Is this proof trans people existed and were accepted 2,500 years ago?

  • metta

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    Dec 04, 2015 7:19 AM GMT
    Is this proof trans people existed and were accepted 2,500 years ago?

    New DNA analysis reveals a skeleton of a warrior buried 2,500 years ago was a trans woman


    http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/is-this-proof-trans-people-existed-and-were-accepted-2500-years-ago/#gs.ukPqIwE
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    Dec 04, 2015 4:23 PM GMT
    Paul Brownsey ยท University of Glasgow

    "Alternatively, one of the "elite corps of warriors" might have been buried in women's things as a punishment for cowardice. The horses *may* suggest the aim was to honour rather than to shame, but we should be wary of reading our own preoccupations into the past on the basis of slender evidence."
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    Dec 04, 2015 5:19 PM GMT
    What was that about Occam's razor again, metta?
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    Dec 04, 2015 5:45 PM GMT
    2,500 years ago? It's true, I was there icon_eek.gificon_eek.gificon_eek.gificon_eek.gif
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    Dec 04, 2015 8:50 PM GMT
    MGINSD saidWhat was that about Occam's razor again, metta?



    It's true. We can barely successfully speculate on the customs of humans 300 years ago, even with written documents to guide us, but we're expected to believe we can say what the social norms of people living 2,500 years ago were? icon_confused.gif
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    Dec 04, 2015 10:35 PM GMT
    Ancient agricultural communities survived by their practical knowledge of all aspects of what we call sex. They called it animal breeding. A child from that era would never need to ask where babies came from. Within that practical knowledge base sexual behavior we have become uptight about or call abnormal intellectually was commonly observed and even used advantageously. It's our "modern" attitudes that are out of sync with reality. Google intersexed Goats.
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    Dec 05, 2015 12:24 AM GMT
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    Interesting find, especially accompanied by all those horses. I'd imagine they didn't part with them for just anyone because I think this was in the days before the convenience of uber-horse. It's not like you could just get on your app and dial up a chariot.
  • JackNNJ

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    Dec 05, 2015 1:36 AM GMT
    There has been a veritable tranny explosion the past year or so. Trannies have jumped way ahead of everyone else - pissing off all quarters of the nut fudge fringe white Liberal Left, especially the lez-feminists.

    The first group to be dumped are gay white males. That's right fellaz, we're now no better than our straight brethren. We're really just "CISgendered"-males who dress a hair more fabulously.

    Most of you are oblivious to this fact, as you seem to be stuck in 1996 or thereabouts. Embark on a close reading of the screaming femmofascists, and you'll see it immediately.

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  • JackNNJ

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    Dec 05, 2015 2:08 AM GMT
    SHE'S SO BLOODY STUPID, SHE MISSPELLED HER OWN TWITTER NAME.

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  • FRE0

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    Dec 05, 2015 8:12 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree said2,500 years ago? It's true, I was there icon_eek.gificon_eek.gificon_eek.gificon_eek.gif


    You vampire!!
  • FRE0

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    Dec 05, 2015 8:17 PM GMT
    JackNNJ saidThere has been a veritable tranny explosion the past year or so. Trannies have jumped way ahead of everyone else - pissing off all quarters of the nut fudge fringe white Liberal Left, especially the lez-feminists.

    The first group to be dumped are gay white males. That's right fellaz, we're now no better than our straight brethren. We're really just "CISgendered"-males who dress a hair more fabulously.

    Most of you are oblivious to this fact, as you seem to be stuck in 1996 or thereabouts. Embark on a close reading of the screaming femmofascists, and you'll see it immediately.

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    Obviously you are using a few carefully selected examples as proof of what the majority of feminists think. Anyone who has studied statistics would immediately see the fallacy.
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    Dec 05, 2015 9:28 PM GMT
    FRE0 said
    freedomisntfree said2,500 years ago? It's true, I was there icon_eek.gificon_eek.gificon_eek.gificon_eek.gif


    You vampire!!


    That's why I like this song so much

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    Dec 05, 2015 11:19 PM GMT
    One needn't go back 2,500 years or cross continents to find transsexuals, transgenders, trannies, or whatever the hell they're currently, loudly, insufferably, calling themselves. The tradition of the berdaches among some American Indian tribes was well known to the civilized white men who encountered and documented them; to the gay media, apparently not at all.icon_rolleyes.gif
  • JackNNJ

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    Dec 06, 2015 7:13 AM GMT
    Alpha13 saidAncient agricultural communities survived by their practical knowledge of all aspects of what we call sex. They called it animal breeding. A child from that era would never need to ask where babies came from. Within that practical knowledge base sexual behavior we have become uptight about or call abnormal intellectually was commonly observed and even used advantageously. It's our "modern" attitudes that are out of sync with reality. Google intersexed Goats.


    But we are in sync with our present reality. We have the luxury of treating sex as recreation, unlike our ancestors. As for intersexed goats, I'll likely not Google it...
  • JackNNJ

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    Dec 06, 2015 7:31 AM GMT
    FRE0 said
    JackNNJ saidThere has been a veritable tranny explosion the past year or so. Trannies have jumped way ahead of everyone else - pissing off all quarters of the nut fudge fringe white Liberal Left, especially the lez-feminists.

    The first group to be dumped are gay white males. That's right fellaz, we're now no better than our straight brethren. We're really just "CISgendered"-males who dress a hair more fabulously.

    Most of you are oblivious to this fact, as you seem to be stuck in 1996 or thereabouts. Embark on a close reading of the screaming femmofascists, and you'll see it immediately.

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    Obviously you are using a few carefully selected examples as proof of what the majority of feminists think. Anyone who has studied statistics would immediately see the fallacy.


    You've not been keeping up. This nonsense seeps into the mainstream. Even today, I saw Planned Parenthood described as a "health care provider" in the mainstream press. Recently, the New York Times started toying with "Mx." as an alternative to the (patriarchal, oligarchical, hegemonic, anti-intersectional, one presumes) "Mr." and "Ms."

    And so forth.
  • mar0302

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    Dec 06, 2015 9:29 AM GMT
    Gay and transgender people have been around forever.. nearly 2,000 years ago Juvenal was writing about the political issues of the day in Rome and about gay marriage and a bunch of other modern-day problems.... (sorry about the old English translation - I couldn't find a better version I could copy/paste)..

    On gay marriage, he was criticising the move to make it open and accepted -
    ""I have a ceremony to attend," quoth one, "at dawn to-morrow, in the Quirinal valley." "What is the occasion?" "No need to ask: a friend is taking to himself a husband; quite a small affair." Yes, and if we only live long enough, we shall see these things done openly: people will wish to see them reported among the news of the day. "

    About transgender people, criticising the fact that they were starting to come out and be who they felt they were -
    "but just where will men draw the limit, they see a high born lawyer dress in transparent chiffon, to public amazement, and prosecute loose living women?"

    Realise that they are satires, so they're extremely scathing.. but he also touched on abortion, incest, lesbians, gay men that were in straight marriages (even suggesting it's good for the wife since the man will buy her a lot of jewels to keep her quiet and she could basically do what she wanted)....

    https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=ngJemlYfB4MC&printsec=frontcover&dq=juvenal+satires&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjzm5i_9cbJAhUJbRQKHdBnC7YQ6AEIVjAJ#v=onepage&q=juvenal%20satires&f=false

    Bottom line - these issues have been around for centuries..
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    Dec 09, 2015 3:39 PM GMT
    DNA analysis show it was a male. Buried with female stuff doesn't indicate he was transgender. Total assumption without fact......disagree with the conclusion.