Am I wrong to shake my head at this?

  • rnch

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    Dec 22, 2015 3:13 PM GMT
    A friend of mine, who is highly regarded for his capabilities as a Registered Nurse in a local hospital's Emergency Room, complained that he cannot pay his monthly bills on his 6 figure a year income (for a job that averages 36 hours a week!).

    He went on a vitriolic rant on his FB page about low income residents who receive a SNAP (food stamps) card, commenting that since he pays so much in taxes HE should be eligible for the same card & benefits.

    I am hoping he was "not quite sober" and was playing "devil's advocate" when posting this.

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    Dec 22, 2015 4:10 PM GMT
    i know for sure guy/gal sit where both work at Denver General trauma center. Their take home is less than expected. I think they see a lot at where they work? The hospital is known excellence for off the street admission.

    these peeps are way out of my insignificant reference:

    especially the lady
    -i would describe her as educated + ferocious

    the guy
    -confidant handsome self proclaimed pirate, and he is!
  • LJay

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    Dec 22, 2015 5:00 PM GMT
    I think your friend is living beyond his means and needs to admit it. I am getting by on social security and a part-time job and I have a mortgage and debts. He could have it a lot worse.
  • rnch

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    Dec 22, 2015 5:17 PM GMT
    starting to think that he was buzzed after night shift and was trying to "stir the cauldron" with his remarks.
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    Dec 22, 2015 5:42 PM GMT
    Karma needs to kick him in his ass.
  • Antarktis

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    Dec 22, 2015 5:43 PM GMT
    LJay saidI think your friend is living beyond his means and needs to admit it.. He could have it a lot worse.


    +1
  • jrc2005

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    Dec 22, 2015 5:59 PM GMT
    UndercoverMan saidKarma needs to kick him in his ass.


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    Dec 22, 2015 6:09 PM GMT
    I have met people making only 35k a year , who had more savings , than people making 200k a year . In the U.S , there is this fairy tale of how you have to show how much money you earn/make , by the car you drive or the house you live in ..
    Because i share my life between the U.S and Australia ,I can see the difference with my home country , where people are more conservative .
    Luckily , i have seen the Americans react to this problem , some of my friends have already downsized their house , and Chrysler , Ford and GM , have started to ger more serious with downsized their lines as well ...
  • Destinharbor

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    Dec 22, 2015 6:13 PM GMT
    People have a tendency to spend up to their income. And a lot of the expenses are relatively fixed squeezing disposable income. Incomes haven't been rising along with the cost of living for decades so while your friend shouldn't need food stamps, he could very well be having money problems. Don't forget, a brand new doctor hired for that emergency room is probably on contract for $700,000+. The income split is getting corrosive. Why do we smile and shrug our shoulders when we hear of some baseball player who we've never heard of gets a $100 MILLION contract?
  • HottJoe

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    Dec 22, 2015 6:24 PM GMT
    No, I think his FB posts show some serious cognitive dissonance. Keep it classy, upper middle class.
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    Dec 22, 2015 6:40 PM GMT
    I totally agree that people need to start living within their means. Too many times I see it... Where I love it best is at work... One lady is always pulling up in a new Jaguar, and it never fails... When it's time for reduction in force layoffs, she becomes a total bitch, and no one can talk to her because she is soooo busy. I'm sorry, my family always taught me, live within my means. Put up money, and of course, don't short yourself on being happy. For me, I love to travel.

    I can't really feel sorry for people that over extend themselves because it's a choice you make. I never wanna be a slave to my company or debt. icon_smile.gif

    Cheers,

    Sean
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    Dec 22, 2015 6:53 PM GMT
    Not quite sober, nor sane and his sense of entitlement is very off putting. He needs to get a dose of reality and whatever he is taking of prescription or other substances
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    Dec 22, 2015 7:00 PM GMT
    rnch said
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    I have to lean toward the opinions being expressed here suggesting his problem is self-inflicted in some way. New Orleans is not a cheap place to live, but not the most expensive, either. A 6-figure income should not be a hardship.

    To paraphras from Shakespeare's Julius Caesar:

    "The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our salary ['stars'], but in ourselves..."
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    Dec 22, 2015 7:25 PM GMT
    an emergency room is not for the faint at heart. It just might be worth while not to judge if you have the Option. Otherwise stay clear of the individual.
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    Dec 22, 2015 7:31 PM GMT
    Antarktis said
    LJay saidI think your friend is living beyond his means and needs to admit it.. He could have it a lot worse.


    +1


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  • conservativej...

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    Dec 23, 2015 12:06 AM GMT
    Your friend may be a member of the group that will drive next falls elections in America. That group that is heavily taxed when you include federal, state, sometimes local, along with property taxes. They generally sit in the bottom of the top 10 percent of earners and are becoming quite fed up with government transfers of their income.

    If not, don't worry, the discord will remain.
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    Dec 23, 2015 1:32 AM GMT
    rnch saidA friend of mine, who is highly regarded for his capabilities as a Registered Nurse in a local hospital's Emergency Room, complained that he cannot pay his monthly bills on his 6 figure a year income (for a job that averages 36 hours a week!).

    He went on a vitriolic rant on his FB page about low income residents who receive a SNAP (food stamps) card, commenting that since he pays so much in taxes HE should be eligible for the same card & benefits.

    I am hoping he was "not quite sober" and was playing "devil's advocate" when posting this.

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    Tell him to stop doing coke and he'll save lots of money.
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    Dec 23, 2015 6:04 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidI was getting to know a guy in Chicago years ago. In the short time I knew him, he had just purchased a luxury car for $10K and his rent was over $1,200 for a lofty spacious two bedroom apartment where he lived alone (this was over fifteen years ago so an apartment for $1,000 in Chicago was excessive) and he complained about money quite a bit.

    I got fed up with his whiny, worrisome complaining and told him what I thought. I told him to downsize and that he shouldn't have purchased such an expensive brand new car. He resented me for it and he kicked me to the curb which I was fine with. I don't need people like that in my life.


    $10K is dirt cheap for a luxury car even 15 years ago. icon_confused.gif
  • eM_Jay

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    Dec 23, 2015 6:55 AM GMT
    rnch saidA friend of mine, who is highly regarded for his capabilities as a Registered Nurse in a local hospital's Emergency Room, complained that he cannot pay his monthly bills on his 6 figure a year income (for a job that averages 36 hours a week!).

    He went on a vitriolic rant on his FB page about low income residents who receive a SNAP (food stamps) card, commenting that since he pays so much in taxes HE should be eligible for the same card & benefits.

    I am hoping he was "not quite sober" and was playing "devil's advocate" when posting this.

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    If he doesn't see the benefits of his salary why not move for a better position? Either in the same hospital or another ER totally? Dunno about opportunities for nurses but im sure there's smarter and more productive ways of getting the salary he wants than ranting on FB....
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    Dec 23, 2015 7:31 AM GMT
    rnch saidA friend of mine, who is highly regarded for his capabilities as a Registered Nurse in a local hospital's Emergency Room, complained that he cannot pay his monthly bills on his 6 figure a year income (for a job that averages 36 hours a week!).

    He went on a vitriolic rant on his FB page about low income residents who receive a SNAP (food stamps) card, commenting that since he pays so much in taxes HE should be eligible for the same card & benefits.

    I am hoping he was "not quite sober" and was playing "devil's advocate" when posting this.

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    Looks like he needs to change his political party
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    Dec 23, 2015 7:33 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle said
    What are you inferring? Having a monthly car payment of several hundred dollars in addition to having to pay for auto insurance just seems rather dumb if you're complaining about money all the time.

    I always purchased used cars for around $2-3K and paid cash for them upfront.


    If it was an old luxury car, then it wasn't cheap. I thought you meant brand new luxury car.
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    Dec 23, 2015 7:37 AM GMT
    I think your friend is a dipshit who is complaining because he wants more money just so he can show off and brag. Yes, having nice cars and a nice place to live is important. He just needs to spend his money better and live within his means, or he needs to go back to school and get a higher paying position.

    Every gay male nurse I've met, has a very stable job, pay and good set life.

    If I was able to get over the math part of the nursing degree, I would have been an RN with my BSN. I would have a nice car, not a super expensive one, working on buying my own place, but renting a nicer place, and not live in a low income trash pit, and have some saving set aside after paying off my student loans.

    I don't see how it makes sense for a single gay guy who is a nurse to be whining or complaining about money. Da fuck? He doesn't have kids, so get over yourself.

    I'd be set with 50-60 grand a year that BSN degrees make.

    I don't see how he needs to be on SNAP benefits. I'm assuming that was the alcohol talking. If he spent his money right, he wouldn't be complaining.

    Yes, it takes a while for any degree to start living up to its full potential, but it's a career, not the lifestyles of the rich and famous.

    American is so driven by material wealth and status, no wonder americans are so self-entitled and narcissistic. Your friends sounds like that to me.

    I would love to have his job and the education behind it, I would. That would be more money that I will probably see in my lifetime, so he needs to shut the fuck up, grow a pair of balls, and be more responsible with his attitude.

    Also, don't drunkely go on FB and post about that shit. Is he an idiot?

    I am just giving my opinion here.
  • oldfart

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    Dec 23, 2015 2:36 PM GMT
    Underpaid in ER?

    If he can't stand the heat he can get out of the kitchen. Duh

    No sympathy here.
  • rdberg1957

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    Dec 23, 2015 4:32 PM GMT
    Americans used to live within their means. My father was very frugal (as kids, my brother and I called him cheap). He didn't buy new cars, always used. The only toy he had was the piano my mother bought him that he played for 35 years. He and my mother saved enough so that my brother and I could go to college and leave with minimal debt.

    What changed was the culture of credit and indebtedness which was sold to Americans by some sectors of corporate America which profited. We didn't have to buy, but we did and we forgot how to save. Some people never bought the "it's ok to have lots of debt" idea. They became creditors; the rest became debtors. I have struggled to live within my means, being only partially successful (no bankrupticies, but built up excessive debt due to foolish decisions).

    The OP's friend is showing a very unattractive quality: entitlement. People of any economic status can become entitled, believing that their desire for luxury is more important than a child's need to eat (referring to the SNAP comment).

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    Dec 23, 2015 4:56 PM GMT
    rnch saidA friend of mine, who is highly regarded for his capabilities as a Registered Nurse in a local hospital's Emergency Room, complained that he cannot pay his monthly bills on his 6 figure a year income (for a job that averages 36 hours a week!).

    He went on a vitriolic rant on his FB page about low income residents who receive a SNAP (food stamps) card, commenting that since he pays so much in taxes HE should be eligible for the same card & benefits.

    I am hoping he was "not quite sober" and was playing "devil's advocate" when posting this.

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    It depends on where he lives and the cost of living. If he's in NYC or in the California Bay area, a six figure income may not cover cost of living if he's supporting other people as well.

    In other areas of the country, he needs to adjust his expectations and his expenditures. In the south, particularly, he should be living comfortably.