The joy of Canada delivered from Stephen Harper’s darkness to Justin Trudeau’s light

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    Dec 18, 2015 10:42 PM GMT
    Let us now praise famous men... Justin Trudeau comes to mind. “Canada is back,” the country’s new Prime Minister told the climate conference in Paris – and closed the door on the bigoted, aggressive Canada which his Conservative predecessor had been trying to create.

    It’s nice to write a story that’s an “upper” rather than a “downer” – which most Middle East reports must be. I was in Canada during the election, when former Prime Minister Stephen Harper ran a campaign of such cruel mendacity against his own country’s Muslim minority that I began to wonder if Canada had lost its moral standing in the world.

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    Justin Trudeau greets Syrian refugees arriving in Toronto

    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/the-joy-of-canada-delivered-from-stephen-harper-s-darkness-to-justin-trudeau-s-light-a6779106.html
  • leanandclean

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    Dec 19, 2015 1:48 PM GMT
    Canada's cool
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    Dec 19, 2015 4:26 PM GMT
    leanandclean saidCanada's cool


    Yes we are. So are you. icon_smile.gif
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    Dec 20, 2015 12:30 AM GMT
    Canadians are taking in 25,000 improperly vetted Syrian Refugees by the end of Feb. 2016.

    For thousands of miles of US-Canadian border, there is only a shallow ditch and forestlands to stop illegal aiens. There is currently no fencing on the northern border. Instead, the demarcation line between the two countries is often marked by a ditch, approximately six inches deep or simply a post marker:

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    Dec 20, 2015 1:31 AM GMT
    ^
    Don't worry, the Donald is gonna build you a wall in the north as well as in the south. Or maybe he'll just annex Canada (following "pleas from the terribly repressed and Muslim-fearing American populations of Northwest Angle and Point Roberts", of course).
  • JackNNJ

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    Dec 20, 2015 6:32 AM GMT
    He says silly things:

    "We will grow the economy from the heart..."

    That should do wonders for Canada's bond rating.

    He says ridiculous things:

    "The biggest threat to global security is the kind of violence and misunderstandings and wars that come out of resource depletion..."

    Leo diCaprio must have been one of his campaign advisers.

    He says sickeningly naive things:

    "To our friends and fellow citizens in the Muslim community, Canadians know acts such as these [the attack in Ottawa] committed in the name of Islam are an aberration of your faith."

    They happen on a regular basis in Saudi Arabia, under due process of law, given legitimacy by a world community which would rather look the other way. Sorry, dingbats, it was no aberration.

    Canada elected a ditzy college girl who supports Bernie Sanders, evidently.
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    Dec 20, 2015 11:55 AM GMT
    JackNNJ said
    He says silly things
    He says ridiculous things
    He says sickeningly naive things


    That sounds like everything you've posted since you got here.
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    Dec 20, 2015 1:17 PM GMT
    You won't be happy until every western country looks like the caliphate of Al-Britanyia will you? Shoo shoo.

    Hopefully God-Emperor of the Galaxy Donald Trump will build a wall between the US and Canada (or what's left of it). But before that Trudeau should use the power of diversity and tolerance to fix their collapsing currency because just like Mexico, they will be the ones paying for that wall.

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    Dec 20, 2015 4:10 PM GMT
    It's a sad pathetic world when we can not come together and open our doors to the most vulnerable and displaced within our society. I applaud Justin Trudeau and Canada for putting fear aside and opening their hearts to those in need of a home free of war and turmoil.
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    Dec 20, 2015 4:41 PM GMT
    Musclefitness_101 saidIt's a sad pathetic world when we can not come together and open our doors to the most vulnerable and displaced within our society. I applaud Justin Trudeau and Canada for putting fear aside and opening their hearts to those in need of a home free of war and turmoil.


    How many refugee families are you personally housing/sponsoring?
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    Dec 20, 2015 5:07 PM GMT
    "AronH2OP said:
    [/b]How many refugee families are you personally housing/sponsoring? [/quote]


    My parish is sponsoring one family and we are all contributing what we individually can to ensure their success in their new homeland. It's the humane thing to do....
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    Dec 20, 2015 6:26 PM GMT
    Musclefitness_101 saidIt's a sad pathetic world when we can not come together and open our doors to the most vulnerable and displaced within our society. I applaud Justin Trudeau and Canada for putting fear aside and opening their hearts to those in need of a home free of war and turmoil.


    Stop, you're making me cry. *sob*
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    Dec 20, 2015 6:41 PM GMT
    mx5guynj saidCanadians are taking in 25,000 improperly vetted Syrian Refugees by the end of Feb. 2016.

    For thousands of miles of US-Canadian border, there is only a shallow ditch and forestlands to stop illegal aiens. There is currently no fencing on the northern border. Instead, the demarcation line between the two countries is often marked by a ditch, approximately six inches deep or simply a post marker:

    So do you think President Trump should build another wall along the entire US-Canada border, in addition to walling-off Mexico?
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    Dec 20, 2015 6:57 PM GMT
    Canadians are taking in 25,000 improperly vetted Syrian Refugees by the end of Feb. 2016.

    For thousands of miles of US-Canadian border, there is only a shallow ditch and forestlands to stop illegal aiens. There is currently no fencing on the northern border. Instead, the demarcation line between the two countries is often marked by a ditch, approximately six inches deep or simply a post marker:


    So be afraid, really afraid. Arm yourself, barricade yourself in, build walls - and forget that for 250 years America has been the refuge of the oppressed of the world.

    Improperly? Perhaps you could explain rather than simply asserting?

    Musclefitness has it about right.
  • tazzari

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    Dec 20, 2015 6:58 PM GMT
    Musclefitness_101 said

    How many refugee families are you personally housing/sponsoring?


    My parish is sponsoring one family and we are all contributing what we individually can to ensure their success in their new homeland. It's the humane thing to do.... [/quote]

    Very well said, and what a great effort. I'm happy to say that my parish is doing much the same thing.

    Thanks for the voice of charity and sanity.
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    Dec 20, 2015 9:42 PM GMT
    What have we become? As an LGBT community who has been discriminated in every way possible, how could we turn our backs on those who are suffering through no fault of their own. Do we just turn our backs away and allow fear to rule our moral and ethical standards? Where has our sense of compassion gone?

    Merry Christmas... Let it be a promising one for all G-d's people of good will....
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    Dec 20, 2015 10:25 PM GMT
    Musclefitness_101 saidWhat have we become? As an LGBT community who has been discriminated in every way possible, how could we turn our backs on those who are suffering through no fault of their own. Do we just turn our backs away and allow fear to rule our moral and ethical standards? Where has our sense of compassion gone?

    Merry Christmas... Let it be a promising one for all G-d's people of good will....


    Being kind doesn't mean giving up on your sense of self preservation. Mass immigration of Muslims was never a successful experiment in any western country. Every single neighborhood that absorbed a large number of Muslim immigrants in France, Sweden, Germany and England are now hotspots of crime and discrimination themselves.
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    Dec 20, 2015 10:43 PM GMT
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    Musclefitness_101 saidWhat have we become? As an LGBT community who has been discriminated in every way possible, how could we turn our backs on those who are suffering through no fault of their own. Do we just turn our backs away and allow fear to rule our moral and ethical standards? Where has our sense of compassion gone?

    Merry Christmas... Let it be a promising one for all G-d's people of good will....


    Being kind doesn't mean giving up on your sense of self preservation. Mass immigration of Muslims was never a successful experiment in any western country. Every single neighborhood that absorbed a large number of Muslim immigrants in France, Sweden, Germany and England are now hotspots of crime and discrimination themselves.


    How Sad... I'm speechless!
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    Dec 20, 2015 11:13 PM GMT
    AaronH2OPEvery single neighborhood that absorbed a large number of Muslim immigrants in France, Sweden, Germany and England are now hotspots of crime and discrimination themselves.


    LOL - what like Knightsbridge, Kensington and St John's Wood?
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    Dec 20, 2015 11:36 PM GMT
    Musclefitness_101 saidWhat have we become? As an LGBT community who has been discriminated in every way possible, how could we turn our backs on those who are suffering through no fault of their own. Do we just turn our backs away and allow fear to rule our moral and ethical standards? Where has our sense of compassion gone?

    Merry Christmas... Let it be a promising one for all G-d's people of good will....

    A very powerful statement, that I endorse. My admiration to you.

    At the same time, we must remain vigilant against those who would exploit our natural Western and US compassion and acceptance. There should still be good screening and vetting of people entering the US, and surveillance of suspicious activities. A delicate balance of our US Constitutional protections and core American values, versus this new external threat that faces us.

    I don't have an answer to that, and I don't think most of our political leaders do, either. What we hear from them is what their various voter bases want to hear. But that's not leadership but rather followership.

    Even The Donald, for all his tough-talking bluster, is just playing to a bigoted base. If he had an original, constructive idea of his own his head would likely melt down, and his fake dyed hair combover catch fire. But I suppose when you're a billionaire you can afford the finest hair specialists, to preserve that comical look.

    In the meantime, the Republican Party's burning, and Trump's throwing more fuel on the fire. Well, better for the Democrats. If they regain the Senate it'll be thanks to Trump.

    No wonder some people wonder whether he's a Democratic shill. Not me, I think he's simply a megalomaniacal nutjob. And the Republicans are stuck with him. They created the conditions for a Trump, now they can deal with the consequences. icon_biggrin.gif
  • tazzari

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    Dec 21, 2015 1:40 AM GMT
    Musclefitness_101 saidWhat have we become? As an LGBT community who has been discriminated in every way possible, how could we turn our backs on those who are suffering through no fault of their own. Do we just turn our backs away and allow fear to rule our moral and ethical standards? Where has our sense of compassion gone?

    Merry Christmas... Let it be a promising one for all G-d's people of good will....


    Bravo!
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    Dec 21, 2015 1:42 AM GMT
    shutoman said
    AaronH2OPEvery single neighborhood that absorbed a large number of Muslim immigrants in France, Sweden, Germany and England are now hotspots of crime and discrimination themselves.


    LOL - what like Knightsbridge, Kensington and St John's Wood?


    Well, Knightsbridge is dangerous - I keep getting waylaid by cool stuff I have to buy at Harrod's... Better to stay in a safe neighborhood like Covent Garden.
  • tazzari

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    Dec 21, 2015 1:46 AM GMT
    Mass immigration of Muslims was never a successful experiment in any western country.

    Except... Quite a few Muslims and Sikhs immigrated into the UK posts WWII. I met a Sikh taxi driver in Newcastle who spoke with a strong Geordie accent and was a 3rd generation Brit.

    Maybe we should talk about some of the Christianists who inflame LGBT hatred in Russia and Africa...
  • KissTheSky

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    Dec 21, 2015 1:54 AM GMT
    Ex_Mil8 saidLet us now praise famous men... Justin Trudeau comes to mind. “Canada is back,” the country’s new Prime Minister told the climate conference in Paris – and closed the door on the bigoted, aggressive Canada which his Conservative predecessor had been trying to create.

    It’s nice to write a story that’s an “upper” rather than a “downer” – which most Middle East reports must be. I was in Canada during the election, when former Prime Minister Stephen Harper ran a campaign of such cruel mendacity against his own country’s Muslim minority that I began to wonder if Canada had lost its moral standing in the world.

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    Justin Trudeau greets Syrian refugees arriving in Toronto

    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/the-joy-of-canada-delivered-from-stephen-harper-s-darkness-to-justin-trudeau-s-light-a6779106.html


    This is called courageous leadership of a compassionate country.
    Canada is putting the US to shame... we used to lead the world, but now our country is being ruined by simple-minded conservatives whose entire lives are spent wetting their pants about one imagined crisis after another. Now they are crying about not having a wall between our country and the scary people in Canada?
    Please, stop watching the made-up nonsense on Fox News and try to educate yourselves about reality for a change.
  • JackNNJ

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    Dec 21, 2015 3:58 AM GMT
    Ex_Mil8 said
    JackNNJ said
    He says silly things
    He says ridiculous things
    He says sickeningly naive things


    That sounds like everything you've posted since you got here.


    So tell us how one would go about "growing the economy from the heart."