Who cares about us?

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    Feb 04, 2009 12:58 AM GMT
    about 2 years ago one of my managers at taco bell(black) was stabbed in the back near the mardi gras for being a "dyke"she was lucky because if she had been stabbed any closer to her spine she would have been paralyzed for life.

    september 2nd 2008 at around 2am, i(whitish) and a friend of mine(malado) were attacked by 6 gay bashers(black) around my age on the south end. In case you were wondering why i was out i work nights and so does he. He's not exactly out himself but somehow we were both targeted. i got my face bashed in and am permanently scarred on the top of my left hand. and his leg is still messed up.

    about five nights ago a new friend of mine(turkish) who also wishes not to have his name disclosed either out of embarrassment was attacked by 3 (hispanic) "straight" men who he said reaked of vodka. He wasn't robbed. At the moment he won't even go outside bc he wishes for nobody to see his disfigurements. I asked him what they said over the phone and he asked me what maticon meant. i told him that's usually spanish for "faggot"

    this last attack has put an anger in me that won't go down without any actions taken. i even wanted to go for the "an eye for an eye" approach. however i don't think that would necessarily help anybody who looks or acts or is GLBT. I've even heard of straights in NY being gay bashed so it's not just us i'm worried about.
    What do i want?
    1 people to care, starting with the Straights and Gays That Care(SGTC)
    2 more qualified as well as openly glbt police in springfield.
    3 For this violence and hatred towards us to stop at least at the local level.
    4 to open up a senior center for glbt individuals.
    5 maybe if this organization becomes succesful help the economy as well.

    What am i doing about it?
    I decided that 3 days before my birthday as well as the day of the contest night at club xstatic, feb 21st to organize at springfield's city hall for an anti-gay bashing demonstration.

    and think about it... what if it was you, a friend a lover maybe even family attacked like this.

    Why should any of us have to hide or set a curfew? i work nights, clubs are open at night, and some of us have the munchies at night. And we all don't drive.

    Lets make the streets safer for everybody.
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    Feb 04, 2009 1:09 AM GMT
    Let's not go down the path of the Black Panthers, or become vigilantes in any sense. We should not fight violence with violence, it simply will not work.

    I understand your concerns and fears, and wish terribly that this kind of action would be stamped out.

    I am not sure about your area, but here in Australia most police forces have a GLBTI liason officer who you can contact with your concerns. Perhaps contact your local station and ask if there is a GLBTI officer available within your state to talk to.

    Good luck.
  • Tiller66

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    Feb 04, 2009 1:37 AM GMT
    Sorry to hear about your being hurt but just be careful that the anger does'nt take you down the wrong path.Use the anger for focus and I think that the rally is a good idea and check out if thier is a LBGT officer at your police department.Good Luck and Be Safe
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    Feb 04, 2009 1:40 AM GMT
    Wow...Alexander you have had a really tough time. I can't even imagine how I would feel if any of this even happened to a friend. It's people like you that put up the real fight and progress this nation to equality so that one day all of the U.S. can be accepting. I, for one, thank you for being brave and staying strong in adversity.
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    Feb 04, 2009 1:51 AM GMT
    Fear leads to hate

    Hate leads to suffering
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    Feb 04, 2009 2:35 AM GMT
    That is horrible. I was out in that same area when you were attacked back in September. I have never experianced any problems when I go out. I hope you and your friends went to the police and filed a report. I know Massachusetts does not tolerate hate crimes. Its really sad that people stilll use violence towards people that are different from them. Sad.
  • DCEric

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    Feb 04, 2009 3:30 AM GMT
    cronker saidFear leads to hate

    Hate leads to suffering


    suffering leads to stress
    stress leads to dubies
    dubies lead to twinkies

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    Feb 04, 2009 3:47 AM GMT
    There was a long streak of gay bashing in Houston several years ago, and the police were doing nothing to stop it. A group of vigilante gay men started setting up "stings" and would beat down gay bashing groups. The gay bashings became less and less frequent.

    Not saying that I encourage violence, just saying sometimes it takes a few extremists to get the police's attention.
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    Feb 04, 2009 3:51 AM GMT
    No need for the flamebait thread title.
  • EdoardoBaeux

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    Feb 04, 2009 4:37 AM GMT
    cronker saidFear leads to hate

    Hate leads to suffering
    yoda.jpg



    OMG i laughed my ass off lol

    Errmm.. but gettin back to the main point. Im so sorry about that. Good luck with all that stuff. there is no much i can do about it but not act too gay.
    Sometimes extremely faggots become visually annoying lol jk but seriously I would go to this springfield stuff i was living there.

    the best mate.

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    Feb 04, 2009 5:55 AM GMT
    cronker saidLet's not go down the path of the Black Panthers, or become vigilantes in any sense. We should not fight violence with violence, it simply will not work.

    I understand your concerns and fears, and wish terribly that this kind of action would be stamped out.

    I am not sure about your area, but here in Australia most police forces have a GLBTI liason officer who you can contact with your concerns. Perhaps contact your local station and ask if there is a GLBTI officer available within your state to talk to.

    Good luck.


    Umm... I never said it was going to be a violent protest just an anti-gay bashing demo. as in anti-violence...

    Yes i know massachusetts is pretty good on the gay rights stuff but honestly there are still certain cities where the police turn the other cheek. we do have one gay officer but i'm not sure how to contact him other than this particular site and i would rather have more than just one "openly gay officer to protect us. acting gay is really not the issue here. other than my lesbian friend none of us were really portraying a steryotype and i am seriously insisting on as many people as possible to show up. i dance at the club afterwards anyway and i'm sure the 21st is far enough away to make some plans. i have been researching permits and so far as i know it doesn't look like i'll really need one although i find that hard to believe i'll keep looking into that and i'm also trying to get some support from local gay friendly churches. The guy who got attacked the other night simply wears nice clothes and tends to be on the clean cut side. the men who attacked him reeked of vodka. And there are a lot of closet case peurtoricans in this city too so don't be fooled. anti-gay BS tends to spring from closet cases in the first place. When i was attacked personally i was walking with a police dispatcher who's semi-closet case and he is a big guy. his leg is still F#$ked up btw.
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    Feb 04, 2009 6:16 AM GMT
    Sounds like an episode of QAF.
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    Feb 04, 2009 6:19 AM GMT
    Sorry to hear about these attacks. Good luck with the demonstration. I hope you get a good turnout. It's great that you're doing this.
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    Feb 04, 2009 6:25 AM GMT
    One word COUNSELING! You have experienced a MAJOR truma!
  • pelotudo87

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    Feb 04, 2009 6:25 AM GMT
    sorry to hear about what happened. hope u and yr friend recover
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    Feb 04, 2009 6:26 AM GMT
    I can certainly appreciate the non-violence approach in resolving these issues. However, you can only reaon with the reasonable so f*ck it. Praise the lord and grab the ammunition!!

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    Feb 04, 2009 7:15 AM GMT
    You have my support. This is why I took self defense classes for about a year. I know if I get attacked the only thing I will be thinking is that my attacker(s) means to kill me and I will beat him/them down or at least as many as I can before I fall if I can't get away.
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    Feb 04, 2009 7:59 AM GMT
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    Wipe them out. All of them. icon_evil.gif
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    Feb 04, 2009 8:58 AM GMT
    Some of the posts here remind me of scenes from the movie Jeffrey. In it, it said some of our best weapons are irony, humor, sarcasm and such. It amazes me that in order for anything to be done, it has to most likely come to violence. I saw ( this was a long time ago) a guy at a bar getting beat up in the parking lot of a gay club. My boyfriend and I at the time went to his aid. I got to them first. My then boyfriend went back to call to the police. There were two guys beating up on this guy. I jumped one guy and my boyfriend came with others who helped the guy getting beat up. We held the guys until the police came. My bf and I gave the victim our info and told him to contact us. We went with him to the police station to file the reports, we helped him get a lawyer and we got him intouch with some people through our old fraternity contacts to get him some counseling. Alexander, DO NOT let this go. Do whatever you can to send a message of any kind. Even just one person can make a difference. I never saw the guy after his case was done, but I did receive a letter a few years after thanking me. The guy became a lawyer specializing what we know today as hate crimes. I would hate to think if we had done nothing what would have happened to him and to think those guys were brazen enough to come to a gay bar and do something like that. They only got 3 years a piece for it (no hate crime laws back then), but it was something. And find whatever help you can for your pals and yourself. You need it whether you think so or not. You all have been violated. I hope everything works out for you and your friends. I whole-heartedly support you and your efforts...
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    Feb 04, 2009 9:59 AM GMT
    Be more creative with the thread title next time. It was done in poor taste.
  • zakariahzol

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    Feb 04, 2009 11:36 AM GMT
    There nothing I hate more than gay haters. It make my blood boil and make me very very angry. You be surprise that some of those gay hater and gay basher are themself gay and closeted. They cant accept who they really are and decided to shift the blame to other gay people.
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    Feb 04, 2009 12:30 PM GMT
    How soon we forget......what will it take for all of us to join as one and fight back?

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    Feb 06, 2009 2:58 AM GMT
    Tapper saidBe more creative with the thread title next time. It was done in poor taste.


    That was simply meant to shock you into reading this forum. this is important to me. I don't play when i say i'm doing something about it I am doing something about it but i need more people to show up i only have 7 who say they'll definitely show up and i am working on getting other glbt organizations as well as gay friendly churches involved. We have the laws here we just need to make sure they are being enforced.
  • OutdoorAdvent...

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    Feb 06, 2009 3:17 AM GMT
    Sorry about what happened to you, Alexander89. My approach to contributing to the effort to end such incidents would be:
    1. Go to the police. Assault and battery are crimes. MA has hate crimes laws, which increases the the legal severity of these crimes, the resources available to investigate and prosecute them, and the severity of the sentences that can be handed down;
    2. Contact local to national GLBT organizations about the incidents. You and your friends who were assaulted and battered may be "resources" for them in promoting/strengthening hate crimes legislation, and in aiding international efforts as well. (The UN recently passed a declaration condemning homophobia and asserting GLBT rights...
    www.nytimes.com/2008/12/19/world/19nations.html
    ...which the US, China, Russia, the Catholic Church, and the Organization of the Islamic Conference opposed. Great human rights allies we have, ey?)
    Thank you for your post.
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    Feb 06, 2009 8:56 AM GMT
    How about this? Fight back. Beat them silly. As soon as someone talks trash, jump his ass. Beat him down. I learned along time ago that you can't negotiate with idiots. A quick left hook does wonders to change the conversation. Hit hard, hit fast and be as brutal as possible. It seems to cure guys of homophobia fairly quickly.

    Just one guy's thoughts........