Some Muslims are trying

  • tazzari

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    Dec 15, 2015 7:21 PM GMT
    A Seattle imam who is actually trying:

    http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/eastside/imam-tells-what-we-need-to-do-to-fight-religious-radicalism/

    I wonder how much of this there really is? I suspect much more than we see in the media: terrorism makes much better headlines than people actually trying to bridge the gaps, and so much of America has decided that all Muslims are evil.

    We've had Imams speak at our church - there has to be outreach from both sides. But the real trick is getting people to attend or even notice.

    Now for all you "all-religion-is-bad" folks! icon_smile.gif
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    Dec 15, 2015 9:04 PM GMT
    Well, I tend to believe all religion is bad; but that doesn't mean good people can't be religious.
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    Dec 15, 2015 9:11 PM GMT
    tazzari saidA Seattle imam who is actually trying:

    http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/eastside/imam-tells-what-we-need-to-do-to-fight-religious-radicalism/

    I wonder how much of this there really is? I suspect much more than we see in the media: terrorism makes much better headlines than people actually trying to bridge the gaps, and so much of America has decided that all Muslims are evil.

    We've had Imams speak at our church - there has to be outreach from both sides. But the real trick is getting people to attend or even notice.

    Now for all you "all-religion-is-bad" folks! icon_smile.gif


    "I wonder how much of this there really is?"

    Not nearly enough. I suspect that Muslim youth around here are becoming radicalized in the big mosque in Dublin. Maybe not from the Iman, but certainly from other local Muslims. I heard it in their very loud and vocal Jew hate. Not something we're accustomed to here in the Columbus area.
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    Dec 15, 2015 9:11 PM GMT
    tazzari said...

    Now for all you "all-religion-is-bad" folks! icon_smile.gif


    Not just religion but any ideology that doesn't allow people to think for themselves.
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    Dec 15, 2015 9:12 PM GMT
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    tazzari said...

    Now for all you "all-religion-is-bad" folks! icon_smile.gif


    Not just religion but any ideology that doesn't allow people to think for themselves.


    Including Leftism.
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    Dec 15, 2015 10:01 PM GMT
    And another: http://myedmondsnews.com/2015/12/hundreds-gather-for-dialogue-on-building-community-rejecting-anti-muslim-rhetoric/
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    Dec 16, 2015 5:18 AM GMT
    freedomisntfree said
    UndercoverMan said
    tazzari said...

    Now for all you "all-religion-is-bad" folks! icon_smile.gif


    Not just religion but any ideology that doesn't allow people to think for themselves.


    Including Leftism.


    Touché
  • AMoonHawk

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    Dec 16, 2015 6:52 AM GMT
    All religions suck so theirs is no different. Suck it up just like the rest of the religions that get criticized.
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    Dec 16, 2015 11:27 AM GMT
    its all about how Mexicans rape and thieve. Muslims are terrorists and black men can dance. no. its all about who is next gay man,

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    Dec 17, 2015 11:13 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree said
    UndercoverMan said
    tazzari said...

    Now for all you "all-religion-is-bad" folks! icon_smile.gif


    Not just religion but any ideology that doesn't allow people to think for themselves.


    Including Leftism.


    And including rightism.
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    Dec 17, 2015 11:14 PM GMT
    FRE0 said
    freedomisntfree said
    UndercoverMan said
    tazzari said...

    Now for all you "all-religion-is-bad" folks! icon_smile.gif


    Not just religion but any ideology that doesn't allow people to think for themselves.


    Including Leftism.


    And including rightism.


    ButT mostly leftism.
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    Dec 17, 2015 11:33 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree said
    UndercoverMan said
    tazzari said...

    Now for all you "all-religion-is-bad" folks! icon_smile.gif


    Not just religion but any ideology that doesn't allow people to think for themselves.


    Including Leftism.

    The essence of Liberalism is respect for independent thought. The essence of Conservatism is a requirement for rigid dogmatic thought. Oddly, one of the things the Left is criticized by the Right for being is permissive. How can Liberals be both permissive and yet block free thought at the same time?

    It's also a perverse Right Wing tendency to misrepresent their ideological opponents, as being something they are not. That's been a pattern since the early days of right-wing Fascism at the beginning of the 20th-Century, which continues to this day.

    It's sort of like the psychological phenomenon of Projection, on a vaster and deliberate scale. Accuse your opponents of the very thing which you are doing yourself, to confuse the issue, and to undermine them. But keep doing it yourself. It's actually a very effective tactic, which targets the less informed & less engaged public with great success.