Black men who don't date OTHER black men

  • zelon1

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    Dec 17, 2015 2:05 AM GMT
    I find it very bizarre and it's pretty common out here in SF. I was lucky to find my current boyfriend but I really had to search high & low for him....lord knows I've been shot down by so many fellow black brothers out here. I don't know where the self-hate comes from, but I refuse to date outside my race unless there's a very strong connection w/ said person.
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    Dec 17, 2015 2:08 AM GMT
    yea me too I tend to like other Asian guys and they all seem to want white dick, however all the white guys seem to be interested in me.

    -_-

  • zelon1

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    Dec 17, 2015 3:00 AM GMT
    Ahri saidyea me too I tend to like other Asian guys and they all seem to want white dick, however all the white guys seem to be interested in me.

    -_-



    I know it's so weird. Nice to see another minority who prefers his own race.
    It's even worse on apps like jack'd where I primarily get attention from white guys and no men of color.
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    Dec 17, 2015 3:12 AM GMT
    try tinder it's way better plus the guys you don't want to talk to can't talk to you unless both of you find each other attractive using the "like" button or right swiping each other.
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    Dec 17, 2015 3:20 AM GMT
    A. I refuse to date outside my race unless there's a very strong connection w/ said person.

    B. I refuse to date inside my race unless there's a very strong connection w/ said person.

    Please explain how "A" is not racist but "B" is.
  • smegnificient

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    Dec 17, 2015 3:57 AM GMT
    Tons of white members say they won't date specific races or outside their own, and it's totally acceptable, plus you 2 go out of your way to defend those people, "preferences", "the same as not liking women" etc, so why is it now tasteless?

    Where's Undercoverman? He's late to the Klan meeting here...
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    Dec 17, 2015 4:27 AM GMT
    I've gotten to the point where I welcome white guys who say they don't date black guys. It doesn't make the world a better place if they think it, practice it and say it around like minded people but keep it to themselves. If minorities had some self respect and stopped thirsting after white guys like they are the keys to happiness, respect, legitimacy, and success they'd probably end up more desired by those same white guys and happier with guys who actually want them for them.
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    Dec 17, 2015 4:44 AM GMT
    Come on guys stop nagging!!!

    Nobody likes naggers!!!
  • badbug

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    Dec 17, 2015 12:44 PM GMT
    Nobody likes naggers!!!


    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


    That's the second gem i've seen from that guy the past week. And to think, i hated him with all my heart and prayed to all the gods in all the heavens to give me the power to destroy him. Now i merely want to injure him.....which is good news for me, cause it means a lot less praying. I think maybe the help of like 3 gods max will be enough.



    I don't really have much to add about the topic except being bisexual, i don't generally like black women but do generally like black men. What's that about?
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    Dec 17, 2015 8:10 PM GMT
    zelon1 saidI don't know where the self-hate comes from

    That's always the recurring question to me: why do so many black guys not want to date other black guys?
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    Dec 19, 2015 3:53 AM GMT
    The answer to that question is honestly quite obvious. We all have our preferences when it comes to lust, and otherwise. Why does it matter that a Black man prefer a white or Hispanic man over someone of his own race. It just seems redundant to even bring it up.
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    Dec 19, 2015 4:11 AM GMT
    RPGFanatic saidThe answer to that question is honestly quite obvious. We all have our preferences when it comes to lust, and otherwise. Why does it matter that a Black man prefer a white or Hispanic man over someone of his own race. It just seems redundant to even bring it up.

    I would agree that it's redundant except that the percentage of black guys who prefer non blacks seems very high. Much higher than would seem normal.
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    Dec 19, 2015 4:56 AM GMT
    That's an interesting insertion, however I do not see how that is of any consequence. I believe that if you truly wish to exclude a particular demographic from your pool of suitable mates, or flings. That is all a matter of attraction.

    It makes sense to narrow your parameters to find the right guy for you. Now I am not saying that everyone may operate in that fashion of course, perhaps there is some merit to some of the previous post.

    But in the end, it shouldn't really matter if a man prefers to be in an interracial relationship. I understand that it can be hard to find a partner that shares our skin tone, but that doesn't mean it's an impossible task.

  • fix24

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    Dec 19, 2015 7:46 PM GMT
    zelon1 saidI find it very bizarre and it's pretty common out here in SF. I was lucky to find my current boyfriend but I really had to search high & low for him....lord knows I've been shot down by so many fellow black brothers out here. I don't know where the self-hate comes from, but I refuse to date outside my race unless there's a very strong connection w/ said person.



    What is this, 1970s. God created us to embrace human being regardless of race and ethnicity. Yet you want an exclusive all black club. This is America. A country that is full of diversity. If you want to live in an all black society. America is not the place for you. Sorry.
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    zelon1 saidI find it very bizarre and it's pretty common out here in SF. I was lucky to find my current boyfriend but I really had to search high & low for him....lord knows I've been shot down by so many fellow black brothers out here. I don't know where the self-hate comes from, but I refuse to date outside my race unless there's a very strong connection w/ said person.



    What is this, 1970s. God created us to embrace human being regardless of race and ethnicity. Yet you want an exclusive all black club. This is America. A country that is full of diversity. If you want to live in an all black society. America is not the place for you. Sorry.


    Not true just because America is culturally diverse. Doesn't mean that America is able to integrate multiculturaly. There are a lot of barriers minorities have to go through to be deemed as sociably acceptable and this translates even through dating.
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    Dec 21, 2015 3:20 PM GMT
    smegnificient saidTons of white members say they won't date specific races or outside their own, and it's totally acceptable, plus you 2 go out of your way to defend those people, "preferences", "the same as not liking women" etc, so why is it now tasteless?

    Where's Undercoverman? He's late to the Klan meeting here...


    UndercoverMan doesn't give a flying fig who anyone dates or the reason they do so. UcM is out of the dating game and married to a Latino. Choke on that SmegmaBreath.
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    Dec 21, 2015 11:25 PM GMT
    I think men in general are physically beautiful, but I do love Black men. And the White men that have been into me, or that I dated in the past, always mentioned my "size" or that they've never been with a Black guy, or that I look good for a Black guy. So, it quickly turned me off, as I didn't want to be anyone's fetish or experiment. Then I found out that ALL of the men I liked in the past only wanted sex. That's another story.


    Anyway, there is a hierarchy in the gay world, shoot, in the world really. In the gay world it is this:

    White men are the GODS of the universe. The whiter and paler, the better.

    Light-skinned Latinos and Middle Eastern men are second (close ties).

    Tanned latinos, Indians, or mixed race men are next (but not too dark).

    Everything that isn't Asian or Black are next in line, again, not too Black.

    Asian men are next in line, unless White men REALLY prefer Asians over anyone else.

    Black men are at the bottom of the line, and that's that. The darker you are, the worse you are.

    In conclusion, when any man sees this standard of beauty in the media and they aren't strong enough to look past it, they want that ideal standard of beauty. Which is why MANY Black gay men today are "thirsty" for White men, and will never consider dating a Black man.

    It's one thing to date all kinds of races, it is a completely different thing to date exclusively out of your race.
  • Fireworkz

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    Dec 24, 2015 12:43 PM GMT
    visastamp saidI think men in general are physically beautiful, but I do love Black men. And the White men that have been into me, or that I dated in the past, always mentioned my "size" or that they've never been with a Black guy, or that I look good for a Black guy. So, it quickly turned me off, as I didn't want to be anyone's fetish or experiment. Then I found out that ALL of the men I liked in the past only wanted sex. That's another story.


    Anyway, there is a hierarchy in the gay world, shoot, in the world really. In the gay world it is this:

    White men are the GODS of the universe. The whiter and paler, the better.

    Light-skinned Latinos and Middle Eastern men are second (close ties).

    Tanned latinos, Indians, or mixed race men are next (but not too dark).

    Everything that isn't Asian or Black are next in line, again, not too Black.

    Asian men are next in line, unless White men REALLY prefer Asians over anyone else.

    Black men are at the bottom of the line, and that's that. The darker you are, the worse you are.

    In conclusion, when any man sees this standard of beauty in the media and they aren't strong enough to look past it, they want that ideal standard of beauty. Which is why MANY Black gay men today are "thirsty" for White men, and will never consider dating a Black man.

    It's one thing to date all kinds of races, it is a completely different thing to date exclusively out of your race.



    I think the hierarchy is in your head and is irrelevant. We are in the information age. An age of niches. Anyone who wants anything can find it. Most people are not interested in the main stream and can ignore it. That's why there are parties, meetups groups for bears, twinks, jocks etc.
    Choosing is democratic. If you are into black you can meet black, if you are into interracial there are groups for that.

    All the white guys I know have preferences. Some are into middle eastern, some into black, some into white, some into Latino. They are not working from a hierarchy. They don't go "I'll have a Latino because there are no whites around". If someone goes for a racial group it's because they like that group not because there are not enough whites to go round.


    As for the media. Black guys who are looking for black guys will ignore the mainstream media and find what they are looking for somewhere other than the mainstream.

    I certainly don't see myself at the bottom of any hierarchy and even if that hierarchy was true it isn't the case here in the UK. I'm wondering where you are getting your information from.

    I think you only see these things if you are not loving self. When you love self you don't see the world in that way.




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    visastamp saidI think men in general are physically beautiful, but I do love Black men. And the White men that have been into me, or that I dated in the past, always mentioned my "size" or that they've never been with a Black guy, or that I look good for a Black guy. So, it quickly turned me off, as I didn't want to be anyone's fetish or experiment. Then I found out that ALL of the men I liked in the past only wanted sex. That's another story.


    Anyway, there is a hierarchy in the gay world, shoot, in the world really. In the gay world it is this:

    White men are the GODS of the universe. The whiter and paler, the better.

    Light-skinned Latinos and Middle Eastern men are second (close ties).

    Tanned latinos, Indians, or mixed race men are next (but not too dark).

    Everything that isn't Asian or Black are next in line, again, not too Black.

    Asian men are next in line, unless White men REALLY prefer Asians over anyone else.

    Black men are at the bottom of the line, and that's that. The darker you are, the worse you are.

    In conclusion, when any man sees this standard of beauty in the media and they aren't strong enough to look past it, they want that ideal standard of beauty. Which is why MANY Black gay men today are "thirsty" for White men, and will never consider dating a Black man.

    It's one thing to date all kinds of races, it is a completely different thing to date exclusively out of your race.



    I think the hierarchy is in your head and is irrelevant. We are in the information age. An age of niches. Anyone who wants anything can find it. Most people are not interested in the main stream and can ignore it. That's why there are parties, meetups groups for bears, twinks, jocks etc.
    Choosing is democratic. If you are into black you can meet black, if you are into interracial there are groups for that.

    All the white guys I know have preferences. Some are into middle eastern, some into black, some into white, some into Latino. They are not working from a hierarchy. They don't go "I'll have a Latino because there are no whites around". If someone goes for a racial group it's because they like that group not because there are not enough whites to go round.


    As for the media. Black guys who are looking for black guys will ignore the mainstream media and find what they are looking for somewhere other than the mainstream.

    I certainly don't see myself at the bottom of any hierarchy and even if that hierarchy was true it isn't the case here in the UK. I'm wondering where you are getting your information from.

    I think you only see these things if you are not loving self. When you love self you don't see the world in that way.






    A person can love themselves and see a racial hierarchy. You seem to use your vision of " loving one's self" to dismiss people and their opinions. Speaking for myself I do see a racial hierarchy and I love myself. I think its unfortunate. I think it can be deeming at times the way old, out of shape white men will approach young men of color. I also believe the hierarchy its perpetuated from both sides. Old out of shape white men will tell you how young minorities throw themselves at them looking for a sugar daddy. That doesn't mean I don't love myself. It just means I notice the behaviors of others.
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    visastamp saidI think men in general are physically beautiful, but I do love Black men. And the White men that have been into me, or that I dated in the past, always mentioned my "size" or that they've never been with a Black guy, or that I look good for a Black guy. So, it quickly turned me off, as I didn't want to be anyone's fetish or experiment. Then I found out that ALL of the men I liked in the past only wanted sex. That's another story.


    Anyway, there is a hierarchy in the gay world, shoot, in the world really. In the gay world it is this:

    White men are the GODS of the universe. The whiter and paler, the better.

    Light-skinned Latinos and Middle Eastern men are second (close ties).

    Tanned latinos, Indians, or mixed race men are next (but not too dark).

    Everything that isn't Asian or Black are next in line, again, not too Black.

    Asian men are next in line, unless White men REALLY prefer Asians over anyone else.

    Black men are at the bottom of the line, and that's that. The darker you are, the worse you are.

    In conclusion, when any man sees this standard of beauty in the media and they aren't strong enough to look past it, they want that ideal standard of beauty. Which is why MANY Black gay men today are "thirsty" for White men, and will never consider dating a Black man.

    It's one thing to date all kinds of races, it is a completely different thing to date exclusively out of your race.



    I think the hierarchy is in your head and is irrelevant. We are in the information age. An age of niches. Anyone who wants anything can find it. Most people are not interested in the main stream and can ignore it. That's why there are parties, meetups groups for bears, twinks, jocks etc.
    Choosing is democratic. If you are into black you can meet black, if you are into interracial there are groups for that.

    All the white guys I know have preferences. Some are into middle eastern, some into black, some into white, some into Latino. They are not working from a hierarchy. They don't go "I'll have a Latino because there are no whites around". If someone goes for a racial group it's because they like that group not because there are not enough whites to go round.


    As for the media. Black guys who are looking for black guys will ignore the mainstream media and find what they are looking for somewhere other than the mainstream.

    I certainly don't see myself at the bottom of any hierarchy and even if that hierarchy was true it isn't the case here in the UK. I'm wondering where you are getting your information from.

    I think you only see these things if you are not loving self. When you love self you don't see the world in that way.




    Wait just a minute here. You're a black man and yet you don't sound like a victim. How are people supposed to have power over you with that kind of attitude? icon_wink.gif
  • Fireworkz

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    Dec 24, 2015 4:44 PM GMT



    A person can love themselves and see a racial hierarchy. You seem to use your vision of " loving one's self" to dismiss people and their opinions. Speaking for myself I do see a racial hierarchy and I love myself. I think its unfortunate. I think it can be deeming at times the way old, out of shape white men will approach young men of color. I also believe the hierarchy its perpetuated from both sides. Old out of shape white men will tell you how young minorities throw themselves at them looking for a sugar daddy. That doesn't mean I don't love myself. It just means I notice the behaviors of others. [/quote]


    If we were in India, Brazil or Apartheid South Africa. I could see a hierarchy as it would be openly discussed but that's not really the truth. Who has told you that you that you are at the bottom of the hierarchy. People either like you or don't.

    If you were merely observing the behaviours you would report on the statistics. They would say that X% of white men prefer White men, while Y% prefer black men etc. X is higher than Y.

    But to say there is a hierarchy is your interpretation of the statistics.

    Old out of shape white men approach everyone. In fact old out of shape men of any colour will approach young men. Old men need love too. Good to them for trying. If you are not interested move on.
    Again hierarchy is a value based/ economic system. Is an old man worth less than a young man? He's just not as attractive maybe.

  • Fireworkz

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    Dec 24, 2015 4:56 PM GMT
    Radd said
    Fireworkz said
    visastamp saidI think men in general are physically beautiful, but I do love Black men. And the White men that have been into me, or that I dated in the past, always mentioned my "size" or that they've never been with a Black guy, or that I look good for a Black guy. So, it quickly turned me off, as I didn't want to be anyone's fetish or experiment. Then I found out that ALL of the men I liked in the past only wanted sex. That's another story.


    Anyway, there is a hierarchy in the gay world, shoot, in the world really. In the gay world it is this:

    White men are the GODS of the universe. The whiter and paler, the better.

    Light-skinned Latinos and Middle Eastern men are second (close ties).

    Tanned latinos, Indians, or mixed race men are next (but not too dark).

    Everything that isn't Asian or Black are next in line, again, not too Black.

    Asian men are next in line, unless White men REALLY prefer Asians over anyone else.

    Black men are at the bottom of the line, and that's that. The darker you are, the worse you are.

    In conclusion, when any man sees this standard of beauty in the media and they aren't strong enough to look past it, they want that ideal standard of beauty. Which is why MANY Black gay men today are "thirsty" for White men, and will never consider dating a Black man.

    It's one thing to date all kinds of races, it is a completely different thing to date exclusively out of your race.



    I think the hierarchy is in your head and is irrelevant. We are in the information age. An age of niches. Anyone who wants anything can find it. Most people are not interested in the main stream and can ignore it. That's why there are parties, meetups groups for bears, twinks, jocks etc.
    Choosing is democratic. If you are into black you can meet black, if you are into interracial there are groups for that.

    All the white guys I know have preferences. Some are into middle eastern, some into black, some into white, some into Latino. They are not working from a hierarchy. They don't go "I'll have a Latino because there are no whites around". If someone goes for a racial group it's because they like that group not because there are not enough whites to go round.


    As for the media. Black guys who are looking for black guys will ignore the mainstream media and find what they are looking for somewhere other than the mainstream.

    I certainly don't see myself at the bottom of any hierarchy and even if that hierarchy was true it isn't the case here in the UK. I'm wondering where you are getting your information from.

    I think you only see these things if you are not loving self. When you love self you don't see the world in that way.




    Wait just a minute here. You're a black man and yet you don't sound like a victim. How are people supposed to have power over you with that kind of attitude? icon_wink.gif



    Lol. I hope that wasn't one of those patronizing you are intelligent for a black man comments. (Which I heard from an American colleague once in London.)

    I acknowledge that systemic racism exists in many societies including the US and in the media. But it can be difficult to separate unconscious bias from racism with deliberate intent.

    And there is a difference between being a victim as a circumstance and having an attitude of a victim. Having the attitude of a victim has a choice. But societies can be set up such that people are victims.



  • HottJoe

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    Dec 24, 2015 5:19 PM GMT
    Fireworkz said
    Radd said
    Fireworkz said
    visastamp saidI think men in general are physically beautiful, but I do love Black men. And the White men that have been into me, or that I dated in the past, always mentioned my "size" or that they've never been with a Black guy, or that I look good for a Black guy. So, it quickly turned me off, as I didn't want to be anyone's fetish or experiment. Then I found out that ALL of the men I liked in the past only wanted sex. That's another story.


    Anyway, there is a hierarchy in the gay world, shoot, in the world really. In the gay world it is this:

    White men are the GODS of the universe. The whiter and paler, the better.

    Light-skinned Latinos and Middle Eastern men are second (close ties).

    Tanned latinos, Indians, or mixed race men are next (but not too dark).

    Everything that isn't Asian or Black are next in line, again, not too Black.

    Asian men are next in line, unless White men REALLY prefer Asians over anyone else.

    Black men are at the bottom of the line, and that's that. The darker you are, the worse you are.

    In conclusion, when any man sees this standard of beauty in the media and they aren't strong enough to look past it, they want that ideal standard of beauty. Which is why MANY Black gay men today are "thirsty" for White men, and will never consider dating a Black man.

    It's one thing to date all kinds of races, it is a completely different thing to date exclusively out of your race.



    I think the hierarchy is in your head and is irrelevant. We are in the information age. An age of niches. Anyone who wants anything can find it. Most people are not interested in the main stream and can ignore it. That's why there are parties, meetups groups for bears, twinks, jocks etc.
    Choosing is democratic. If you are into black you can meet black, if you are into interracial there are groups for that.

    All the white guys I know have preferences. Some are into middle eastern, some into black, some into white, some into Latino. They are not working from a hierarchy. They don't go "I'll have a Latino because there are no whites around". If someone goes for a racial group it's because they like that group not because there are not enough whites to go round.


    As for the media. Black guys who are looking for black guys will ignore the mainstream media and find what they are looking for somewhere other than the mainstream.

    I certainly don't see myself at the bottom of any hierarchy and even if that hierarchy was true it isn't the case here in the UK. I'm wondering where you are getting your information from.

    I think you only see these things if you are not loving self. When you love self you don't see the world in that way.




    Wait just a minute here. You're a black man and yet you don't sound like a victim. How are people supposed to have power over you with that kind of attitude? icon_wink.gif



    Lol. I hope that wasn't one of those patronizing you are intelligent for a black man comments. (Which I heard from an American colleague once in London.)

    I acknowledge that systemic racism exists in many societies including the US and in the media. But it can be difficult to separate unconscious bias from racism with deliberate intent.

    And there is a difference between being a victim as a circumstance and having an attitude of a victim. Having the attitude of a victim has a choice. But societies can be set up such that people are victims.




    If you spend any amount of time combing RJ forums, you'll quickly see that Radd is the one lacking intelligence.
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    Fireworkz said
    visastamp saidI think men in general are physically beautiful, but I do love Black men. And the White men that have been into me, or that I dated in the past, always mentioned my "size" or that they've never been with a Black guy, or that I look good for a Black guy. So, it quickly turned me off, as I didn't want to be anyone's fetish or experiment. Then I found out that ALL of the men I liked in the past only wanted sex. That's another story.


    Anyway, there is a hierarchy in the gay world, shoot, in the world really. In the gay world it is this:

    White men are the GODS of the universe. The whiter and paler, the better.

    Light-skinned Latinos and Middle Eastern men are second (close ties).

    Tanned latinos, Indians, or mixed race men are next (but not too dark).

    Everything that isn't Asian or Black are next in line, again, not too Black.

    Asian men are next in line, unless White men REALLY prefer Asians over anyone else.

    Black men are at the bottom of the line, and that's that. The darker you are, the worse you are.

    In conclusion, when any man sees this standard of beauty in the media and they aren't strong enough to look past it, they want that ideal standard of beauty. Which is why MANY Black gay men today are "thirsty" for White men, and will never consider dating a Black man.

    It's one thing to date all kinds of races, it is a completely different thing to date exclusively out of your race.



    I think the hierarchy is in your head and is irrelevant. We are in the information age. An age of niches. Anyone who wants anything can find it. Most people are not interested in the main stream and can ignore it. That's why there are parties, meetups groups for bears, twinks, jocks etc.
    Choosing is democratic. If you are into black you can meet black, if you are into interracial there are groups for that.

    All the white guys I know have preferences. Some are into middle eastern, some into black, some into white, some into Latino. They are not working from a hierarchy. They don't go "I'll have a Latino because there are no whites around". If someone goes for a racial group it's because they like that group not because there are not enough whites to go round.


    As for the media. Black guys who are looking for black guys will ignore the mainstream media and find what they are looking for somewhere other than the mainstream.

    I certainly don't see myself at the bottom of any hierarchy and even if that hierarchy was true it isn't the case here in the UK. I'm wondering where you are getting your information from.

    I think you only see these things if you are not loving self. When you love self you don't see the world in that way.






    A person can love themselves and see a racial hierarchy. You seem to use your vision of " loving one's self" to dismiss people and their opinions. Speaking for myself I do see a racial hierarchy and I love myself. I think its unfortunate. I think it can be deeming at times the way old, out of shape white men will approach young men of color. I also believe the hierarchy its perpetuated from both sides. Old out of shape white men will tell you how young minorities throw themselves at them looking for a sugar daddy. That doesn't mean I don't love myself. It just means I notice the behaviors of others.



    ^^^ This ^^^

    At the end of the day it is what it is lol

    I think all men are beautiful, I am just stating facts. And I love Black men. Special place in my heart.
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    Fireworkz said
    Radd said
    Fireworkz said
    visastamp saidI think men in general are physically beautiful, but I do love Black men. And the White men that have been into me, or that I dated in the past, always mentioned my "size" or that they've never been with a Black guy, or that I look good for a Black guy. So, it quickly turned me off, as I didn't want to be anyone's fetish or experiment. Then I found out that ALL of the men I liked in the past only wanted sex. That's another story.


    Anyway, there is a hierarchy in the gay world, shoot, in the world really. In the gay world it is this:

    White men are the GODS of the universe. The whiter and paler, the better.

    Light-skinned Latinos and Middle Eastern men are second (close ties).

    Tanned latinos, Indians, or mixed race men are next (but not too dark).

    Everything that isn't Asian or Black are next in line, again, not too Black.

    Asian men are next in line, unless White men REALLY prefer Asians over anyone else.

    Black men are at the bottom of the line, and that's that. The darker you are, the worse you are.

    In conclusion, when any man sees this standard of beauty in the media and they aren't strong enough to look past it, they want that ideal standard of beauty. Which is why MANY Black gay men today are "thirsty" for White men, and will never consider dating a Black man.

    It's one thing to date all kinds of races, it is a completely different thing to date exclusively out of your race.



    I think the hierarchy is in your head and is irrelevant. We are in the information age. An age of niches. Anyone who wants anything can find it. Most people are not interested in the main stream and can ignore it. That's why there are parties, meetups groups for bears, twinks, jocks etc.
    Choosing is democratic. If you are into black you can meet black, if you are into interracial there are groups for that.

    All the white guys I know have preferences. Some are into middle eastern, some into black, some into white, some into Latino. They are not working from a hierarchy. They don't go "I'll have a Latino because there are no whites around". If someone goes for a racial group it's because they like that group not because there are not enough whites to go round.


    As for the media. Black guys who are looking for black guys will ignore the mainstream media and find what they are looking for somewhere other than the mainstream.

    I certainly don't see myself at the bottom of any hierarchy and even if that hierarchy was true it isn't the case here in the UK. I'm wondering where you are getting your information from.

    I think you only see these things if you are not loving self. When you love self you don't see the world in that way.




    Wait just a minute here. You're a black man and yet you don't sound like a victim. How are people supposed to have power over you with that kind of attitude? icon_wink.gif



    Lol. I hope that wasn't one of those patronizing you are intelligent for a black man comments. (Which I heard from an American colleague once in London.)

    I acknowledge that systemic racism exists in many societies including the US and in the media. But it can be difficult to separate unconscious bias from racism with deliberate intent.

    And there is a difference between being a victim as a circumstance and having an attitude of a victim. Having the attitude of a victim has a choice. But societies can be set up such that people are victims.



    No no no........I was giving you a compliment with a bit of sarcasm. You will be a lot happier in life than most of the black men here because you do not perceive yourself as a victim. Our minds are like radio stations.....if you broadcast a particular type of signal you will attract those who are turned into that station. And that's what so many black men here cannot seem to comprehend. Good for you that you get it.