When fat jokes etc. were ok.

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    Dec 28, 2015 6:27 AM GMT
    Phyllis Diller - Fat Jokes 1977 (Stand Up)
    Good time to laugh at yourself and how fat you got over the Holidays and perhaps a reminder to get that extra off for the new year!!


    Now days you can't say much about anything or anyone without making someone cry or want to kill you!! lol
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    Dec 28, 2015 2:22 PM GMT
    2Bnaked said
    Now days you can't say much about anything or anyone without making someone cry or want to kill you!! lol


    Taking offense has become a national pastime here in the US and across the globe.
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    Dec 28, 2015 3:12 PM GMT
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    I once heard Dr Ruth on TV say something about how sex can be hotter when it has a sense of being forbidden. That in some way, as it becomes more open and accepted, it also has the danger of becoming less exciting.

    Comedy can be a wonderful vehicle to bring issues into awareness. In the process, at first what might be very funny, might later turn run of the mill and maybe even beyond that dull or after that it could turn into a turn off. Some things will always be funny. So to listen to those fat jokes, most of that was just stupid by today's level of consciousness. Some of it still funny. Being pushed through the Holland Tunnel to clean it will probably always maintain its cartoony affect upon the mind. So that will stay funny. Whereas other past humor can become in bad taste as we lose our taste for it.

    Modern example: that crass bitch Campanelli? Hold on. Google: Lampanelli. I think her humor is disgusting. It might have been funny when Don Rickles was doing it 40 years ago (and I didn't even think he was real funny) but today? With today's awareness? Yikes. She's a bitch, making money by insulting people. My brother and SIL went to see her recently, all excited to go but they reported afterwards that they didn't enjoy the show at all. Maybe one out of 10 lines of hers is funny. Maybe even very funny. But the rest is crap.

    That Diller (who I loved) had a whole routine on fatness in the 70s is kind of interesting because we didn't have the obesity then that you see today. But that is when people started fattening. So that humor might have been a prescient response, as a good comedian, and she certainly was one, tend to be able to tune right into society.

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    I recall my mom always kept a great figure, hopped up on "diet pills" in the 60s (it was fucking speed we later learned) and by the 70s she was into her exercises and protein shakes way before that was a trend, so I grew up with this stuff. So in the past when there was not a lot of obesity, the joke might have been more of a matter of breaking the ice whereas today it might be more a case of breaking the rules, of breaking out rude.

    Sometimes being overly sensitive is neurotic. Sometimes our sensitivities are just.
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    Dec 28, 2015 5:22 PM GMT
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    "I live in California, the worst place in the world for fat people. There are three of us. They have us on eight-hour shifts, so it works out." - Louie Anderson

    Louie still thinks fat jokes are OK.


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    Dec 28, 2015 9:39 PM GMT
    I blame it on the way society has changed by idiocity, literally. We've become too tolerant to many things, that half the world refuses to acknowledge the harsh reality behind it all: poverty, obesity, trannies, politics, technology, etc... fake nonsense is blinding us all. Watch disney's Wall-E, maybe then people will wake up and smell the coffee.
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    Dec 29, 2015 7:30 AM GMT
    Mabey you are just too sensitive when it comes to fat jokes. I make fat jokes all the time. The difference is that I don't make fun of other people. If I did and they got upset I wouldn't cry about it. You have the right to be offensive. Others have the right to respond. Free speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences.
  • buddycat

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    Dec 29, 2015 11:20 AM GMT
    My favorite was "if you get on an elevator with her you better be going down".
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    Dec 29, 2015 2:14 PM GMT
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    "I live in California, the worst place in the world for fat people. There are three of us. They have us on eight-hour shifts, so it works out." - Louie Anderson

    Louie still thinks fat jokes are OK.


    Self-deprecation is the little black dress of comedy, never out of style. That's different than purposely inflicting pain upon others, regardless of what a person might think their purpose be. Oh, I'm just toughening them up by treating them like shit and laughing about it. Yeah, right!

    To your graph, I'd look at more current than 10 years ago because now there's even a diabetes issue in SE Asia of all places where they've gone from rice cakes to (insert #) layered cakes & other bakery goods.

    Though some project further fatness, there are other indications of obesity finally starting to decrease or at least level off here (compared to how it had been spiking since after the 70s

    here's child obesity chart from 2013
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    while overseas now is catching up to be overweight.
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    https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2228rank.html

    Rank Country (%) Date of Information

    1 American Samoa 74.60 2007
    2 Nauru 71.10 2008
    3 Cook Islands 63.70 2008
    4 Tokelau 63.40 2007
    5 Tonga 57.60 2008
    6 Samoa 54.10 2008
    7 Palau 48.90 2008
    8 Kiribati 46.00 2008
    9 Marshall Islands 45.40 2008
    10 Kuwait 42.00 2008
    11 Saint Kitts and Nevis 40.70 2008
    12 Micronesia, Federated States of 40.60 2008
    13 Bahamas, The 34.70 2008
    14 Barbados 34.70 2008
    15 Belize 33.70 2008
    16 Qatar 33.20 2008
    17 Egypt 33.10 2008
    18 United States 33.00 2008
    19 Saudi Arabia 33.00 2008
    20 Bahrain 32.90 2008
    21 Czech Republic 32.70 2008
    22 United Arab Emirates 32.70 2008
    23 Mexico 32.10 2008
    24 South Africa 31.30 2008
    25 Fiji 30.60 2008
    26 Venezuela 30.30 2008
    27 Solomon Islands 30.00 2008
    28 Jordan 30.00 2008
    29 Argentina 29.70 2008
    30 Chile 29.40 2008

    160 Indonesia 4.80 2008
    161 Liberia 4.80 2008
    162 Somalia 4.80 2008
    163 Congo, Republic of the 4.70 2008
    164 Comoros 4.40 2008
    165 Guinea 4.40 2008
    166 Mali 4.30 2008
    167 Uganda 4.30 2008
    168 Malawi 4.30 2008
    169 Togo 4.30 2008
    170 Rwanda 4.30 2008
    171 Kenya 4.20 2008
    172 Burma 4.00 2008
    173 Korea, North 3.90 2008
    174 Zambia 3.60 2008
    175 Central African Republic 3.50 2008
    176 Burundi 2.90 2008
    177 Chad 2.70 2008
    178 Timor-Leste 2.70 2008
    179 Laos 2.60 2008
    180 Niger 2.40 2008
    181 Burkina Faso 2.30 2008
    182 Afghanistan 2.20 2008
    183 Cambodia 2.10 2008
    184 India 1.90 2008
    185 Congo, Democratic Republic of the 1.70 2008
    186 Vietnam 1.70 2008
    187 Madagascar 1.60 2008
    188 Eritrea 1.50 2008
    189 Nepal 1.40 2008
    190 Bangladesh 1.10 2008
    191 Ethiopia 1.10 2008


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    Dec 29, 2015 7:56 PM GMT
    UndercoverMan said
    2Bnaked said
    Now days you can't say much about anything or anyone without making someone cry or want to kill you!! lol


    Taking offense has become a national pastime here in the US and across the globe.


    Not across the globe, the bigotry in jokes is well alive and not offended here.
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    Dec 29, 2015 9:53 PM GMT
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    UndercoverMan said
    2Bnaked said
    Now days you can't say much about anything or anyone without making someone cry or want to kill you!! lol


    Taking offense has become a national pastime here in the US and across the globe.


    Not across the globe, the bigotry in jokes is well alive and not offended here.


    Which very well could reflect the level of awareness of a culture--of topics coming into consciousness--with regard, for instance, to the differences between a caste system and one based upon equality and then comedy operates as I described above.

    So as a society struggles with a concept, it might filter that through comedy which acts as a lubricant allowing a topic into conversation.

    Just as gay people in America were the, um, butt of the joke in 70s sitcoms whereas before that we were hardly even in discussion and after that the so-called "sensitivities" set in.

    These sensitivities are expressions of consciousness. Continuing to bash comic can be like continuing to knock at a door which was already opened after you rang the bell.
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    Dec 29, 2015 10:58 PM GMT
    theantijock Sometimes being overly sensitive is neurotic.

    Does the number 171 mean anything to you???
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    Dec 30, 2015 12:35 AM GMT
    The way I see it, there's a difference between a light-hearted joke and a mean spirited one. A joke intentionally made to make someone feel bad is never okay.

    Then again, it's also important to be able to laugh at yourself sometimes.
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    Dec 30, 2015 5:10 AM GMT
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    2Bnaked said
    Now days you can't say much about anything or anyone without making someone cry or want to kill you!! lol


    Taking offense has become a national pastime here in the US and across the globe.


    It became a national pastime when social media was created.
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    Dec 30, 2015 4:31 PM GMT
    ^The seeds where planted in the 1980s with the advent of political correctness and fertilized by social media.