Christian Bale is no longer on my list of MIWTF

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    Feb 04, 2009 9:39 AM GMT
    Listen as this douche rips into the production's DP (director of photography).

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    http://www.aolcdn.com/tmz_audio/020209_christianbale.mp3
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    Feb 04, 2009 12:33 PM GMT
    The video remix!

  • rnch

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    Feb 04, 2009 2:25 PM GMT
    what do you expect out of an ACTOR? by definition an actor is an emotional, narccistic, self absorbed "it's all abour ME-ME-ME" child who plays at make believe situations and hides from the real world in the land of make believe otherwise known as "hollywood"... icon_wink.gif
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    Feb 04, 2009 2:31 PM GMT
    Well, didnt the director of photography trespass on the set and ruin the scene. He should have known better. It must take a lot out of an actor to put out such a performance. He doesnt need to be doing it again because DP is wandering around on the set.
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    Feb 04, 2009 2:40 PM GMT

    Nothing complements RJ's eye candies better than that angry audio clip of Bale... I just came twice. icon_redface.gif
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    Feb 04, 2009 4:12 PM GMT
    Caslon8000 saidWell, didnt the director of photography trespass on the set and ruin the scene. He should have known better. It must take a lot out of an actor to put out such a performance. He doesnt need to be doing it again because DP is wandering around on the set.


    While I can appreciate the focus and talent an actor needs, he's doing a "Terminator" movie, not "Schindler's List". Even if the DP was at fault, Bale wasn't any more professional than the DP he was yelling at -- in fact he was even less so. If this has happened before like he said, he should have spoken to the director about the situation. He wasn't being constructive -- he purposely set out to humiliate the DP in front of everyone. Moreover, if in ANY OTHER JOB you spoke to a superior (which technically the DP is) that way, let alone made physical threats against him, you'd (a) be fired and (b) have your ass arrested. But because Bale is placed to earn the company millions of dollars in ticket sales (plus presumably merchandising), they excuse it as a "one off" incident and allow him to bully and throw tantrums like this. Don't you remember he was arrested for threats against his mother & sister last year? I think he has a VERY serious anger management issue. What if it had gotten physical? Would his actions then still be attributed to being a "sensitive artist"???

    The worst perpetrator in this whole incident is the DIRECTOR -- where in the hell was he when all of this was going on? Why didn't he step in to diffuse the situation (if possible) or at least take control of it?
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    Feb 04, 2009 4:23 PM GMT
    Kind of makes you wonder if he really assulted his mother and sister in that London Hotel room....I'm thinking YES! Jerk!
  • EricLA

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    Feb 04, 2009 5:13 PM GMT
    I agree with Caslon. First, you're only hearing one side of the story. Yes, I'm sure Bale is an intense actor and I wouldn't be surprised if he's done this before, but here's another perspective from Harry Knowles of AintitCoolNews.com:


    Why AICN Doesn't Post Links To Stories Like This Christian Bale thing that's everywhere!

    Hey folks, Harry here... I'm getting slammed with assloads of people angry at me for not posting the Bale explosion from the set of McG's TERMINATOR: SALVATION. Well, first off - there's a real simple reason. It isn't news. And it certainly isn't cool news. It is a moment in a man's life taken completely out of context and most likely leaked to personally embarrass Christian Bale.

    Now, I know what a lot of you are thinking... There's no excuse for a temper tantrum like that to ever occur and if you are going to act that way, you deserve to be embarrassed by your own actions.

    Except, you want to hear the REALITY behind that clip?

    I know this because I happen to be somewhere where someone that was there that day and for the shoot is. And this person isn't a publicist, nor are they invested in Bale's career. They're just someone that thinks it is absolute bullshit that this moment in Bale's life is being aired and that the real story should get out there.

    The DP on TERMINATOR SALVATION, Shane Hurlbut, is a apparently a light tweaker. He's a fairly young DP and likes to fiddle with his lights on set during action, which is a big "NO NO" on most productions unless worked out in advance with performers. But apparently Shane was a pretty unrepentant light tweaker.

    The scene in question, was a very emotional and tough scene between Christian Bale and Bryce Howard. A scene that required soul bearing and a deep level of immersive concentration. The sort of scene where everyone on set knows not to get in anyone's eye lines, and definitely not to move lights around while FILMING. You lock that shit down before the scene starts.

    Bale had indeed warned the DP on multiple occasions about messing with lights while the cameras were rolling, and Bale was in the midst of a painful scene with Bryce, what was described to me as being the emotional center of the film and his character for the film.

    Now, the reason I know all of this is because the person that was there, felt that it should be made perfectly clear that Christian Bale was the utmost gentleman and cool guy on set. And the DP really was doing something that professional DPs with experience just don't do. Not during a performance.

    You don't need me to give you a link, it's all over the internet, I just felt that you should know what really went down - and that this particular outburst did indeed modify the DP's behavior - and for future DPs. Fuck with the lights before and after your actors are acting. Not during.

    I stay out of the 'personal gossip' arena because frankly... can you imagine your personal shit aired for all to see. None of us are perfect, and certainly we have all sinned to some degree. Actors, Actresses, Celebrities and the people exploited on sites like TMZ. They're human beings that I personally feel are owed the same inalienable rights that the rest of us hold dear.

    Can you imagine cameras documenting your every attempted private moment. This moment was something that occurred in the heat of a moment on set between professionals. The audio is so clear on Christian, that it's obvious a mike was on him or a foot and a half above him. These are the sorts of moments that are private affairs. Yet somehow, because he's an actor. We feel it's permissable to air his dirty laundry. It isn't our business. It isn't anybody's fucking business. Will this affect TERMINATOR SALVATION? Will this give us insight into his character? Only because I found some details out, do we know it was in the midst of a scene between him and Bryce Howard. But that's accidental... and certainly hasn't been revealed by CNN or any other media, because they just run the clip with BEEPS. Is it funny? I suppose it may be. It allows regular people to laugh, point fingers and call someone other than themselves an ASSHOLE. But frankly, I find it disgusting. It's the exact thing that I made AICN to not be about. I wrote this, not to create an endless TALKBACK, but to express my opinion on the spreading of stories like this and making Christian look bad, when he isn't.
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    Feb 04, 2009 5:42 PM GMT

    I can't believe anyone would find that outburst excusable in any situation. Maybe if he freaked out for 10 seconds, but to go on and on for so long shows he's at least a little unbalanced. I read that he said fuck 35 times during his rant icon_eek.gif. How crazy it is that he is swearing at and threatening a co-worker for being "unprofessional"? I love how he ends by saying what a nice guy the guy he's threatening is.

    I think the main point to keep in mind is that he was abusing a guy that couldn't retaliate. He's the star of the film and he knows that this guy will get fired if he doesn't just bend over and take it.

    Maybe it's because I Canadian, and we would never speak to a co-worker like that here. Everyone always says Canadians are so nice, and if this is what some of you guys deem an appropriate response, I'm starting to understand why we seem so friendly. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Feb 04, 2009 5:55 PM GMT
    Um, not to go completely off topic (Mainly 'cause I do agree with the general consensus of the group) but what does MIWTF stand for?


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    Feb 04, 2009 5:58 PM GMT
    Christian Bale yells at someone
    Michael Phelps smokes pot

    My, how we love to think less of people for the very same things we do.
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    Feb 04, 2009 6:09 PM GMT
    USAFGypsy saidUm, not to go completely off topic (Mainly 'cause I do agree with the general consensus of the group) but what does MIWTF stand for?


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    I'm assuming it stands for Men I Want To Fuck.
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    Feb 04, 2009 6:12 PM GMT
    I can understand, EricLA. Getting to the point and maintaining the emotion involved for a scene can take a lot out of you. On top of that actually playing a different character. It's why some actors have to take some quite time after they shoot a scene.

    For the people that don't know about acting view kinda like this: Your having a heart to heart talk with your best friend, partner, family member and someone else keeps interrupting you every time you start to talk.

    If the AintitCoolNews.com article is correct I can understand. I wouldn't want some of my past rants broadcasted.
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    Feb 04, 2009 6:15 PM GMT
    A large problem with Bale's reaction is that it takes the focus off of the DP's bad behavior of tweaking lights during a shoot....if that is a no-no and not done....and puts it on Bale. Then the DP gets off.

    Another problem for Bale is that threatening to quit a project could affect his hireability if production companies and/or their insurance companies decide he is too great a risk.

    I have often wondered what it is like to act in a movie since the scenes are not shot in sequence. So the actor has to put himself into the mood of a situation totally out of context, yet have it consistent with the rest of his acting thruout the movie. So I can understand perhaps an actor getting really upset by some idiot DP wanting to tweak lights during a particularly intense scene....esp if the DP shouldnt have been doing it.

    I heard the DP on the recording saying something like "I was looking at the light." So it sounded like the DP was just off in his own DP-world and not considering what else was happening on the set....like they were shooting a scene! duh!
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    Feb 04, 2009 6:16 PM GMT
    MunchingZombie saidChristian Bale yells at someone
    Michael Phelps smokes pot

    My, how we love to think less of people for the very same things we do.



    I've never done the pot thing and I would never treat someone like that..
    nor carry on... "like a fuck"..... LOL
  • TallGWMvballe...

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    Feb 04, 2009 6:39 PM GMT
    Gentlemen;

    I am a DP myself and was not there but have listened to the various audio clips and posts about this.

    Yes EricLA is correct in that no one should be tweaking lights in a way that will distract the actors during a take or doing anything distracting. Even walking around in the actors eyeline is bad form.
    Now, having said that, what Bale should have done is stopped the scene and taken the Director or at least the 1st AD aside and told him about the distraction.... allowed THAT person to communicate with the person making the distraction and then moved on as a professional.
    Bale's rant humiliating the DP in front of everyone is inexcusable UNprofessional behavior that should be addressed by the Director, Producer and Bale's agent and manager.

    This will probably label him as "Difficult to work with" a moniker you don't want in the biz.

  • EricPrado

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    Feb 04, 2009 6:41 PM GMT
    I never liked the guy anyways. He's so full of himself. He used the word "fuck" like 200 times.
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    Feb 04, 2009 6:47 PM GMT
    People get hubristic when they are surrounded by 'yes men.'

    I've had a few 'influential' employers who have gone exactly the same way.

    That said, he's still on my list. icon_smile.gif
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    Feb 04, 2009 6:51 PM GMT
    Lost_In_The_Mail saidPeople get hubristic when they are surrounded by 'yes men.'

    I've had a few 'influential' employers who have gone exactly the same way.

    That said, he's still on my list. icon_smile.gif



    It turned you on even more huh? admit it. lol
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    Feb 04, 2009 7:29 PM GMT
    rnch saidwhat do you expect out of an ACTOR? by definition an actor is an emotional, narccistic, self absorbed "it's all abour ME-ME-ME" child who plays at make believe situations and hides from the real world in the land of make believe otherwise known as "hollywood"... icon_wink.gif


    I agree. I try not to give a rat's ass about actors. They build their images to feed other people's vicarious living experiences. Then when they get caught not living their "image" they howl "unfair." BS. There are one or two actors/actresses who actually do things for other people--Audrey Hepburn comes to mind. The rest could fade into oblivion TOMORROW and I could care less. I try to live in the real world, and avoid the unreal. (Which, btw, is one reason porn is so bad for me.)

    When I start listening to what actors think and say, then I know I'm lost for sure! Dump Hollywood--it's become almost a total wasteland.
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    Feb 04, 2009 7:35 PM GMT
    ^ lol, well a little bit. Although no one pulls off 'cold-blooded-psycho-killer-chic' quite like Christian.

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  • EricLA

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    Feb 04, 2009 7:58 PM GMT
    Growing, Caslon, & TallGW,

    I'm just saying we need to cut him a bit of slack here. He hasn't had the chance to tell his side of the story and he's losing the in the court of public opinion. I doubt he'll quit the movie. I think that's just been speculation that's gotten out of hand. This movie is too big, and I think he understands the stakes are too high. Especially now.

    I agree that what this DP did was wrong, but I'm not excusing Bale's level of response. To ream this guy for four minutes is excessive, and yeah he should have taken this to the director or the producers. There's no doubt Bale could handled this better.

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    Feb 04, 2009 8:01 PM GMT


    The article Eric cited was spot on. Could Bale have handled the situation better, ya. But who cares, it's the DPs fault for ruining the scene.
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    Feb 04, 2009 8:19 PM GMT
    Damn actor, toughen up! He's paid enough to have can-can girls dancing on the lighting board. If he can't concentrate, it's his failure, not someone else's. I suspect that's where the anger's coming from.
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    Feb 04, 2009 8:37 PM GMT
    ^ Yeah totally, all the DP did was get in his sight line!

    I used to share an office with a woman who was always talking on the phone. It was annoying but I never once shouted at her for four minutes or told her 'we're through professionally.'

    You only act like that if you think you're really really really better than everyone else.