The west's wild horses have become a problem, but what to do?

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    Dec 14, 2015 9:51 PM GMT
    http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2015/12/wild_feral_horses_are_bad_for_the_environment_in_the_west.html
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    Dec 14, 2015 10:16 PM GMT
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    I absolutely love horses. Been riding since I was a very little kid. My brother's got a ranch near the house for them. My niece jumped before discovering boys--so now her horse the last I saw it was fat. My last great ride was with my partner before he died, on a horse that threw me, actually, still a great day, but that was before a bad construction accident kept me off horses. I still love being around them.

    So for me the most terrible answer but maybe the most practical and oddly humane (by keeping the rest alive) is culling. I'd never be able to make that decision, otherwise I'd have loved a career in forestry. I've not studied the issue but I suppose an alternative might be spaying and neutering like we do with stray dogs and cats but I don't know if that's possible with the extent of their range.

    My SIL has trained a badly abused horse to be a real nice one. Still skittish and not ridden but real friendly now. So I've had that experience but I've never seen an actual feral or wild one in the wild. I bet that must be a beautiful sight. I don't know how a hunter might be able to take aim at that but that might be the horrible answer.

    That's something I wouldn't protest but I would mourn.
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    Dec 14, 2015 10:32 PM GMT
    Humans are destroying the planet. Quit scapegoating horses, you animal!!!icon_mad.gif
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    Dec 14, 2015 11:03 PM GMT
    Totally insane that we're spending at least $291 million a year to manage feral horses. We can't even pay our bills. Gov't run amuk.

    Unless some private group wants to take over, I say let's send them to that big horse barn in the sky.

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    Dec 14, 2015 11:55 PM GMT
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    I absolutely love horses. Been riding since I was a very little kid. My brother's got a ranch near the house for them. My niece jumped before discovering boys--so now her horse the last I saw it was fat. My last great ride was with my partner before he died, on a horse that threw me, actually, still a great day, but that was before a bad construction accident kept me off horses. I still love being around them.

    So for me the most terrible answer but maybe the most practical and oddly humane (by keeping the rest alive) is culling. I'd never be able to make that decision, otherwise I'd have loved a career in forestry. I've not studied the issue but I suppose an alternative might be spaying and neutering like we do with stray dogs and cats but I don't know if that's possible with the extent of their range.

    My SIL has trained a badly abused horse to be a real nice one. Still skittish and not ridden but real friendly now. So I've had that experience but I've never seen an actual feral or wild one in the wild. I bet that must be a beautiful sight. I don't know how a hunter might be able to take aim at that but that might be the horrible answer.

    That's something I wouldn't protest but I would mourn.


    I sure couldn't do it.

    "I've never seen an actual feral or wild one in the wild."

    I have and I couldn't pull the trigger.
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    Dec 14, 2015 11:59 PM GMT
    S2Ki saidTotally insane that we're spending at least $291 million a year to manage feral horses. We can't even pay our bills. Gov't run amuk.

    Unless some private group wants to take over, I say let's send them to that big horse barn in the sky.


    Well said.
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    Dec 15, 2015 12:17 AM GMT
    CROMLO59 said
    S2Ki saidTotally insane that we're spending at least $291 million a year to manage feral horses. We can't even pay our bills. Gov't run amuk.

    Unless some private group wants to take over, I say let's send them to that big horse barn in the sky.


    Well said.


    7,300,000,000,000 humans around, time for a billion or so to go to the big barn in the sky too icon_confused.gif
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    Dec 15, 2015 1:43 AM GMT
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    I sure couldn't do it.

    "I've never seen an actual feral or wild one in the wild."

    I have and I couldn't pull the trigger.


    That's where you're not such a God awful conservative (I'm being kind here) as opposed to the scum who are either full of shit or simply disgusting.

    Facts are facts. Money is not the only fact. Fact is that we have these magnificent animals existing, running wild on the plains. So to save a buck they're gonna what, let the blood flow? For all the fucking money spent on campaign advertising, what the fuck would that announce about our humanity.

    Or are the psychopathic brave souls who want to save a buck (let's reflect for a moment on the $1.9 billion of merely what's known spent on the 2012 prez race) are they willing to go out in person to slash the graceful necks of the 40whateverthousand left. I say with a knife because you might as well be Kosher about it and assure the jobs done with the least amount of pain. Anyone wanna sex up the horse killers after they come home from their hard day's work? Bring them home to meet mother?

    In 1900 there were 2 million wild horses. To make room for hamburger, now there's what 30 or 40 thousand left? Yet these guys still want more blood on our hands. They are disgusting.

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    I wouldn't have thought so of you. Still, glad you said you are not that. Thank you.
  • musclmed

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    Dec 15, 2015 4:58 AM GMT
    didnt the sec of interior Ken Salazar pay to have the sold as horsemeat?

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    Dec 16, 2015 2:21 PM GMT
    tj85016 said
    CROMLO59 said
    S2Ki saidTotally insane that we're spending at least $291 million a year to manage feral horses. We can't even pay our bills. Gov't run amuk.

    Unless some private group wants to take over, I say let's send them to that big horse barn in the sky.


    Well said.


    7,300,000,000,000 humans around, time for a billion or so to go to the big barn in the sky too icon_confused.gif


    Well, if you're so concerned about over population you can do your small part and off yourself.

    It's better to light a candle (or in this case snuff one out) than to curse the darkness.

    And be a dear and do us all a favor and take HottJoe with you when you go. Make your last act a humanitarian one.
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    Dec 16, 2015 2:32 PM GMT
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    Dec 16, 2015 3:56 PM GMT
    UndercoverMan said
    tj85016 said
    CROMLO59 said
    S2Ki saidTotally insane that we're spending at least $291 million a year to manage feral horses. We can't even pay our bills. Gov't run amuk.

    Unless some private group wants to take over, I say let's send them to that big horse barn in the sky.


    Well said.


    7,300,000,000,000 humans around, time for a billion or so to go to the big barn in the sky too icon_confused.gif


    Well, if you're so concerned about over population you can do your small part and off yourself.

    It's better to light a candle (or in this case snuff one out) than to curse the darkness.

    And be a dear and do us all a favor and take HottJoe with you when you go. Make your last act a humanitarian one.

    Are you just pulling my hair so I'll click on you?icon_wink.gif