Are Grindr & Similar hookup apps facilitating excessive drug use & casual sex

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    Dec 08, 2015 2:27 PM GMT
    Here is an article about a young man I had met in the latter stages of an out of control spiral. I am aware that these maybe old news for Some countries but all the same what's your thoughts

    http://www.queerty.com/should-grindr-be-shut-down-for-facilitating-a-rise-in-illegal-drug-use-20150825
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    Dec 08, 2015 3:04 PM GMT

    My thought is, it wouldn't serve a purpose. Grindr is a weed , not the root of the problem. Whacking it icon_biggrin.gif , would only redirect the destructive behavior. Actually, health and law authorities should realize they know the place a lot of this activity converges. They can conduct stings, disseminate information about health, help, and services, and be as much of a presence on Grindr as the drug dealers. It's akin to a parent being present at every kegger his/her child sneaks off to.
  • SilverRRCloud

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    Dec 08, 2015 4:56 PM GMT
    I used to live at Lafayette Park in San Francisco, CA. I would sometimes walk down the hill to the Pig On Ice book and stationary store that is no more. I would browse through the old books at the Acorn bookstore,too. And, yup, lots of drug dealers would approach a single man on the Polk Street in those days.

    So, how about closing down all the streets where the street dealers are offering drugs? Why wouldn't we remove all the inhabitants, too,so that they do not buy drugs? Where would we now house them? How many streets/blocks would we really have to close and how many millions of people would we have to relocate?

    Well, I doubt that the aforementioned plan would get much support in SF or anywhere else, for that matter.

    The dating platforms are virtual streets. Life happens there just as much as it happens elsewhere. Crime comes along, too. We all know that, and yeah, we are all happy live in this imperfect world of ours rather than have it closed down on us.

    I can easily imagine that booming metro cities of Australia ARE actually facing an emerging health crisis. This is where the gay organizations and health authorities need to start working hand in hand and avert the looming human disaster.

    Switching off one site or the other is far too easy and to simple to be any good solution of this seemingly very massive problem.

    SC

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    Dec 08, 2015 7:20 PM GMT
    If you have substance abuse issues and you find yourself unable to say no to drugs on Grindr, then you should not be on Grindr. That doesn't mean that the entire site should be shut down anymore so than restaurants should be shut down for serving food for risk of causing diet relapses in diabetics.
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    Dec 08, 2015 7:53 PM GMT
    He'll be back on drugs in no time. He still hasn't decided to take personal responsibility. He's the kind of ex drug addict who stays clean by becoming addicted to self righteousness.
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    Dec 08, 2015 8:20 PM GMT
    i assume all Grinder users are >18years old or whatever the local age of consent is. Let these men do what they want.

    at some point when Grinder is becoming another Silk Road, it may be advantageous not to use the application.
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    Dec 08, 2015 8:53 PM GMT
    pellaz said

    at some point when Grinder is becoming another Silk Road


    Can one really score drugs on grindr?
  • stratavos

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    Dec 08, 2015 9:12 PM GMT
    *sigh* the people who are using and those that are providing are the issues right?

    why not just... address the actual problem instead of attacking the medium that they use...?
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    Dec 08, 2015 10:02 PM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidJust like anything else:

    Where there's a will, people will find a way to get what they're seeking.

    I don't think it would make a difference. People will just create another outlet for getting their drugs.


    You're correct.

    People got illegal drugs before Grindr.

    People had unsafe sex before Grindr.

    Surprise.
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    Dec 08, 2015 10:10 PM GMT
    Oceans_of_Flowers said
    My thought is, it wouldn't serve a purpose. Grindr is a weed , not the root of the problem. Whacking it icon_biggrin.gif , would only redirect the destructive behavior. Actually, health and law authorities should realize they know the place a lot of this activity converges. They can conduct stings, disseminate information about health, help, and services, and be as much of a presence on Grindr as the drug dealers. It's akin to a parent being present at every kegger his/her child sneaks off to.


    I agree, it's the guys doing wrong that will always find away wether Grindr or not, & I don't even use Grindr, but can say this without a doubt
  • LJay

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    Dec 08, 2015 11:53 PM GMT
    There is just as high a probability that the drugs are facilitating Grindr & Similar hookup apps.

    Sleaze prospers. The Carrie Nation approach has never worked.
  • 24hourguy

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    Dec 09, 2015 4:13 AM GMT
    Nah -I'm sure they're just meeting for conversation.....
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    Dec 09, 2015 5:17 AM GMT
    It's just a story about one guys' very typical mental illness.

    I certainly hope that these apps are facilitating casual sex. It would be kind of awkward if you were sending dick pics to prospective electricians or plumbers... icon_confused.gif

    Dunno... I've seen a few guys who were obviously hooking, but I'm not aware of any dealing going on. Of course, it could be going right over my head...

    Since it's legal(ish) here now, I've seen a few craigslist ads, offering pot in exchange for goods and services. Probably it has always been going on, but now they can just say it plainly. Still seems weird.
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    Dec 09, 2015 6:21 AM GMT
    Before there was Grindr, there was Craigslist. When Grindr goes away, there will be something else.
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    Dec 09, 2015 6:46 AM GMT
    mindgarden saidIt's just a story about one guys' very typical mental illness.

    I certainly hope that these apps are facilitating casual sex. It would be kind of awkward if you were sending dick pics to prospective electricians or plumbers... icon_confused.gif

    Dunno... I've seen a few guys who were obviously hooking, but I'm not aware of any dealing going on. Of course, it could be going right over my head...

    Since it's legal(ish) here now, I've seen a few craigslist ads, offering pot in exchange for goods and services. Probably it has always been going on, but now they can just say it plainly. Still seems weird.


    People constantly advertise that they parTy on A$A so the drugs are thier. Also doesn't A$A have that weird PRO section. I think you really can unlock your dick pics for an electrician.
  • BloodFlame

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    Dec 09, 2015 6:49 AM GMT
    I wouldn't say for drug use but then again, that's just me. I've been on/off Grindr for some time now and I haven't felt pressure to do drugs lol.
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    Dec 09, 2015 11:30 AM GMT
    Great responses guys and everyone has made some very valid points. Jay is a really nice guy who made some bad decisions and I was on a position to allow him to come stay with me in the days prior to rehab and he told me a lot of what he has been up too during that time. I think people who say don't blame the medium are correct but those who feel that blatant illegal behaviour shouldn't be allowed also have a point. What to me is more concerning is the willingness of many gay men mainly older guys to exploit him even if it was mutual. In other words does exploitation invite young gay men to expect to be exploited sexually, which would result in the more assertively confident proactively looking to exploit others first which can lead to a downward spiral. I am concerned about the manner in which too many Gay men see each other as nothing much more than a cock or a hole to use up and to try to score as many guys as you can or risk feeling like your an inadequate as a gay man because the culture supports the myth that every gay man is/should be sleeping around
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    Dec 10, 2015 3:44 PM GMT
    ^

    Not necessarily true. Monkey see, monkey do, and it's so easy to assume this is reflective on the whole gay spectrum.

    Grindr should never, ever, mother fucking ever, be a representation of all gay men.

    90% of the guys on grindr, guys that cruise, guys that go to bathhouses, are not even gay and just want dick.

    Sadly real gay men get lumped into this category as well and have identical mindsets and views.

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    Dec 10, 2015 3:52 PM GMT
    Boaxy said^

    Not necessarily true. Monkey see, monkey do, and it's so easy to assume this is reflective on the whole gay spectrum.

    Grindr should never, ever, mother fucking ever, be a representation of all gay men.

    90% of the guys on grindr, guys that cruise, guys that go to bathhouses, are not even gay and just want dick.

    Sadly real gay men get lumped into this category as well and have identical mindsets and views.



    I hope you aren't attacked by the gay mafia lol. They hate it when anyone suggest that bisexuals are real or that straight men can have sex with another man and still be straight.