Tiny houses

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    Dec 12, 2015 7:14 PM GMT
    https://www.yahoo.com/katiecouric/inside-the-tiny-house-revolution-145513615.html

    Anyone go this route?
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    Dec 12, 2015 8:21 PM GMT
    The La mansione syndrome in the US is unsustainable. It's wasteful. It's pretentious.

    I grew up on a farm, where most people didn't understand city life. "How can they live so closely?" they'd say. Few live on farms anymore. Agribusiness has eliminated the small farmer. A small farm couldn't compete.

    But people still wanted their 'space', at least internally.

    When I was 12 I saw in the news, the Montreal habitat for the worlds fair in 1967. I thought it was brilliant and beautiful. while they ended up being expensive to build (setting up a prefab factory wasn't cheap) the idea is still right. If they had gone modular, as in 'mobile home' it would have been more economical. I'd envision a concrete superstructure with slide in units. Not unlike the QMII.

    I think it's long overdue. As automobiles went form "longer, lower and wider" in the late 50s, they are now more compact and function driven. Of course there are still Escalades and Mc Mansions in suburbia, and that's fine for some or even many.

    Now I live in a 590 SF condo in Palm Springs where larger is still better. They are small but the grounds are like a golf course (drier these days!) with views all around and trees of all kinds. I don't need a lot of SF, but i love the external space. Utilities are much less A/C in the summer is around $75 a month. I know people who spend $600.

  • metta

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    Dec 13, 2015 3:29 AM GMT
    Those homes look uncomfortable to me. I do plan on downsizing eventually but not to 400 square feet. I have a couple large pieces of art that I want to keep and at least a couple pieces of furniture that I want to keep. They need to be in large rooms to fit properly. Only 2 of the rooms need to be large for me: the family room and my bedroom. Some of my neighbors have been talking about possibly doing some kind of co-housing project, where we have a large main building with a large kitchen where we can eat the major meals together. And then we would each have small homes with a kitchenette, large living area, bedrooms, etc. And it is important to have a lot of storage space. The holiday decorations alone take up a lot of space.
  • HottJoe

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    Dec 13, 2015 3:35 AM GMT
    I'm a homebody and a recovering hoarder, (it's been 8 days since I cleaned out my basement and garage.)icon_eek.gif
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    Dec 13, 2015 4:18 AM GMT
    Here, anything that has a three or four car garage has about 5,000 sq ft of house and five or six bedrooms to go along with that. I don't want that.

    So I ended up with 1,750 square feet main floor and that foot print as a basement.

    The basement wraps as a U around my audio room so insulates it very well from anyone being able to hear so I can listen late at night.

    That's just enough space although I wish I had a three or four car garage.

    We need more indoor space because we're not able to be outside as much year round as in SoCal.

    If I were to build from scratch, I very likely would choose one of these http://rosschapin.com/plans/


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    Dec 13, 2015 4:58 AM GMT
    Not good for a home on or near the beach with the tides rising!! lol
  • SilverRRCloud

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    Dec 13, 2015 6:05 AM GMT
    Luck has it that I am spending most of my time at my smallest homeicon_rolleyes.gif which has just a tad over 2,000 square feet. And it works like a charm.

    I built it in 2012 supported by two most gifted architects who enjoyed (and still do) my full trust.

    I figured out that my lifestyle has been changing, and that I wanted a home to fully reflect those changes.

    Six bedrooms and six baths for a single dude?

    I also figured out that I loved the loft living. So, I created a 1,000 square feet living+media+fireplace+observation deck+writing desk space, and added a gorgeous aft deck terrace with folding glass for my friends and me to enjoy the outdoors without really going out of the house. (Comes in handy for the dudes who still smoke, and for those who complain that the heating is 'too much',)

    I got a kitchen with both indoor and outdoor (and al fresco) dining, a large master bath, a moderately sized master bedroom (I am not much of a sleeper.) And, yeah, there is guest washroom.

    No guest bedroom/bathroom? Nope. I have two wonderful suites downtown that can easily house up to 6 folks visiting at the same time. This has never really happened. 4 guys is the top at the same time.

    So, we have great meals, pop up couple of bottles of good champagne, and when alls done, they go to enjoy the privacy of their suites, and I stay here on the shore, enjoying my loft. No one ever gets in anyone's way. No one's ever early/late for breakfast. Everybody gets to make their morning coffee the way they like to do it, and yup, it all works pretty well.

    SC

    PS. Niemeyer was wrong. Architecture matters majorly. It can significantly improve your life.

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    Dec 13, 2015 11:40 PM GMT
    Well, a 500 SF condo costs $500,000 in SF. Is that is not small enuf they are proposing micro units at 360 SF for $300,000.
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    Dec 14, 2015 12:32 AM GMT
    Alpha13 saidWell, a 500 SF condo costs $500,000 in SF. Is that is not small enuf they are proposing micro units at 360 SF for $300,000.


    That's a good reason not to live in San Francisco except for people who bought a home when prices were lower.
  • Webster666

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    Dec 14, 2015 6:02 AM GMT
    I grew up living in a 21 room house, and, since then, I've never had enough space. No, I'm definitely not a hoarder...
  • HottJoe

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    Dec 14, 2015 6:24 AM GMT
    Webster666 saidI grew up living in a 21 room house, and, since then, I've never had enough space. No, I'm definitely not a hoarder...

    This almost reads like a riddle....

    I'm going to guess Bruce Wayne.
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    Dec 14, 2015 5:34 PM GMT
    I was really surprised to find out these were allowed in Houston given the cities wonderful lack of zoning. I can't remember the details but I think houses do have to be a certain size though putting these on wheels exempts them from this or if the are extremely tiny they no longer count as houses.
  • LJay

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    Dec 14, 2015 7:33 PM GMT
    My house is about 1300 square feet. It was about 100 square feet before the previous owners, who built the original house in the 1930's enlarged it in the 60's. Three children were raised here. It is a bungalow and very simple in design. It is also comfortable, and far from overwrought. I would love to have a huge place for a playhouse, but my house is built beautifully for everyday life. I am now retired. It is not overwhelming for me. I can put the rocker on the porch in the summer and enjoy watching the snow in the winter. When I am finished with it, it will make a fine home for a young couple or a bachelor or two or an old couple or a small family. It isn't showy, but it is a wonderful place. Bigger is not always better.
  • metta

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    Dec 14, 2015 7:34 PM GMT
    ^
    That sounds like a nice size to me. I'm thinking that I might eventually want to downsize to something like 1300-1800, but not sure if I can do it.
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    Dec 14, 2015 7:54 PM GMT
    My experience is the bigger the place I have, the more "stuff" I acquire.

    A lot of the "I need a big house" mentality seems like keeping up with the Jones's. Or it ranks up there with MONSTER 4x4 trucks in the "I've got a small penis" compensation department. icon_cool.gif

    Just kidding (somewhat true) but I downsized and wanted a simpler life. But I would love a 4 car garage with a GT40, 69 Cougar 428CJ, 69 Cougar GTE, new GT350R, and a Lehmann-Peterson Lincoln Limo! Oops that's 5!
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    Dec 14, 2015 7:58 PM GMT
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    Dec 15, 2015 12:51 AM GMT
    Why you might retire to a tiny house — by choice

    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/story?guid=59d5f5e6-9eaf-11e5-b767-7a8eac0a29c3&storyguid=59d5f5e6-9eaf-11e5-b767-7a8eac0a29c3&siteid=nwhpf
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    Dec 15, 2015 2:39 AM GMT
    timmm55 saidMy experience is the bigger the place I have, the more "stuff" I acquire.

    A lot of the "I need a big house" mentality seems like keeping up with the Jones's. Or it ranks up there with MONSTER 4x4 trucks in the "I've got a small penis" compensation department. icon_cool.gif

    Just kidding (somewhat true) but I downsized and wanted a simpler life. But I would love a 4 car garage with a GT40, 69 Cougar 428CJ, 69 Cougar GTE, new GT350R, and a Lehmann-Peterson Lincoln Limo! Oops that's 5!


    That makes it six !!!!

    GTE was only 1968 I believe. 428 CJ and SCJ were available both years. 429 CJ started coming on in 1969 along with the two Boss 429s ever made were both 1969.
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    Dec 15, 2015 2:54 AM GMT
    There are several of these that are as cute as a button that can make that under 1,000 sq ft house seem like a home

    http://rosschapin.com/plans/cottages/
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    Dec 15, 2015 3:00 AM GMT
    Alpha13 saidWell, a 500 SF condo costs $500,000 in SF. Is that is not small enuf they are proposing micro units at 360 SF for $300,000.


    During the housing boom of the late 1980's an average 3 bedroom home in Pasadena, CA was appreciating at the approximate rate of 40k per month. I had saved quite a sum of money but I decided that it was not worth it and I asked my employer for a transfer to Tampa. I bought a beautiful craftsman style bungalow in an older neighborhood of the city for $115K. My mortgage was $200 less than my monthly rent in Calif.
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    Dec 15, 2015 3:22 AM GMT
    freedomisntfree said
    timmm55 saidMy experience is the bigger the place I have, the more "stuff" I acquire.

    A lot of the "I need a big house" mentality seems like keeping up with the Jones's. Or it ranks up there with MONSTER 4x4 trucks in the "I've got a small penis" compensation department. icon_cool.gif

    Just kidding (somewhat true) but I downsized and wanted a simpler life. But I would love a 4 car garage with a 1-GT40, 2 69 Cougar 428CJ, 3 68 Cougar GTE, 4 new GT350R, and a 5 Lehmann-Peterson Lincoln Limo! Oops that's 5!


    That makes it six !!!!

    GTE was only 1968 I believe. 428 CJ and SCJ were available both years. 429 CJ started coming on in 1969 along with the two Boss 429s ever made were both 1969.


    No that is 5!

    69 was a typo. GT-E first cam with a W code 427, then an R code 428, April 68. 428 CJ/SCJ went through 1970 in Cougars. 429 Thunderjets were already in 69 Thunderbirds. 429 CJ/SCJ (and TJs) were in Torinos/Montegos in 70-71.

    http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2014/03/18/one-of-two-boss-429-powered-mercury-cougars-heading-to-carlisle-ford-nationals/
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    Dec 15, 2015 4:21 AM GMT
    timmm55 said
    freedomisntfree said
    timmm55 saidMy experience is the bigger the place I have, the more "stuff" I acquire.

    A lot of the "I need a big house" mentality seems like keeping up with the Jones's. Or it ranks up there with MONSTER 4x4 trucks in the "I've got a small penis" compensation department. icon_cool.gif

    Just kidding (somewhat true) but I downsized and wanted a simpler life. But I would love a 4 car garage with a 1-GT40, 2 69 Cougar 428CJ, 3 68 Cougar GTE, 4 new GT350R, and a 5 Lehmann-Peterson Lincoln Limo! Oops that's 5!


    That makes it six !!!!

    GTE was only 1968 I believe. 428 CJ and SCJ were available both years. 429 CJ started coming on in 1969 along with the two Boss 429s ever made were both 1969.


    No that is 5!

    69 was a typo. GT-E first cam with a W code 427, then an R code 428, April 68. 428 CJ/SCJ went through 1970 in Cougars. 429 Thunderjets were already in 69 Thunderbirds. 429 CJ/SCJ (and TJs) were in Torinos/Montegos in 70-71.

    http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2014/03/18/one-of-two-boss-429-powered-mercury-cougars-heading-to-carlisle-ford-nationals/


    "Lehmann-Peterson Lincoln Limo"

    This doesn't count as two?

    "GT-E first cam with a W code 427, then an R code 428, April 68. 428 CJ/SCJ went through 1970 in Cougars"

    Correct.

    68 GTE was my all time favorite Cougar and second favorite Merc ever after the 64 427 Marauder.