GOP - Brokered Convention - dump Trump

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    Dec 11, 2015 1:21 PM GMT
    http://www.aol.com/article/2015/12/11/gop-power-brokers-are-reportedly-preparing-for-an-11th-hour-floo/21281977/
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    Dec 11, 2015 3:07 PM GMT
    This will set a potentially consequential precedent. I'm not sure it's a good idea, even if the Republican power brokers don't support a Trump presidency.
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    Dec 11, 2015 3:31 PM GMT
    DOMINUS saidThis will set a potentially consequential precedent. I'm not sure it's a good idea, even if the Republican power brokers don't support a Trump presidency.


    What a mess we have on our hands !!!! I can't begin to guess how this is all going to work out.

    If we get hit by terrorists a couple more times before the primaries are over, it'll make it much more likely that he makes it. And then we'll end up taking him down by impeachment. That's how extreme all of this could get.
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    Dec 11, 2015 9:12 PM GMT
    well, the Republicans never had an problem with subverting the voters before, why start now? icon_lol.gif
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    Dec 12, 2015 12:15 AM GMT
    freedomisntfree said
    DOMINUS saidThis will set a potentially consequential precedent. I'm not sure it's a good idea, even if the Republican power brokers don't support a Trump presidency.

    What a mess we have on our hands !!!! I can't begin to guess how this is all going to work out.

    If Trump advances to the convention you Republicans have a very big problem. "Power brokers" making the decision will kill the Party's election chances.

    Trump loyalists will rebel, and the candidate who gets "anointed" by the kingmakers instead of Trump will have no credibility with the general electorate.

    But frankly, this is the unintended consequence of the strategy the Republican Party has been using for years. Generating fear & hate to win elections, instead of offering a positive vision & national direction, eventually produces opportunists like Trump.

    Now the Republican Party must deal with a Frankenstein monster of its own creation. I just hope the rest of us don't have to deal with him, too, in the White House.
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    Dec 12, 2015 12:26 AM GMT
    The GOP might succeed in dumping Trump, but it might die from a massive rectal hemorrhage in the process.

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    Dec 12, 2015 3:39 PM GMT
    tj85016 saidwell, the Republicans never had an problem with subverting the voters before, why start now? icon_lol.gif
    Neither have the donkey dorks. Just look at most of the older northern US cities, the naive urban voters were successfully subverted to vote straight democrat for the past 50 to 60 years. In Chicago's case it was the past 80 years of successful subversion by the donkey dorks. Look at the disastrous results.
  • rnch

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    Dec 12, 2015 3:56 PM GMT
    The biggest problem today's GOP faces is: If they "Dump Trump"; who is left? The fading pretty boi with financial issues? Bush lite? The Canadian? The addle brained Doctor?

    The GOP "power brokers" would be smart to draft their looser from past elections, Mitt Romney. Perhaps if he "takes one for the team" and goes down in flames (again) the GOP/TEA can save further election humiliations.

    Speaking as a long term GOP supporter (I defected in RR's second term); there is NOBODY in the GOP/TEA "Clown Car" this election that I can or would vote for.

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    Dec 12, 2015 4:02 PM GMT
    rnch saidThe biggest problem today's GOP faces is: If they "Dump Trump"; who is left? The fading pretty boi with financial issues? Bush lite? The Canadian? The addle brained Doctor?

    The GOP "power brokers" would be smart to draft their looser from past elections, Mitt Romney. Perhaps if he "takes one for the team" and goes down in flames (again) the GOP/TEA can save further election humiliations.

    Speaking as a long term GOP supporter (I defected in RR's second term); there is NOBODY in the GOP/TEA "Clown Car" this election that I can or would vote for.



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    freedomisntfree said
    DOMINUS saidThis will set a potentially consequential precedent. I'm not sure it's a good idea, even if the Republican power brokers don't support a Trump presidency.

    What a mess we have on our hands !!!! I can't begin to guess how this is all going to work out.

    If Trump advances to the convention you Republicans have a very big problem. "Power brokers" making the decision will kill the Party's election chances.

    Trump loyalists will rebel, and the candidate who gets "anointed" by the kingmakers instead of Trump will have no credibility with the general electorate.

    But frankly, this is the unintended consequence of the strategy the Republican Party has been using for years. Generating fear & hate to win elections, instead of offering a positive vision & national direction, eventually produces opportunists like Trump.

    Now the Republican Party must deal with a Frankenstein monster of its own creation. I just hope the rest of us don't have to deal with him, too, in the White House.


    Yeah, Bob, we got it, we really do .... you hate Republicans ... as you've said in what, 35,000+ posts now. Hopefully, they hate you just as much.
  • KissTheSky

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    Dec 12, 2015 4:15 PM GMT
    If the GOP waits until their convention to dump Trump, it is too late for him to get on the ballot as a third-party candidate. And many states prohibit write-in candidates., so his chances would be sunk.
    I doubt if the GOP would do that, though. It would piss off their hard-core racist base too much, who they are counting on to win future elections, even if this one is quickly becoming a lost cause.
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    Dec 12, 2015 4:29 PM GMT
    Do the math. 35% of GOP supports Trump. That is 1/3 of their votes. If they lost that, might as well concede to Hillary now and save $2 Billions.
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    Dec 12, 2015 4:39 PM GMT
    March.

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_GOP_2016_THIRD_PARTY_POSSIBILITIES?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-12-12-03-21-04
  • rnch

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    Dec 12, 2015 5:01 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree said
    rnch saidThe biggest problem today's GOP faces is: If they "Dump Trump"; who is left? The fading pretty boi with financial issues? Bush lite? The Canadian? The addle brained Doctor?

    The GOP "power brokers" would be smart to draft their looser from past elections, Mitt Romney. Perhaps if he "takes one for the team" and goes down in flames (again) the GOP/TEA can save further election humiliations.

    Speaking as a long term GOP supporter (I defected in RR's second term); there is NOBODY in the GOP/TEA "Clown Car" this election that I can or would vote for.



    Kasich



    Voting for this man would be like buying the best house on a bad block.
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    Dec 12, 2015 5:55 PM GMT
    Let's Face Facts here, double F. I am not a died-in-the-wool Democrat, but I can see the obvious here.

    The GOP/TEA party will loose the 2016 POTUS election.

    There is NOBODY in the current clown car a majority of Americans will vote for.

    IF...IF the GOP regroups and removes the TEA party crazies and the Religious Right from platform making; PERHAPS they might stand a chance in the 2024 POTUS election.

    Hillary will be the Democratic party candidate; and she will win with a huge majority.




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    Dec 12, 2015 6:00 PM GMT
    Of course this will happen. Prior to Trump, factory closings, terrorism, exploding federal debt, illegal immigration, disappearing middle class, etc. were accepted as the new normal.

    Too much money and too many lobbyists, pressure groups and Wall St. owned media, etc. protecting the special interests and their gov't funded cash cows. The USA is in decline, and we're not even allowed to have a debate about it....let alone vote for the candidate we believe can find a way out.

  • wild_sky360

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    Dec 12, 2015 6:12 PM GMT
    I don't see what their concern is. None of the other candidates has a chance against Hillary. They both have similar unfavorable ratings, although hers are derived more from perceived lack of character/integrity and his from an abrasive personality which should be considered a lesser flaw.
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    Dec 12, 2015 6:32 PM GMT
    rnch saidLet's Face Facts here, double F. I am not a died-in-the-wool Democrat, but I can see the obvious here.

    The GOP/TEA party will loose the 2015 POTUS election.

    There is NOBODY in the current clown car a majority of Americans will vote for.

    IF...IF the GOP regroups and removes the TEA party crazies and the Religious Right from platform making; PERHAPS they might stand a chance in the 2024 POTUS election.

    Hillary will be the Democratic party candidate; and she will win with a huge majority.




    "The GOP/TEA party will loose the 2015 POTUS election."

    Seriously?
  • wild_sky360

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    Dec 12, 2015 6:55 PM GMT
    A lesser candidate than Trump could challenge Hillary if this movie gets any sort of traction the way American Sniper did.
    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/426607/13-hours-michael-bay-benghazi-hillary-clinton

    Otherwise there are no other real contenders. He has the blood thirst to hammer her with it too. No Establishment candidate would dare to touch the issue except around the perimeter; ie emails, lies, etc.

    I saw the trailer for this movie in a theater couple nights ago and it riled up the crowd. Without mentioning the administration, her office, or her name in the trailer, people were shouting
    "Hillary For Prison 2016". It should be an interesting year.
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    Dec 12, 2015 7:02 PM GMT
    rnch saidLet's Face Facts here, double F. I am not a died-in-the-wool Democrat, but I can see the obvious here.

    The GOP/TEA party will loose the 2015 POTUS election.

    There is NOBODY in the current clown car a majority of Americans will vote for.

    IF...IF the GOP regroups and removes the TEA party crazies and the Religious Right from platform making; PERHAPS they might stand a chance in the 2024 POTUS election.

    Hillary will be the Democratic party candidate; and she will win with a huge majority.



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    Dec 12, 2015 8:54 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree said
    rnch saidLet's Face Facts here, double F. I am not a died-in-the-wool Democrat, but I can see the obvious here.

    The GOP/TEA party will loose the 2015 POTUS election.

    There is NOBODY in the current clown car a majority of Americans will vote for.

    IF...IF the GOP regroups and removes the TEA party crazies and the Religious Right from platform making; PERHAPS they might stand a chance in the 2024 POTUS election.

    Hillary will be the Democratic party candidate; and she will win with a huge majority.




    "The GOP/TEA party will loose the 2015 POTUS election."

    Seriously?





    Typical of today's GOP, to TRY to dwell on some nit picking, small change, typo error....to divert attention away from the "Big Picture".

    I note that double F did not contest my conclusion.....
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    Dec 12, 2015 10:15 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree said
    Yeah, Bob, we got it, we really do .... you hate Republicans ... as you've said in what, 35,000+ posts now. Hopefully, they hate you just as much.

    Yeah, that's cute. But you haven't addressed the issue. What's the Republican Party gonna do with Trump?
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    Dec 13, 2015 2:06 AM GMT
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    freedomisntfree said
    Yeah, Bob, we got it, we really do .... you hate Republicans ... as you've said in what, 35,000+ posts now. Hopefully, they hate you just as much.

    Yeah, that's cute. But you haven't addressed the issue. What's the Republican Party gonna do with Trump?


    Thank him! Donald Trump is bringing people back into the Republican party.

    Trump reminds me of Ronald Reagan in certain ways. Both had successful careers prior to running. Both have big, bold ideas to save the country from the ruins of a weak president. This Reagan commercial is 36 years old, but certainly highlights our current foreign policy problem.


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    Dec 13, 2015 2:21 AM GMT
    tj85016 saidwell, the Republicans never had an problem with subverting the voters before, why start now? icon_lol.gif




    Yes, Gore v Bush and the hanging chads come to mind icon_lol.gif

    You see, they 'had' to win that year no matter what (the christian planned 9/11 was already in the works) icon_twisted.gif

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    Dec 13, 2015 2:58 AM GMT
    freedomisntfree said
    rnch saidThe biggest problem today's GOP faces is: If they "Dump Trump"; who is left? The fading pretty boi with financial issues? Bush lite? The Canadian? The addle brained Doctor?

    The GOP "power brokers" would be smart to draft their looser from past elections, Mitt Romney. Perhaps if he "takes one for the team" and goes down in flames (again) the GOP/TEA can save further election humiliations.

    Speaking as a long term GOP supporter (I defected in RR's second term); there is NOBODY in the GOP/TEA "Clown Car" this election that I can or would vote for.



    Kasich
    YESicon_exclaim.gif The Governor of Ohio is probably the most qualified for the office of President especially in terms of economic and fiscal issues. If the GOP leadership would wise up and support this man and drop all the narrow minded bible thumping screwballs than I could see myself supporting the republican bid for the White House. Governor Kasich is far more qualified for the White House than the hapless Hillary ho. This man worked hard and earned everything in life in stark contrast to what's her face the incompetent, power hungry whore who has had everything handed to her on a silver platter up to including the Secretary of State position in which she was a disastrous flop.