Famous American Muslims Who Make USA Exceptional

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    Dec 10, 2015 5:29 AM GMT
    Wikipedia:

    ACTIVISM and POLITICS
    Zalmay Khalilzad – former US Ambassador to the United Nations under G. Bush
    Zainab Salbi - co-founder and president for Women for Women International
    Elias Zerhouni – Director, National Institutes of Health

    ARMED FORCES
    Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan – United States Army Soldier killed in Iraq

    ART
    Shirin Neshat – Iranian-American visual artist and film director
    Shahzia Sikander – Pakistani-American artist and MacArthur Fellow

    BUSINESS
    Mohamed A. El-Erian – CEO of PIMCO, manager of over $1 trillion in assets
    Fuad El-Hibri – CEO of Emergent BioSolutions
    Jawed Karim – Co-founder of YouTube
    Shahid Khan - owner of the Jacksonville Jaguars (NFL)
    Farooq Kathwari – CEO of Ethan Allen Global, Inc.

    ENTERTAINMENT
    Busta Rhymes – hip-hop artist and rapper
    Casey Kasem - Druze radio personality known for his top forty DJ format
    Ice Cube – rapper and producer
    Mos Def – rapper
    Snoop Dogg – rapper

    TELEVISION
    Mehmet Oz – medical doctor, talk show host

    MODELS
    Iman – supermodel and wife of David Bowie[105]
    Rima Fakih – Miss USA 2010

    SCIENCE
    Fazlur Khan – structural engineer (Sears Tower, John Hancock Center)
    Ayub K. Ommaya – neurosurgeon, inventor of the Ommaya reservoir
    Ahmed Zewail – Nobel Prize winner in Chemistry

    SPORTS: Boxing

    Muhammad Ali –
    Bernard Hopkins – Middleweight and Light Heavyweight world champion
    Eddie Mustafa Muhammad – former Light Heavyweight Champion
    Matthew Saad Muhammad – former Light Heavyweight Champion
    Dwight Muhammad Qawi – former Light Heavyweight and Cruiserweight Champion
    Hasim Rahman – former Heavyweight champion
    Mike Tyson – Undisputed Heavyweight Champion in 1987

    SPORTS: Basketball

    DeSagana Diop - basketball player for the Charlotte Bobcats
    Kareem Abdul-Jabbar –
    Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf – former player for Denver Nuggets
    Shareef Abdur-Rahim – retired player, named NBA All-Star in 2001–02 season
    Hassan Adams – New Jersey Nets, Cleveland Cavaliers
    Larry Johnson – Charlotte Hornets and New York Knicks
    Nazr Mohammed – player for the Charlotte Bobcats
    Mehmet Okur – Turkish player of the Utah Jazz
    Shaquille O'Neal – player for the Boston Celtics
    Rasheed Wallace - player for the Boston Celtics

    SPORTS: NFL
    Hamza Abdullah – safety for the Cleveland Browns
    Husain Abdullah – safety for the Minnesota Vikings
    Oday Aboushi - guard, drafted by the New York Jets
    Az-Zahir Hakim – wide receiver formerly for the St. Louis Rams
    Abdul Hodge – linebacker for the Carolina Panthers
    Ahmad Rashād – former wide receiver for Minnesota Vikings
    Ephraim Salaam – offensive tackle for the Detroit Lions
    Muhammad Wilkerson – defensive end for the New York Jets
    Usama Young – free safety for the New Orleans Saints

    WRITING
    Fareed Zakaria, head of Newsweek International
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    Dec 10, 2015 1:31 PM GMT
    http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/why-muslims-have-only-few-nobel-prizes.aspx?pageID=449&nID=52473&NewsCatID=411

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/07/the-myth-of-islamic-science

    http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=21117
  • jockguy1

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    Dec 10, 2015 2:02 PM GMT
    That's a great list Woodsman. These respected people could do so much by taking a public stand and speaking out against ISIS.
  • musclmed

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    Dec 10, 2015 2:27 PM GMT
    jockguy1 saidThat's a great list Woodsman. These respected people could do so much by taking a public stand and speaking out against ISIS.


    Personally I dont blame them. They know that outspoken muslims are retaliated against by the more radical ones. They get death threats all the time.
    It explains in part why the religion is on a runaway course.
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    Dec 10, 2015 3:00 PM GMT
    Unless you can show a correlation between their Islamic faith and their success in their respective fields, your list is as meaningless as if I posted one on successful Christians in America. Just a bunch of bullshit propaganda.
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    Dec 10, 2015 6:33 PM GMT
    woodsmen saidWikipedia:

    LOL! You left out the description of Cassius Clay, so I've filled it in for you:

    SPORTS: Boxing

    Muhammad Ali – nee Cassius Clay, ur-trash talker and loudmouthed draft dodger, revered for I know not what other than his ability to pound people to a pulp.

    I've also added a new category, in the interests of diversity:

    CONVICTED MURDERERS:

    Major Nidal Hasan, MC, USMC - beloved killer of 13 US servicemen at Ft. Hood
  • tazzari

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    Dec 10, 2015 7:14 PM GMT
    Good post! See also http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/dec/08/donald-trump-famous-muslims-us-history for Muslims who have made significant contributions in the past.
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    Dec 10, 2015 7:15 PM GMT
    UndercoverMan saidUnless you can show a correlation between their Islamic faith and their success in their respective fields, your list is as meaningless as if I posted one on successful Christians in America. Just a bunch of bullshit propaganda.


    No, just a very good illustration that tarring everyone with the same brush is, in your words, "bullshit propaganda."
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    Dec 10, 2015 8:50 PM GMT
    tazzari said
    UndercoverMan saidUnless you can show a correlation between their Islamic faith and their success in their respective fields, your list is as meaningless as if I posted one on successful Christians in America. Just a bunch of bullshit propaganda.


    No, just a very good illustration that tarring everyone with the same brush is, in your words, "bullshit propaganda."


    So you'd have no problem with a post of all of the modern world's innovations highlighting the contributions of the Christian West?

    You'd be the first PC whiner screaming racism.
  • tazzari

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    Dec 10, 2015 10:15 PM GMT
    UndercoverMan said
    tazzari said
    UndercoverMan saidUnless you can show a correlation between their Islamic faith and their success in their respective fields, your list is as meaningless as if I posted one on successful Christians in America. Just a bunch of bullshit propaganda.


    No, just a very good illustration that tarring everyone with the same brush is, in your words, "bullshit propaganda."


    So you'd have no problem with a post of all of the modern world's innovations highlighting the contributions of the Christian West?

    You'd be the first PC whiner screaming racism.


    Nope, sure wouldn't. Guess you don't know me very well!
  • bro4bro

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    Dec 11, 2015 4:38 AM GMT
    I see your list doesn't make a distinction between Black Muslims (an American black nationalist invention) and Muslims. It's a whole different thing. Mainstream Islam does not consider Black Muslims to be "true" Muslims.

    Also, Casey Kasim was an Arab-American whose parents were from Lebanon, but he was not Muslim. As your list says, he was Druze, which, once again, is a whole different thing. A different Abrahamic religion entirely, in no way based on or affiliated with Islam.

    that's the problem with using Wikipedia as a data source. Anybody can post anything.

    And by the way, Mehmet Oz makes America "exceptional"? He's an exceptional quack who spends a good deal of his time dodging lawsuits for his bogus TV medicine and pseudoscience. That's about it.
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    Dec 11, 2015 4:44 AM GMT
    ^ Thank you for pointing out three problems of an abbreviated list. Given the three problems that you pointed out, do you then conclude that American Muslims have contributed nothing to the USA to make it exceptional?
  • bro4bro

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    Dec 11, 2015 4:49 AM GMT
    No, I conclude that you posted a list to make a point without really understanding its contents.
  • JackNNJ

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    Dec 11, 2015 5:03 AM GMT
    UndercoverMan saidUnless you can show a correlation between their Islamic faith and their success in their respective fields, your list is as meaningless as if I posted one on successful Christians in America. Just a bunch of bullshit propaganda.


    Maybe propaganda - but definitely all about the feelz.
  • JackNNJ

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    Dec 11, 2015 5:04 AM GMT
    woodsmen said^ Thank you for pointing out three problems of an abbreviated list. Given the three problems that you pointed out, do you then conclude that American Muslims have contributed nothing to the USA to make it exceptional?


    You're a pyromaniac in a field of straw men. There was never an argument that "Muslims don't make America exceptional."

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    Dec 11, 2015 5:10 AM GMT
    bro4bro saidNo, I conclude that you posted a list to make a point without really understanding its contents.


    Okay. Then let us test your premise. Here is a fact from the above list: "Jawed Karim – Co-founder of YouTube". Are you concluding that I don't understand this fact?
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    Dec 11, 2015 5:15 AM GMT
    woodsmen said^ Thank you for pointing out three problems of an abbreviated list. Given the three problems that you pointed out, do you then conclude that American Muslims have contributed nothing to the USA to make it exceptional?


    No one on your list has made the USA exceptional. More than half are athletes and entertainers! Athletes and entertainers, regardless of religious affiliation, make the USA exceptional?! WTF! That's laughable! Snoop Dogg? Busta Rhymes?! Dear god man are you daft?

    The founding fathers of this nation made this nation exceptional and not a one of them was a Muslim. They had the foresight to separate government from religion - to set up a republican form of government unfettered by religious authority and it's power granted by its citizens. I doubt the Muslims of their time and many still today cannot fathom any form of government other than one under the yoke of Islam.
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    Dec 11, 2015 5:17 AM GMT
    jockguy1 saidThat's a great list Woodsman. These respected people could do so much by taking a public stand and speaking out against ISIS.


    ^^^
    This
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    Dec 11, 2015 5:22 AM GMT
    ^ Thank you for your opinion UndercoverMan. Your paragraph is directed to freedom from religions but our Founding Fathers also gave us freedom of religion. You are a Roman Catholic (I believe). At many points in the history of our country there were suspicions of Roman Catholics being beholden to the Pope instead of being patriots of our country. JFK was besmirched in this way but the values of our country overcome such prejudices.
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    Dec 11, 2015 5:47 AM GMT
    No, the point of my response is that is the US is exceptional but not because of any of the many religions professed by any of her citizens and certainly not by any of the athletes and entertainers you listed. To maintain the athletes, entertainers, Dr. Oz, and fashion models, etc. make the US exceptional is ridiculous.

    Freedom from religious interference in the government, especially when it is at odds with the constitution, is what makes this country exceptional.
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    Dec 11, 2015 3:34 PM GMT
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    Given family involved continually in entertainment since grandma danced upon the Vaudeville stage, family in music and stage and film including work featured at the White House, family with Oscar and Emmy awards, family responsible for the production of beloved Americana known for generations since and generations hence, I've had cause to reflect upon the topic maybe well enough to speak to this:

    UndercoverMan said
    woodsmen said^ Thank you for pointing out three problems of an abbreviated list. Given the three problems that you pointed out, do you then conclude that American Muslims have contributed nothing to the USA to make it exceptional?


    No one on your list has made the USA exceptional. More than half are athletes and entertainers! Athletes and entertainers, regardless of religious affiliation, make the USA exceptional?! WTF! That's laughable! Snoop Dogg? Busta Rhymes?! Dear god man are you daft?


    Bullshit.

    Okay, I can actually add to that...

    Entertainment is the conveyance of culture: expressing at the time and lasting through the times the films of directors, actors and writers buried, the tune that remains after the singer is long dead, the emotions of the people, the thoughts of the people, the will of the people.

    How many citizens here or allies around the world know word for word the preamble of our Constitution? Now, how many people know all the notes to She'll be Comin' Round the Mountain when she comes when she comes? Just entertainment is it?

    What best survives telling us most of the ancient Greek culture but their plays? But fragments of their artistry uncovered in archeological digs. Just entertainment.

    What moved the Nazi war machine but their propagandizing? How very entertaining.

    So entertainment is powerful and so entertainers do add to the greatness of their country. Entertainment can make you laugh. It can make you cry. It can rivet you to your seats or move you to action. Sometimes it just bothers to explain a thing or two.

    One of my most wonderful teachers began his English class by leaping into the classroom with a split. Now, there's an entertaining guy who knew how to get our attention. All my friends and I learned from him and all of us, even the class clowns, remember him with great regard. Entertainment can make you think.

    That's entertainment. If you don't think it adds to the greatness of a nation, show us where in the world our Hollywood has not exported our American culture?