Merry Christmas!

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    Dec 25, 2015 2:16 PM GMT
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    Dec 25, 2015 2:32 PM GMT
    Thanks! Merry Christmas to you too!
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    Dec 25, 2015 3:27 PM GMT
    mystery905 saidThanks! Merry Christmas to you too!

    And to you as well. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Dec 25, 2015 11:30 PM GMT
    MERRY CHRISTMAS!
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    Dec 26, 2015 2:45 AM GMT
    You're obviously an ersatz liberal. A true liberal knows that the proper salutation at this time of year is the non-denominational "Happy Holidays!".   icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Dec 26, 2015 2:57 AM GMT
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    Dec 26, 2015 3:13 AM GMT
    Lumpyoatmeal saidYou're obviously an ersatz liberal. A true liberal knows that the proper salutation at this time of year is the non-denominational "Happy Holidays!".   icon_rolleyes.gif

    Depends on the person I'm greeting. To my Jewish friends I do offer Happy Holidays, but they'll often reply to me with Merry Christmas, as a courtesy. I saw a Muslim friend tonight, and he said Merry Christmas to me, for the same reason. I replied with Happy Holidays.

    And besides, isn't a complaint about Christmas is that it's become nothing more than an annual commercial secular event? With little religious meaning at all? When I say Merry Christmas it's more about recognition of the gift-giving and partying holiday, than about anything religious.

    And what about New Years? Do we still say Happy New Years? Well, isn't it actually supposed to mark when baby Jesus had his dick snipped? Is that considered religious as well? But I guess our using it for the annual year change makes it OK.

    Well, Christmas is just a gift-giving holiday to me. With a mythical Santa Claus who delivers presents. How come Jesus doesn't deliver the presents? I find Christmas little more a religious holiday than New Years is, and so I can say Merry Christmas without feeling I'm pushing Christianity, merely a traditional shopping & festive holiday.
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    Dec 26, 2015 5:34 AM GMT
    And best yuletide wishes to all! (Comfortably pagan, as any good Thor's Hammer-ite should be...)
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    Dec 26, 2015 6:36 AM GMT
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    Lumpyoatmeal saidYou're obviously an ersatz liberal. A true liberal knows that the proper salutation at this time of year is the non-denominational "Happy Holidays!".   icon_rolleyes.gif

    Depends on the person I'm greeting. To my Jewish friends I do offer Happy Holidays, but they'll often reply to me with Merry Christmas, as a courtesy. I saw a Muslim friend tonight, and he said Merry Christmas to me, for the same reason. I replied with Happy Holidays.

    And besides, isn't a complaint about Christmas is that it's become nothing more than an annual commercial secular event? With little religious meaning at all? When I say Merry Christmas it's more about recognition of the gift-giving and partying holiday, than about anything religious.

    And what about New Years? Do we still say Happy New Years? Well, isn't it actually supposed to mark when baby Jesus had his dick snipped? Is that considered religious as well? But I guess our using it for the annual year change makes it OK.

    Well, Christmas is just a gift-giving holiday to me. With a mythical Santa Claus who delivers presents. How come Jesus doesn't deliver the presents? I find Christmas little more a religious holiday than New Years is, and so I can say Merry Christmas without feeling I'm pushing Christianity, merely a traditional shopping & festive holiday.


    I find it amusing when non religious people complain about Christmas being less and less a religious holiday when they will be the first to throw a conniption fit if there is any public display of Christmas. Office Christmas parties are now holiday parties. Businesses used to send out Christmas cards with religious themes and have religious displays. We used to have a display of Christmas lights in our local park, which receives not a nickel of public funding, called Christmas in the Oaks. The name was changed to Celebration in the Oaks. Mind you not a nickel of tax dollars maintains the park or the annual light display. So what is left that is safe to publicly celebrate, without offending the oh so "delicate" sensibilities of the unchurched and non Christians, is the gift giving (commercial) aspect of the holiday. And yes, January 1 is traditionally the feast of the circumcision as Jewish law required males to be circumcised on the 8th day after their birth. If you hold up your hand and count on your fingers with the first finger being Dec. 25 the eighth finger will be Jan 1. It is also known as the Solemnity of Mary. What needs to be celebrated publicly?

    Jesus doesn't bring gifts because he IS the gift. Gift giving is symbolic of the magi's gift to the Christ child. In many Christian cultures gifts are exchanged on Jan. 6, The Feast of the Epiphany or King's Day. Santa Claus is a bastardization of St. Nicholas Bishop of Myrna. He is a patron saint of children because of legends told of him concerning children and their welfare. In many cultures, it was St. Nick or Father Christmas or Papa Noel that brought gifts on Christmas Day.

    I'm always amused at how multiculturalism is a one way street. The dominate culture seems to be the one that has to be open and learn about and accommodate other cultures but it never seems incumbent for the other cultures to learn about and accommodate the dominate culture.

    But you are correct, if Christmas is just a commercial holiday with no religious connotations for you, then by all means enjoy the holiday on your terms.
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    Dec 28, 2015 6:42 PM GMT
    And to you too Bob & Carmen - belatedly