Ban Donald Trump from entering the UK: Over 150,000 (now 250k) Britons sign petition EDIT Parliament considering turning it into an official policy lolol

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    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/uk/Ban-Donald-Trump-from-entering-the-UK-Over-150000-Britons-sign-petition/articleshow/50110010.cms
    LONDON: More than 150,000 Britons have signed an online petition to ban US Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump from the country following his proposal to stop Muslims from entering the United States.

    Trump, who owns two golf courses in Scotland...


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  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Dec 10, 2015 6:25 AM GMT
    Sam27 saidlol Let's wait and see how RJ's Donald Trump supporters going to react.


    Who cares about some silly petition? Talk about a waste of time, ink, and paper. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Dec 10, 2015 6:26 AM GMT
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    Dec 10, 2015 2:37 PM GMT
    Sam27 saidlol Let's wait and see how RJ's Donald Trump supporters going to react.


    What Donald Trump proposes is dumb and he often says things that make no sense without details.

    He has some deep psychological issues I believe.


    The reason why his rhetoric resonates is because he says things that for years people have been shamed into muttering under there breath.

    During the Iran hostage crisis Carter deported 50k Iranian students. They were ordered to Immigration holding until a determination.

    To deny a people the right to protect themselves is a dangerous proposition. The liberal left want to bring love and flower power back. Yes most of the Syrian's are likely great loving people. For just a handful of people the country is polarizing more over issues that most people were in agreement about. That handful can easily be taken care of in a country closer to home.

    Personally I dont think a blanked "block Islam" rule would ever work. It would steal resources and wast time and distract from the man fledgling terrorists in our own midst.

    The Saudi's run the center of the universe of that toilet bowl of the Middle East. They should take the Syrian refugee's. Is there one reason why that cant happen? They should fix the ISIS problem.

    As for the UK, I think our dear president has weakened Nato beyond repair. They should watch there rhetoric.
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    http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/12/boris-johnson-donald-trump-feud
    ...a petition to ban Trump from entering the U.K. has won official consideration by Parliament....

    ...A large percentage of Britons seem to agree with Johnson: a recent petition to ban Trump from entering the United Kingdom received over 250,000 signatures, which means Parliament now has to consider turning it into an official policy....
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    Dec 10, 2015 6:37 PM GMT
    As I've said before, I doubt if I'd ever vote for Trump, but I do greatly respect and admire his willingness to tell it like it is and speak openly on matters that too many shy away from. As for the Brits, I respect their sovereign right to deny entry to whomever they [damn well] please, and urge that our country be much more selective in doing so.
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    Dec 10, 2015 7:48 PM GMT
    I have heard the whole interview that Trump has made on this topic and he actually said that middle eastern immigrants should not be allowed in UNLESS THEY HAVE BEEN VETTED FOR SECURITY REASONS, there is a very big difference between that and what the press have twisted and taken out of context which has resulted in death threats from various factions.
    I think the guy is very real and has the United States peoples interests at heart, he is a very successful businessman and could be very good for the economy, Obama, the Bushes and the Clintons do not have the countries interests at heart and are self serving and running the country into the ground but people can't seem to see it.
    I am from the UK and the guy is welcome as far as i'm concerned.
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    Dec 10, 2015 8:23 PM GMT
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    Who cares about some silly petition? Talk about a waste of time, ink, and paper. icon_rolleyes.gif


    It's an e-petition (i.e. no ink, no paper) and, as I write, it's nearing half a million signatures.

    Actually, I don't agree with banning Trump from the UK. Let everyone see and hear him for the clown he is. As for the petition, I see it as an expression of general disgust at his lies and demonizing of a small section of British society, rather than a serious declaration of intent. Anyway, must go: I have something to sign.
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    Dec 11, 2015 12:33 AM GMT
    Unfortunately Britain has become a cowardly nation that prizes denial and political correctness over reality and self preservation. The United States is not far behind.

    Not quite sure what created this irrational frenzy in the UK. If it is over what Trump said about the existence of police no go zones in Muslim London neighborhoods, one almost cannot express in words the level of denial and stupidity that underlies the drive to sign the petition. It's not even a debatable point that these areas exist in London and Paris.

    And please don't cite the cowardly Prime Minister or Police Commissioner's statements to the contrary. People in high office and positions of responsibility are no less susceptible to denial than everyone else. Consequently, nobody tells the truth anymore. It's all about living in fear of the thought police. And it's putting all of us in danger.

    I'm not sure if I support Trump's proposal or not, but one thing I do know is I don't want large groups of unassimilated, Sharia - adhering lunatics inhabiting large swaths of the United States like they do in Western Europe. And don't play the racism card on me. If Muslims would assimilate and value the separation of church and state I would have no problem with them coming to this country. But many of them don't want to assimilate. They wish to conquer and convert.

    I must say it's staggering to me that gay and bisexual men aren't more alarmed by the specter of growing Muslim populations in the United States who wish to live under Sharia Law. Believe me, devoted followers of the Prophet wouldn't pray for us like the Christians do. They would put us in jail in many cases and execute us in others.

    Ah yes, but Donald Trump is who we should be afraid of. We have truly gone off the deep end.
  • KissTheSky

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    Dec 11, 2015 1:13 AM GMT
    It's great to see the UK stand up for what's right, and standing up to Trump's bigotry and racism.
    Trump has zero chance of being elected here in the US, he is just dragging down the GOP.
    The one bright side to all this is that he will have permanently damaged his own "brand" and businesses around the world. Most people do not want to give their money to a vile bigot.
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    Dec 11, 2015 3:11 AM GMT
    KissTheSky saidIt's great to see the UK stand up for what's right, and standing up to Trump's bigotry and racism.
    Trump has zero chance of being elected here in the US, he is just dragging down the GOP.
    The one bright side to all this is that he will have permanently damaged his own "brand" and businesses around the world. Most people do not want to give their money to a vile bigot.


    The bad thing is that Obama has damaged the country, hopefully not permanently. Its coming out slowly that the DHS killed an investigation in 2012/2013 of an investigation in SOcal at the request of muslim groups and the Admin complied.
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    Dec 11, 2015 3:21 AM GMT
    KissTheSky saidIt's great to see the UK stand up for what's right, and standing up to Trump's bigotry and racism.
    Trump has zero chance of being elected here in the US, he is just dragging down the GOP.
    The one bright side to all this is that he will have permanently damaged his own "brand" and businesses around the world. Most people do not want to give their money to a vile bigot.


    If Trump's proposal had been enacted in 2000-2001, would the 911 hijackers have been able to get into the country? Clearly the answer is no. So I assume if you could go back in time and enact it you would, right? Or is sensitivity more important than the lives of 3,000 Americans?

    It's amazing to me how many people act like 911 never happened. And don't seem to think it could happen again.
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    Dec 11, 2015 3:24 AM GMT
    Trump says whats on his mind he isn't politically correct so ya gotta give him props for that-political correctness has ruined this country if you have something to say just say it already fuck what anybody thinks about it its your opinion!!
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    Dec 11, 2015 3:41 AM GMT
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    KissTheSky saidIt's great to see the UK stand up for what's right, and standing up to Trump's bigotry and racism.
    Trump has zero chance of being elected here in the US, he is just dragging down the GOP.
    The one bright side to all this is that he will have permanently damaged his own "brand" and businesses around the world. Most people do not want to give their money to a vile bigot.


    If Trump's proposal had been enacted in 2000-2001, would the 911 hijackers have been able to get into the country? Clearly the answer is no. So I assume if you could go back in time and enact it you would, right? Or is sensitivity more important than the lives of 3,000 Americans?


    I disagree, the terrorist were hell bent on doing what they wanted.

    They simply would have figured out to mask there religion. The resources required to enforce a ban are not realistic and distract from what is needed to do.

    This silly plan will resonate with Republicans and Democrats.

    FROM RASMUSSEN

    Just 30% of Democrats favor Trump’s proposed ban, while 55% oppose it. Voters not affiliated with either major party support the ban by a narrow 45% to 39% margin.


    Even 56% of Democrats believe America is at war with radical Islamic terrorism, a view shared by 70% of Republicans and 54% of voters not affiliated with either major party.

    A staggering 92% of all voters now regard radical Islamic terrorism as a serious threat to the United States. This includes 73% who say it is a Very Serious one, up 23 points from 50% i

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    Dec 11, 2015 3:56 AM GMT
    Not surprising as the UK is already overrun by Muslims. It's sad that Muslim has become a synonym for British or French. Not even Middle Eastern countries were as outraged by Trump's remarks as those two "European" countries.

    Trump is just trying to stop the same from happening to America.
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    Dec 11, 2015 8:33 AM GMT
    AaronH20P saidNot surprising as the UK is already overrun by Muslims. It's sad that Muslim has become a synonym for British or French. Not even Middle Eastern countries were as outraged by Trump's remarks as those two "European" countries.

    Trump is just trying to stop the same from happening to America.


    This is bull. Just as Trumps comments are. Where are these areas in the UK that are overrun by Muslims and police are afraid to go? Name them?
    There are no areas where the police are afraid to go. There are no areas where anyone in the public are afraid to go.

    There is no factual evidence just off the cuff statements.
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    AaronH20P saidNot surprising as the UK is already overrun by Muslims. It's sad that Muslim has become a synonym for British or French. Not even Middle Eastern countries were as outraged by Trump's remarks as those two "European" countries.

    Trump is just trying to stop the same from happening to America.


    This is bull. Just as Trumps comments are. Where are these areas in the UK that are overrun by Muslims and police are afraid to go? Name them?
    There are no areas where the police are afraid to go. There are no areas where anyone in the public are afraid to go.

    There is no factual evidence just off the cuff statements.


    How about Rotherham? The police allowed 1,400 girls to be reaped and used as sexual slaves for years because the muslim community had become untouchable. And that's not even the only city where that sort of thing happened.

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    KissTheSky saidIt's great to see the UK stand up for what's right, and standing up to Trump's bigotry and racism.
    Trump has zero chance of being elected here in the US, he is just dragging down the GOP.
    The one bright side to all this is that he will have permanently damaged his own "brand" and businesses around the world. Most people do not want to give their money to a vile bigot.


    If Trump's proposal had been enacted in 2000-2001, would the 911 hijackers have been able to get into the country? Clearly the answer is no. So I assume if you could go back in time and enact it you would, right? Or is sensitivity more important than the lives of 3,000 Americans?


    I disagree, the terrorist were hell bent on doing what they wanted.

    They simply would have figured out to mask there religion. The resources required to enforce a ban are not realistic and distract from what is needed to do.

    This silly plan will resonate with Republicans and Democrats.

    FROM RASMUSSEN

    Just 30% of Democrats favor Trump’s proposed ban, while 55% oppose it. Voters not affiliated with either major party support the ban by a narrow 45% to 39% margin.


    Even 56% of Democrats believe America is at war with radical Islamic terrorism, a view shared by 70% of Republicans and 54% of voters not affiliated with either major party.

    A staggering 92% of all voters now regard radical Islamic terrorism as a serious threat to the United States. This includes 73% who say it is a Very Serious one, up 23 points from 50% i



    Not sure how they would have "masked" their religion once we ran a background check on them. It would become clear they were in all likelihood lying.
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    Sam27 saidlol Let's wait and see how RJ's Donald Trump supporters going to react.

    Who cares about some silly petition? Talk about a waste of time, ink, and paper. icon_rolleyes.gif

    ummm... You should know something about a subject before you speak. It happens that the British Parliament is required to formally debate any petition that exceeds 100,000 signatures. So hardly a waste of anything, and certainly not ink & paper, the petition being online.

    And with the signatures approaching 500,000 (maybe past that by now), it will be the largest petition ever presented to Parliament. The British public is incensed by Donald Trump, and that record-breaking response may influence the Members of Parliament to pass the ban against The Donald. I hope they do.
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    Dec 11, 2015 7:43 PM GMT
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    There are no areas where the police are afraid to go. There are no areas where anyone in the public are afraid to go.

    There is no factual evidence just off the cuff statements.


    In January 2014, Tom Winsor, Her Majesty’s Chief Inspector of Constabulary told the Times newspaper: “There are some communities born under other skies who will not involve the police at all… I am reluctant to name the communities in question but there are communities from other cultures who would prefer to police themselves. There are cities in the Midlands where the police never go because they are never called. They never hear of any trouble because the community deals with that on its own . . . They just have their own form of community justice.”