FloridaRugbyBear saidI am HIV negative but have HIV positive friends, including someone who died of pneumonia back when I was in college.
I remember when I was a teenager back in 1990s and HIV/Aids were so new.
The Methodist, Lutheran, and Episcopal churches did a lot to help and protect early Aids/HIV victims when few others would.
Am I the only one left who remembers this?
Why are so many Gay men now proud to say how much they hate Christians?
It seems really ungrateful and not exactly tollerant.
Just my two cents,
It takes a great deal of tolerance to deal with intolerance. Many gays feel "the church" is oppressive. It doesn't mean they are anti-Christian. Just because a Gay person is not a Republican doesn't mean they are anarchists. With oppression, political or religious, there is fallout.
Look at the least religious countries: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/04/14/map-these-are-the-worlds-least-religious-countries/
Considering our income we are still a religious country compared to Canada, Europe, Australia and especially Sweden. There is a lot pressure to be Christian in the US. From our Puritanical beginnings to our current Fundamentalists (laughable to many in Europe) there is a lot of anti-gay sentiment.
If these churches didn't have an anti-gay stance there wouldn't be such an extreme reaction from gays. As a young gay man in the 70s I sought out Dignity, a gay Catholic group. They were seldom allowed in an actual Catholic Church or property. Often they met an Episcopal churches.....where a lot of gays eventually went.
I've called myself a Christian agnostic, not knowing if there is such a thing! lol
But here it is: http://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44061/13952817/Christian_agnosticism
"...the Christian agnostic understands that the most important thing is not to battle over who is right and who is wrong, but rather to try to understand each other through respectful dialogue.
Faith and doubt are often seen as antagonistic, but faith and doubt as complimentary is another way of looking at it. They coexist in tension, but without one there would not be the other, and so there is much to be learned from engaging this tension. So the Christian agnostic need not believe basic Christian teachings without reservation, but simply keep an open mind about the possible truth of these teachings and to live as if they are true."