gif


    However many drinks Artless may pound down, I doubt if he's ever very happy. The best evidence is in his ridiculously self-aggrandizing posts.
  • TroyAthlete

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    Dec 07, 2015 6:27 AM GMT
    JackNNJ said
    Triggerman saidGun laws that say we can't sell to a young Middle Eastern guy or girl?


    I make a case that that no one from a Muslim background or who has a Muslim-sounding name should be allowed to buy a gun; any non-citizen with a Muzzie-sounding name who is found with a gun, or attempts to obtain one, should be taken into custody immediately

    What's not to like, white liberals? My proposal is gun control, after all.


    Another un-American gay racist. And, shock of shocks, he's an unattractive, lonely white male nearing retirement age.

    #rinsewashrepeat
  • TroyAthlete

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    Dec 07, 2015 8:10 AM GMT
    Sam27 saidI really don't think he is an American.


    Let's hope not, posting such nonsense as "let's bar the Constitution from applying to American Muslims" right wing bullcrap.
  • metta

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    Dec 09, 2015 6:55 AM GMT
    Gay man killed in San Bernardino massacre saved 4 people


    http://thepridela.com/2015/12/gay-man-killed-in-san-bernadino-massacre-saved-4-people/