Health Negativity

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    Dec 25, 2015 7:41 PM GMT
    So last night I was doing cardio and decided to look up some inspirational weight loss success stories while i jogged. I had to stop because every "inspirational" story was so fucking depressing. "Don't believe the smile in this photo", said one guy. "I hated my life." I found a few stories about older people turning there health around from News stations. They were the only ones that didn't begin and end with a sad or longing note.

    Today I'm going to the movies. I'm going to cheat and I'm allocating myself 1000 calories to do so. I went to myfitnesspal to check out calories and the information was all over the place. Many people on that site are delusional as fuck about how much they are actually eating. I googled movie theater popcorn and this article came up.

    http://www.cspinet.org/nah/articles/moviepopcorn.html

    I'm starting to think many health advocates don't realize negativity doesn't work for everyone. Some physically healthy make good health seem like an unfortunate chore of life as opposed to a fun way to celebrate and be grateful for your life.

    Shout out to Paulflexes though. The guy is one of the most sane, positive former fat guys on the internet. That's how it should be done.
  • badbug

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    Dec 25, 2015 8:16 PM GMT

    Hmm...


    Maybe that's the benefit of doing it for 2 simple reasons....

    1.) so much of what we eat is bad for you

    2.) i want to look good, yo


    Diet is easy to maintain, cause the only other option is how unhealthy most shit is. I feel good when i eat some organic blueberries. I feel bad when i eat a cheeseburger from a fast food place. It doesn't seem appealing to me because i know what's in it and am not in denial about it....I wouldn't touch movie theatre popcorn with a 10 ft pole...not cause i am depriving myself but because i just don't look at that stuff the way i used to. I'll still eat a fat burger but not one cooked on teflon with vegetable oil.


    So i feel what you're saying, i think it's just all how you look at it. Not many people look at not doing meth as an unfortunate chore, it just seems like common sense. I think a big part of health negativity, is that society doesn't carry around the same attitude towards being unhealthy or eating unhealthy things. Nobody wants to admit most of the stuff they eat is hurting them. It's far easier to deny the links between this and that as being unsubstantiated or overblown.

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    Dec 25, 2015 9:45 PM GMT
    badbug said
    Hmm...


    Maybe that's the benefit of doing it for 2 simple reasons....

    1.) so much of what we eat is bad for you

    2.) i want to look good, yo


    Diet is easy to maintain, cause the only other option is how unhealthy most shit is. I feel good when i eat some organic blueberries. I feel bad when i eat a cheeseburger from a fast food place. It doesn't seem appealing to me because i know what's in it and am not in denial about it....I wouldn't touch movie theatre popcorn with a 10 ft pole...not cause i am depriving myself but because i just don't look at that stuff the way i used to. I'll still eat a fat burger but not one cooked on teflon with vegetable oil.


    So i feel what you're saying, i think it's just all how you look at it. Not many people look at not doing meth as an unfortunate chore, it just seems like common sense. I think a big part of health negativity, is that society doesn't carry around the same attitude towards being unhealthy or eating unhealthy things. Nobody wants to admit most of the stuff they eat is hurting them. It's far easier to deny the links between this and that as being unsubstantiated or overblown.



    I have to admit I admire and respect t you. Most people aren't as blunt and don't accept what drives them the way you do. Your social animal; all humans are. You unapologetically admit that the opinions of your fellow humans Is a huge motivating factor in why you do what you do. That's rare.

    I try to stay away from food politics because people can become very nasty about it. This guy vegan gains is one of the most repugnant people on youtube because he attacks anyone with a differing opinion.

    I understand where you are coming from about the popcorn. We all view different foods and beverages differently. I love French fries, popcorn, and carbonated drinks. I'm slowly becoming a vegetarian, so meat is not that important to me, and could live the rest of my life without alcohol.
  • badbug

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    Dec 26, 2015 3:35 AM GMT

    I admire and respect me too, so we have that in common. icon_smile.gif


    Most people aren't as blunt and don't accept what drives them the way you do


    I try. I am a very emotional person and in order to prevent myself from taking too drastic of measures, it has always been very important for me to understand as best as possible why i feel the way i do. It doesn't always work or rarely works i suppose in all but the most extreme circumstances but it does allow me to sharpen the image i have of my own motivations, since i am always second guessing them.



    carbonated drinks


    Oh this i understand. I love pop. (or soda i guess depending where you are from) It's probably the hardest thing i have given up. I am not a fan of artificial sweeteners, so the only beverage i have found is a brand called "zevia" but it has stevia, which i don't want to be taking in high doses.

    I am such a pop addict, that 2 cans of pop a day seems like a tease. LOL So i don't even bother with any cause 2 is just not enough. In a world with nanobots repairing any damage and keeping us all looking perfect, i would be drinking 6 cans of coke and 3 cans of orange crush a day. Course, i didn't really drink the whole can, i would drink like half a can until it stopped being perfectly cold then i would open a new one.
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    Dec 28, 2015 2:47 AM GMT
    badbug said
    I admire and respect me too, so we have that in common. icon_smile.gif


    Most people aren't as blunt and don't accept what drives them the way you do


    I try. I am a very emotional person and in order to prevent myself from taking too drastic of measures, it has always been very important for me to understand as best as possible why i feel the way i do. It doesn't always work or rarely works i suppose in all but the most extreme circumstances but it does allow me to sharpen the image i have of my own motivations, since i am always second guessing them.



    carbonated drinks


    Oh this i understand. I love pop. (or soda i guess depending where you are from) It's probably the hardest thing i have given up. I am not a fan of artificial sweeteners, so the only beverage i have found is a brand called "zevia" but it has stevia, which i don't want to be taking in high doses.

    I am such a pop addict, that 2 cans of pop a day seems like a tease. LOL So i don't even bother with any cause 2 is just not enough. In a world with nanobots repairing any damage and keeping us all looking perfect, i would be drinking 6 cans of coke and 3 cans of orange crush a day. Course, i didn't really drink the whole can, i would drink like half a can until it stopped being perfectly cold then i would open a new one.
    I gave up soda when I was in my late 30s and avoid all these artificial sweeteners as well. I am also trying to keep that toxic high fructose corn syrup out of my diet as much as humanly possible. About two years ago I bought a can of Pepsi and when I took the first swig I literally spat most of it out. I just couldn't stand the taste because it was too sweet. To sweeten up tea and coffee, I either use either honey or natural maple syrup. You can break your soda dependency. It is very hard at first but you can kick soda out of your diet. Trust me on this one because I used to be a soda junkie.
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    Dec 29, 2015 4:35 PM GMT
    badbug said
    I admire and respect me too, so we have that in common. icon_smile.gif


    Most people aren't as blunt and don't accept what drives them the way you do


    I try. I am a very emotional person and in order to prevent myself from taking too drastic of measures, it has always been very important for me to understand as best as possible why i feel the way i do. It doesn't always work or rarely works i suppose in all but the most extreme circumstances but it does allow me to sharpen the image i have of my own motivations, since i am always second guessing them.



    carbonated drinks


    Oh this i understand. I love pop. (or soda i guess depending where you are from) It's probably the hardest thing i have given up. I am not a fan of artificial sweeteners, so the only beverage i have found is a brand called "zevia" but it has stevia, which i don't want to be taking in high doses.

    I am such a pop addict, that 2 cans of pop a day seems like a tease. LOL So i don't even bother with any cause 2 is just not enough. In a world with nanobots repairing any damage and keeping us all looking perfect, i would be drinking 6 cans of coke and 3 cans of orange crush a day. Course, i didn't really drink the whole can, i would drink like half a can until it stopped being perfectly cold then i would open a new one.


    Its not really soda that I crave, just carbonated beverages. They had some mint leaves in the produce isle yesterday so I bought some and chucked it in a seltzer water. OMFG perfect. I don't know why I have never done that before. You would think i would have given that when I worked at starbucks one of my favorite things to do was throw a mint tea bag in ice water. I loved it when they started making carbonated drinks but I always carbonated tea. I didn't like the sodas. I think I'll buy myself a soda stream. I've really only drank so much soda because its the most easily accessible carbonated drink. Not because I love them.
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    Jan 02, 2016 1:22 AM GMT
    MrFuscle saidShout out to Paulflexes though. The guy is one of the most sane, positive former fat guys on the internet. That's how it should be done.
    Wow man, a deep heartfelt thank you is in order! Another RJ member just pointed me to this thread (kinda been inactive here lately). Sounds like you found the secret for getting and staying healthy...and the secret is simple: Have fun! Because if it isn't fun, nobody will do it.

    Happy New Year! icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jan 02, 2016 1:25 AM GMT
    badbug said
    Hmm...


    Maybe that's the benefit of doing it for 2 simple reasons....

    1.) so much of what we eat is bad for you

    2.) i want to look good, yo
    Tell #2 to a person in their 80's+. Once a certain age is reached where physical attractiveness is a lost cause, our health is the only thing left (besides family and friends, of course). But #1 is true. icon_wink.gif
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    Jan 02, 2016 3:35 AM GMT
    For some people, diet is just hard. For me there are times when I can totally maintain a strict, healthful diet, and others when it is painfully hard. Right now I am moving from the latter to the former. I think if more people understood that, it would be easier on those who have a hard time dieting. I also think a lot of people who don't have a good time eating well don't fully understand the wide range of options (very satisfying options) that are available. Though, I guess I am assuming they have a good supply of money and access to a grocery store and a kitchen. Not everyone has those things...