Classic Car Museums

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    Car and Driver lists 10 noteable Classic Car Museums in the US.

    1. Petersen Automotive Museum – Los Angeles, CA
    2. Antique Automobile Club of America Museum – Hershey, PA
    3. National Corvette Museum – Bowling Green, KY
    4. Indianapolis Motor Speedway Hall of Fame – Indianapolis, IN
    5. The Henry Ford – Dearborn, MI
    6. Lane Motor Museum – Nashville, TN
    7. Larz Anderson Auto Museum – Brookline, MA
    8. Mullin Automotive Museum – Oxnard, CA
    9. Simeone Foundation Automotive Museum – Philadelphia, PA
    10. National Automobile Museum – Reno, NV

    http://blog.caranddriver.com/bored-over-the-holiday-break-these-10-auto-museums-are-worth-a-visit/

    Please offer your feedback on these...or add others to this list.
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    Not generally open to the public, as far as I know, but I once visited (because I bought some equipment from them) MovieCars Inc. in Hollywood. They are in the business of supplying vehicles of all kinds to TV and Movie productions, and fabricate custom stuff. (E.g. They were building several "NightRider" vehicles in the shop for a movie when I was there.) There was an amazing volume of vehicles constantly going in and out the gate.

    Anyway, their building is set up like a fairly large museum with some of their more famous creations. Occasionally, parts of the place are used as a movie set itself. IIRC, IronMan's garage, for example.

    They let us just wander around for an hour, while waiting for the paperwork.
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    mindgarden saidNot generally open to the public, as far as I know, but I once visited (because I bought some equipment from them) MovieCars Inc. in Hollywood. They are in the business of supplying vehicles of all kinds to TV and Movie productions, and fabricate custom stuff. (E.g. They were building several "NightRider" vehicles in the shop for a movie when I was there.) There was an amazing volume of vehicles constantly going in and out the gate.

    Anyway, their building is set up like a fairly large museum with some of their more famous creations. Occasionally, parts of the place are used as a movie set itself. IIRC, IronMan's garage, for example.

    They let us just wander around for an hour, while waiting for the paperwork.


    At least it's a good excuse to wait. I think it'd be an excellent idea for a car museum.

    Speaking of movie cars, I was in San Francisco during filming of the Harvey Milk movie and noticed a bunch of nice looking 60's/70's cars just parked on the street and seemingly unattended. Surreal.
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    Dec 30, 2015 12:19 AM GMT
    Petersen is the Mecca, at least on the West Coast. Amazing car collection.

    My Dad built and owned Sears Point International Raceway, later Inferion, and now Sonoma Raceway. He had it for 5 years and sold it. Hard to make money back in the three network days with Laguna Seca in Monterey down the road. But they do well now.

    I was lucky enough to meet the great drivers of that era: Parnelli Jones, great guy. Mario Andretti, another great guy. Al and Bobby Unser, nice guys but drunks when not driving and maybe a few times when they drove. AJ Foyt. Dan Gurney, the best pure racer that ever lived and a great guy.

    And I met Paul Newman, Steve McQueen, Robert Redford. All amateur drivers but pretty good. Newman was very good. Met Evel Knievel when he wanted to do a jump there early in his career. He was drunk and the Race Directors said no way. Too dangerous. He had a cane that was actually a flask of whiskey and he kept taking off the top for a swig. He went to vegas instead and crashed big time but made himself famous.
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    S2Ki saidCar and Driver lists 10 noteable Classic Car Museums in the US.

    1. Petersen Automotive Museum – Los Angeles, CA
    2. Antique Automobile Club of America Museum – Hershey, PA
    3. National Corvette Museum – Bowling Green, KY
    4. Indianapolis Motor Speedway Hall of Fame – Indianapolis, IN
    5. The Henry Ford – Dearborn, MI
    6. Lane Motor Museum – Nashville, TN
    7. Larz Anderson Auto Museum – Brookline, MA
    8. Mullin Automotive Museum – Oxnard, CA
    9. Simeone Foundation Automotive Museum – Philadelphia, PA
    10. National Automobile Museum – Reno, NV

    http://blog.caranddriver.com/bored-over-the-holiday-break-these-10-auto-museums-are-worth-a-visit/

    Please offer your feedback on these...or add others to this list.


    I've been in most of these at one time or another including the Bill Harrah collection before he died and the 1,400 car collection was broken up and now down to around 200 cars.
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    Triggerman saidPetersen is the Mecca, at least on the West Coast. Amazing car collection.

    My Dad built and owned Sears Point International Raceway, later Inferion, and now Sonoma Raceway. He had it for 5 years and sold it. Hard to make money back in the three network days with Laguna Seca in Monterey down the road. But they do well now.

    I was lucky enough to meet the great drivers of that era: Parnelli Jones, great guy. Mario Andretti, another great guy. Al and Bobby Unser, nice guys but drunks when not driving and maybe a few times when they drove.

    Yep

    AJ Foyt. Dan Gurney, the best pure racer that ever lived and a great guy.

    And I met Paul Newman, Steve McQueen, Robert Redford. All amateur drivers but pretty good. Newman was very good. Met Evel Knievel when he wanted to do a jump there early in his career. He was drunk and the Race Directors said no way. Too dangerous. He had a cane that was actually a flask of whiskey and he kept taking off the top for a swig. He went to vegas instead and crashed big time but made himself famous.



    "Dan Gurney, the best pure racer that ever lived and a great guy."

    And still with us and healthy as best I know

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    S2Ki saidCar and Driver lists 10 noteable Classic Car Museums in the US.

    1. Petersen Automotive Museum – Los Angeles, CA
    2. Antique Automobile Club of America Museum – Hershey, PA
    3. National Corvette Museum – Bowling Green, KY
    4. Indianapolis Motor Speedway Hall of Fame – Indianapolis, IN
    5. The Henry Ford – Dearborn, MI
    6. Lane Motor Museum – Nashville, TN
    7. Larz Anderson Auto Museum – Brookline, MA
    8. Mullin Automotive Museum – Oxnard, CA
    9. Simeone Foundation Automotive Museum – Philadelphia, PA
    10. National Automobile Museum – Reno, NV

    http://blog.caranddriver.com/bored-over-the-holiday-break-these-10-auto-museums-are-worth-a-visit/

    Please offer your feedback on these...or add others to this list.


    In looking at the pictures of the cars in those museums, it seems as though only a few of the cars are really classics. Most of them are simply antiques.
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    Dec 30, 2015 11:36 PM GMT
    Ohho hot damn, thank you for this thread icon_biggrin.gif gives me a better reason to travel.
    There's an awesome car show that happens every summer here in St Catharines, Ontario (Canada), may want to check it out as well.
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    What is wrong with me? I forgot to list our very own home town...

    Route 30 Classics: Porsche Museum, Ice Cream, and Bicycle Rental

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    Triggerman saidPetersen is the Mecca, at least on the West Coast. Amazing car collection.

    My Dad built and owned Sears Point International Raceway, later Inferion, and now Sonoma Raceway. He had it for 5 years and sold it. Hard to make money back in the three network days with Laguna Seca in Monterey down the road. But they do well now.

    I was lucky enough to meet the great drivers of that era: Parnelli Jones, great guy. Mario Andretti, another great guy. Al and Bobby Unser, nice guys but drunks when not driving and maybe a few times when they drove.

    Yep

    AJ Foyt. Dan Gurney, the best pure racer that ever lived and a great guy.

    And I met Paul Newman, Steve McQueen, Robert Redford. All amateur drivers but pretty good. Newman was very good. Met Evel Knievel when he wanted to do a jump there early in his career. He was drunk and the Race Directors said no way. Too dangerous. He had a cane that was actually a flask of whiskey and he kept taking off the top for a swig. He went to vegas instead and crashed big time but made himself famous.



    "Dan Gurney, the best pure racer that ever lived and a great guy."

    And still with us and healthy as best I know

    Dan_GurneyNASCAR_28.jpg

    This is really something. I've only been there when it was Sears Point. I understand it's now called Sonoma Raceway.
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    Thanks guys for the suggestions. I want to mention a couple myself.

    Auto Collections - Las Vegas, NV
    http://www.autocollections.com
    Formerly the Imperial Palace Hotel, recently remodeled and named the Linq Hotel. Free admission, and you don't have to be a guest at the hotel to visit. Most of the cars are on consignment, so I wonder if somebody hits it big at the slots, they can reward themselves with a classic car. icon_smile.gif

    Sarasota Classic Car Museum - Sarasota, FL
    http://www.sarasotacarmuseum.org/
    I haven't visited for 10 years, but I may take it in again when I'm down there in a few weeks.
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    Triggerman saidPetersen is the Mecca, at least on the West Coast. Amazing car collection.

    My Dad built and owned Sears Point International Raceway, later Inferion, and now Sonoma Raceway. He had it for 5 years and sold it. Hard to make money back in the three network days with Laguna Seca in Monterey down the road. But they do well now.

    I was lucky enough to meet the great drivers of that era: Parnelli Jones, great guy. Mario Andretti, another great guy. Al and Bobby Unser, nice guys but drunks when not driving and maybe a few times when they drove.

    Yep

    AJ Foyt. Dan Gurney, the best pure racer that ever lived and a great guy.

    And I met Paul Newman, Steve McQueen, Robert Redford. All amateur drivers but pretty good. Newman was very good. Met Evel Knievel when he wanted to do a jump there early in his career. He was drunk and the Race Directors said no way. Too dangerous. He had a cane that was actually a flask of whiskey and he kept taking off the top for a swig. He went to vegas instead and crashed big time but made himself famous.



    "Dan Gurney, the best pure racer that ever lived and a great guy."

    And still with us and healthy as best I know

    Dan_GurneyNASCAR_28.jpg

    This is really something. I've only been there when it was Sears Point. I understand it's now called Sonoma Raceway.


    No, this is part of the historic races during Monterey week at Laguna Seca not Sears Point.



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    S2Ki saidThanks guys for the suggestions. I want to mention a couple myself.

    Auto Collections - Las Vegas, NV
    http://www.autocollections.com
    Formerly the Imperial Palace Hotel, recently remodeled and named the Linq Hotel. Free admission, and you don't have to be a guest at the hotel to visit. Most of the cars are on consignment, so I wonder if somebody hits it big at the slots, they can reward themselves with a classic car. icon_smile.gif

    Sarasota Classic Car Museum - Sarasota, FL
    http://www.sarasotacarmuseum.org/
    I haven't visited for 10 years, but I may take it in again when I'm down there in a few weeks.


    The Imperial Palace Auto Collection is much more of a sales lot than any kind of museum. Great place to shop while loaded, both $$$$ and alcohol, where you'll find many #2 and #3 cars at #1 prices.

    If someone is looking for #1 cars at #1++++ prices, this is a better bet.

    http://www.rkmotorscharlotte.com/

    http://www.rkmotorscharlotte.com/sales/inventory/active#
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    S2Ki saidThanks guys for the suggestions. I want to mention a couple myself.

    Auto Collections - Las Vegas, NV
    http://www.autocollections.com
    Formerly the Imperial Palace Hotel, recently remodeled and named the Linq Hotel. Free admission, and you don't have to be a guest at the hotel to visit. Most of the cars are on consignment, so I wonder if somebody hits it big at the slots, they can reward themselves with a classic car. icon_smile.gif

    Sarasota Classic Car Museum - Sarasota, FL
    http://www.sarasotacarmuseum.org/
    I haven't visited for 10 years, but I may take it in again when I'm down there in a few weeks.


    The Imperial Palace Auto Collection is much more of a sales lot than any kind of museum. Great place to shop while loaded, both $$$$ and alcohol, where you'll find many #2 and #3 cars at #1 prices.

    If someone is looking for #1 cars at #1++++ prices, this is a better bet.

    http://www.rkmotorscharlotte.com/

    http://www.rkmotorscharlotte.com/sales/inventory/active#


    Wow, beautiful cars. It's amazing how classic sports cars seem to be worth so much more than classic luxury cars.

    Actually, #1 or even #2 cars are too perfect for me. I love cars to the point where they end up owning me. I just sold a Honda S2000 in excellent #2 condition because they don't make anymore, and I felt like I needed to be more a curator than just enjoy driving it. I wanted to keep it, but I live by the beach where the air can be salty and damp, so I rented a garage 20 miles away. Plus that car is best enjoyed on the track, free from distracted drivers and cops. So I'll revisit this game when I'm back making more money.

    I'm now perusing around for a steal on a #3 or #4 car I can pick up and play around with. I had a car buddy who used to visit the local Catholic Charities car lot and buy old cars that were towed in and not running. I remember he paid $100 for a 1978 Coupe Deville with a moonroof and super low miles. Sprayed starter fluid into the carburetor to get it running, clay bared and shampooed it up, then drove it around until something else caught his eye. Probably got $5,000 for it. Hard to find, but they're out there.
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    S2Ki saidThanks guys for the suggestions. I want to mention a couple myself.

    Auto Collections - Las Vegas, NV
    http://www.autocollections.com
    Formerly the Imperial Palace Hotel, recently remodeled and named the Linq Hotel. Free admission, and you don't have to be a guest at the hotel to visit. Most of the cars are on consignment, so I wonder if somebody hits it big at the slots, they can reward themselves with a classic car. icon_smile.gif

    Sarasota Classic Car Museum - Sarasota, FL
    http://www.sarasotacarmuseum.org/
    I haven't visited for 10 years, but I may take it in again when I'm down there in a few weeks.


    The Imperial Palace Auto Collection is much more of a sales lot than any kind of museum. Great place to shop while loaded, both $$$$ and alcohol, where you'll find many #2 and #3 cars at #1 prices.

    If someone is looking for #1 cars at #1++++ prices, this is a better bet.

    http://www.rkmotorscharlotte.com/

    http://www.rkmotorscharlotte.com/sales/inventory/active#


    Wow, beautiful cars. It's amazing how classic sports cars seem to be worth so much more than classic luxury cars.

    Actually, #1 or even #2 cars are too perfect for me. I love cars to the point where they end up owning me. I just sold a Honda S2000 in excellent #2 condition because they don't make anymore, and I felt like I needed to be more a curator than just enjoy driving it. I wanted to keep it, but I live by the beach where the air can be salty and damp, so I rented a garage 20 miles away. Plus that car is best enjoyed on the track, free from distracted drivers and cops. So I'll revisit this game when I'm back making more money.

    I'm now perusing around for a steal on a #3 or #4 car I can pick up and play around with. I had a car buddy who used to visit the local Catholic Charities car lot and buy old cars that were towed in and not running. I remember he paid $100 for a 1978 Coupe Deville with a moonroof and super low miles. Sprayed starter fluid into the carburetor to get it running, clay bared and shampooed it up, then drove it around until something else caught his eye. Probably got $5,000 for it. Hard to find, but they're out there.


    I spent the time and money to restore my 63 GP to a #1 condition, but I have a hell of a time keeping it there. It's really a #2 the moment you start driving it.

    I do everything I can, but the restoration was 16 years ago. And other than a Chinese remanufactured fuel pump a few years (that drove me completely crazy for a while) the car has been amazingly reliable.

    It's been oil changes and filters and a lot of detailing. Well worth it and a great way to meet people. Plus, I love the way these 60s personal luxury coupes ride and drive.

    If you're looking, you're likely a lot better off with a 60s versus a 70s. And if it's a GM B or C body the best is 65 or 66. Actually through 1970 but you start getting a lot more plastics in the interior in the late 60s.
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    I need to get off this rock!! LOL. Id love to do a road trip visiting all these museums ( with my hot new man of course..) maybe drive R66 along the way. SO anyone want to?? icon_smile.gif
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    hairyandym saidI need to get off this rock!! LOL. Id love to do a road trip visiting all these museums ( with my hot new man of course..) maybe drive R66 along the way. SO anyone want to?? icon_smile.gif


    The best event(s) in one of the most beautiful venues in the world is

    http://www.montereycarweek.com/

    http://www.montereycarweek.com/Events.html

    I did this 23 consecutive years and it's the greatest of them all. After this, you'll be all car(ed) out for a while and nothing else will matter for a while. Good thing because you're wallet will be empty for a while too.

    Here's a trip for you. Do this on 3rd week of August then head down through Big Sur to LA. On the way back up catch color country in southern Utah and then on Burning Man for four or five days.
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    And speaking of NASCAR we lost one of the greats yesterday

    http://www.nascar.com/en_us/news-media/articles/2015/12/31/marvin-panch-passes-away-at-89.html
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    S2Ki saidThanks guys for the suggestions. I want to mention a couple myself.

    Auto Collections - Las Vegas, NV
    http://www.autocollections.com
    Formerly the Imperial Palace Hotel, recently remodeled and named the Linq Hotel. Free admission, and you don't have to be a guest at the hotel to visit. Most of the cars are on consignment, so I wonder if somebody hits it big at the slots, they can reward themselves with a classic car. icon_smile.gif

    Sarasota Classic Car Museum - Sarasota, FL
    http://www.sarasotacarmuseum.org/
    I haven't visited for 10 years, but I may take it in again when I'm down there in a few weeks.


    The Imperial Palace Auto Collection is much more of a sales lot than any kind of museum. Great place to shop while loaded, both $$$$ and alcohol, where you'll find many #2 and #3 cars at #1 prices.

    If someone is looking for #1 cars at #1++++ prices, this is a better bet.

    http://www.rkmotorscharlotte.com/

    http://www.rkmotorscharlotte.com/sales/inventory/active#


    Wow, beautiful cars. It's amazing how classic sports cars seem to be worth so much more than classic luxury cars.

    Actually, #1 or even #2 cars are too perfect for me. I love cars to the point where they end up owning me. I just sold a Honda S2000 in excellent #2 condition because they don't make anymore, and I felt like I needed to be more a curator than just enjoy driving it. I wanted to keep it, but I live by the beach where the air can be salty and damp, so I rented a garage 20 miles away. Plus that car is best enjoyed on the track, free from distracted drivers and cops. So I'll revisit this game when I'm back making more money.

    I'm now perusing around for a steal on a #3 or #4 car I can pick up and play around with. I had a car buddy who used to visit the local Catholic Charities car lot and buy old cars that were towed in and not running. I remember he paid $100 for a 1978 Coupe Deville with a moonroof and super low miles. Sprayed starter fluid into the carburetor to get it running, clay bared and shampooed it up, then drove it around until something else caught his eye. Probably got $5,000 for it. Hard to find, but they're out there.


    I spent the time and money to restore my 63 GP to a #1 condition, but I have a hell of a time keeping it there. It's really a #2 the moment you start driving it.

    I do everything I can, but the restoration was 16 years ago. And other than a Chinese remanufactured fuel pump a few years (that drove me completely crazy for a while) the car has been amazingly reliable.

    It's been oil changes and filters and a lot of detailing. Well worth it and a great way to meet people. Plus, I love the way these 60s personal luxury coupes ride and drive.

    If you're looking, you're likely a lot better off with a 60s versus a 70s. And if it's a GM B or C body the best is 65 or 66. Actually through 1970 but you start getting a lot more plastics in the interior in the late 60s.


    Yes, I think cars of the 60's are objectively better, but it's the 1970's GM and Ford models that have the biggest emotional pull for me. My dad was always shopping around for cars, and I'd always accompany him. The dealers were closed on Sundays, and we'd still go around and look at the cars.

    I grew up in the same small Massachusetts town as Jay Leno, and can relate to his stories about the small Ford dealer in town. It was so small, the owner would sell 1/2 the cars there, and my dad could take a car home overnight for a test drive. Dad bought one of the first 65 Mustangs from them. When I was in high school, the Ford dealer had closed, and I begged the Chevy Cadillac dealer for a job, until they finally let me work in the recon department. It was a thrilling job to be able to drive all the new Z-28's and Corvettes. I remember the day I came into work and saw the 1979 E body Eldorado. One of the most stunning styling examples of the era. I got to prep a black Biarritz with a moonroof for the owner's wife. It was a family owned dealership, and I worked alongside the owner's kids, and they really treated everybody like family. What a great place to start my work career!!

    So, yeah, all those 70's cars bring back so many fond memories. And the dealership, pictured, is still owned by the same family, and still decidedly old school. So maybe I'll get my next car from them.
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    S2Ki said
    freedomisntfree said
    S2Ki saidThanks guys for the suggestions. I want to mention a couple myself.

    Auto Collections - Las Vegas, NV
    http://www.autocollections.com
    Formerly the Imperial Palace Hotel, recently remodeled and named the Linq Hotel. Free admission, and you don't have to be a guest at the hotel to visit. Most of the cars are on consignment, so I wonder if somebody hits it big at the slots, they can reward themselves with a classic car. icon_smile.gif

    Sarasota Classic Car Museum - Sarasota, FL
    http://www.sarasotacarmuseum.org/
    I haven't visited for 10 years, but I may take it in again when I'm down there in a few weeks.


    The Imperial Palace Auto Collection is much more of a sales lot than any kind of museum. Great place to shop while loaded, both $$$$ and alcohol, where you'll find many #2 and #3 cars at #1 prices.

    If someone is looking for #1 cars at #1++++ prices, this is a better bet.

    http://www.rkmotorscharlotte.com/

    http://www.rkmotorscharlotte.com/sales/inventory/active#


    Wow, beautiful cars. It's amazing how classic sports cars seem to be worth so much more than classic luxury cars.

    Actually, #1 or even #2 cars are too perfect for me. I love cars to the point where they end up owning me. I just sold a Honda S2000 in excellent #2 condition because they don't make anymore, and I felt like I needed to be more a curator than just enjoy driving it. I wanted to keep it, but I live by the beach where the air can be salty and damp, so I rented a garage 20 miles away. Plus that car is best enjoyed on the track, free from distracted drivers and cops. So I'll revisit this game when I'm back making more money.

    I'm now perusing around for a steal on a #3 or #4 car I can pick up and play around with. I had a car buddy who used to visit the local Catholic Charities car lot and buy old cars that were towed in and not running. I remember he paid $100 for a 1978 Coupe Deville with a moonroof and super low miles. Sprayed starter fluid into the carburetor to get it running, clay bared and shampooed it up, then drove it around until something else caught his eye. Probably got $5,000 for it. Hard to find, but they're out there.


    I spent the time and money to restore my 63 GP to a #1 condition, but I have a hell of a time keeping it there. It's really a #2 the moment you start driving it.

    I do everything I can, but the restoration was 16 years ago. And other than a Chinese remanufactured fuel pump a few years (that drove me completely crazy for a while) the car has been amazingly reliable.

    It's been oil changes and filters and a lot of detailing. Well worth it and a great way to meet people. Plus, I love the way these 60s personal luxury coupes ride and drive.

    If you're looking, you're likely a lot better off with a 60s versus a 70s. And if it's a GM B or C body the best is 65 or 66. Actually through 1970 but you start getting a lot more plastics in the interior in the late 60s.


    Yes, I think cars of the 60's are objectively better, but it's the 1970's GM and Ford models that have the biggest emotional pull for me. My dad was always shopping around for cars, and I'd always accompany him. The dealers were closed on Sundays, and we'd still go around and look at the cars.

    I grew up in the same small Massachusetts town as Jay Leno, and can relate to his stories about the small Ford dealer in town. It was so small, the owner would sell 1/2 the cars there, and my dad could take a car home overnight for a test drive. Dad bought one of the first 65 Mustangs from them. When I was in high school, the Ford dealer had closed, and I begged the Chevy Cadillac dealer for a job, until they finally let me work in the recon department. It was a thrilling job to be able to drive all the new Z-28's and Corvettes. I remember the day I came into work and saw the 1979 E body Eldorado. One of the most stunning styling examples of the era. I got to prep a black Biarritz with a moonroof for the owner's wife. It was a family owned dealership, and I worked alongside the owner's kids, and they really treated everybody like family. What a great place to start my work career!!

    So, yeah, all those 70's cars bring back so many fond memories. And the dealership, pictured, is still owned by the same family, and still decidedly old school. So maybe I'll get my next car from them.
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    "I remember the day I came into work and saw the 1979 E body Eldorado"

    But a terrible car and was about to get worse when it got the 368 8-6-4 the next year (81) and then the 4.1 V8 in 82. At least the 79 had the choice of the Olds 350 gas (or 350 Olds diesel (what a disaster)) or the Cadillac 425 (I can't remember if this was offered in the Dildorado) which was a destroked 472/500 and the old tranny.

    In re: Leno and Ford, I'm sure you've heard his 66 7 liter story that his dad bought new.
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    S2Ki said
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    S2Ki said
    freedomisntfree said
    S2Ki saidThanks guys for the suggestions. I want to mention a couple myself.

    Auto Collections - Las Vegas, NV
    http://www.autocollections.com
    Formerly the Imperial Palace Hotel, recently remodeled and named the Linq Hotel. Free admission, and you don't have to be a guest at the hotel to visit. Most of the cars are on consignment, so I wonder if somebody hits it big at the slots, they can reward themselves with a classic car. icon_smile.gif

    Sarasota Classic Car Museum - Sarasota, FL
    http://www.sarasotacarmuseum.org/
    I haven't visited for 10 years, but I may take it in again when I'm down there in a few weeks.


    The Imperial Palace Auto Collection is much more of a sales lot than any kind of museum. Great place to shop while loaded, both $$$$ and alcohol, where you'll find many #2 and #3 cars at #1 prices.

    If someone is looking for #1 cars at #1++++ prices, this is a better bet.

    http://www.rkmotorscharlotte.com/

    http://www.rkmotorscharlotte.com/sales/inventory/active#


    Wow, beautiful cars. It's amazing how classic sports cars seem to be worth so much more than classic luxury cars.

    Actually, #1 or even #2 cars are too perfect for me. I love cars to the point where they end up owning me. I just sold a Honda S2000 in excellent #2 condition because they don't make anymore, and I felt like I needed to be more a curator than just enjoy driving it. I wanted to keep it, but I live by the beach where the air can be salty and damp, so I rented a garage 20 miles away. Plus that car is best enjoyed on the track, free from distracted drivers and cops. So I'll revisit this game when I'm back making more money.

    I'm now perusing around for a steal on a #3 or #4 car I can pick up and play around with. I had a car buddy who used to visit the local Catholic Charities car lot and buy old cars that were towed in and not running. I remember he paid $100 for a 1978 Coupe Deville with a moonroof and super low miles. Sprayed starter fluid into the carburetor to get it running, clay bared and shampooed it up, then drove it around until something else caught his eye. Probably got $5,000 for it. Hard to find, but they're out there.


    I spent the time and money to restore my 63 GP to a #1 condition, but I have a hell of a time keeping it there. It's really a #2 the moment you start driving it.

    I do everything I can, but the restoration was 16 years ago. And other than a Chinese remanufactured fuel pump a few years (that drove me completely crazy for a while) the car has been amazingly reliable.

    It's been oil changes and filters and a lot of detailing. Well worth it and a great way to meet people. Plus, I love the way these 60s personal luxury coupes ride and drive.

    If you're looking, you're likely a lot better off with a 60s versus a 70s. And if it's a GM B or C body the best is 65 or 66. Actually through 1970 but you start getting a lot more plastics in the interior in the late 60s.


    Yes, I think cars of the 60's are objectively better, but it's the 1970's GM and Ford models that have the biggest emotional pull for me. My dad was always shopping around for cars, and I'd always accompany him. The dealers were closed on Sundays, and we'd still go around and look at the cars.

    I grew up in the same small Massachusetts town as Jay Leno, and can relate to his stories about the small Ford dealer in town. It was so small, the owner would sell 1/2 the cars there, and my dad could take a car home overnight for a test drive. Dad bought one of the first 65 Mustangs from them. When I was in high school, the Ford dealer had closed, and I begged the Chevy Cadillac dealer for a job, until they finally let me work in the recon department. It was a thrilling job to be able to drive all the new Z-28's and Corvettes. I remember the day I came into work and saw the 1979 E body Eldorado. One of the most stunning styling examples of the era. I got to prep a black Biarritz with a moonroof for the owner's wife. It was a family owned dealership, and I worked alongside the owner's kids, and they really treated everybody like family. What a great place to start my work career!!

    So, yeah, all those 70's cars bring back so many fond memories. And the dealership, pictured, is still owned by the same family, and still decidedly old school. So maybe I'll get my next car from them.
    o.jpg


    "I remember the day I came into work and saw the 1979 E body Eldorado"

    But a terrible car and was about to get worse when it got the 368 8-6-4 the next year (81) and then the 4.1 V8 in 82. At least the 79 had the choice of the Olds 350 gas (or 350 Olds diesel (what a disaster)) or the Cadillac 425 (I can't remember if this was offered in the Dildorado) which was a destroked 472/500 and the old tranny.

    In re: Leno and Ford, I'm sure you've heard his 66 7 liter story that his dad bought new.


    Yep, the '79 Eldo had the Olds 350, as did the Seville. Everything else was 425. Then everything went 368 in 1980, with diesel as an option. I remember going out with my boss in an 1980 Eldo diesel. He floored it and the car stayed at the same speed. He turned to me, and said, "that's passing gear." Made me sad. Damn 27.5 mileage standards, because just 3 years later, everybody wanted big cars again.

    Yes, that Jay Leno story is a riot!! My dad bought a few cars from them and I remember the cement floor where his dad did an accidental burnout.

    Below is a picture of the building as it sits today. Ford closed in 1978 and Chevrolet took over the building to open a leasing company. If you look closely at the sign on the right, you can see the frame is a 70's era Ford style.

    110528_AT_TJE_MOTOR-M.jpg
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    freedomisntfree said
    S2Ki said
    freedomisntfree said
    S2Ki said
    freedomisntfree said
    S2Ki saidThanks guys for the suggestions. I want to mention a couple myself.

    Auto Collections - Las Vegas, NV
    http://www.autocollections.com
    Formerly the Imperial Palace Hotel, recently remodeled and named the Linq Hotel. Free admission, and you don't have to be a guest at the hotel to visit. Most of the cars are on consignment, so I wonder if somebody hits it big at the slots, they can reward themselves with a classic car. icon_smile.gif

    Sarasota Classic Car Museum - Sarasota, FL
    http://www.sarasotacarmuseum.org/
    I haven't visited for 10 years, but I may take it in again when I'm down there in a few weeks.


    The Imperial Palace Auto Collection is much more of a sales lot than any kind of museum. Great place to shop while loaded, both $$$$ and alcohol, where you'll find many #2 and #3 cars at #1 prices.

    If someone is looking for #1 cars at #1++++ prices, this is a better bet.

    http://www.rkmotorscharlotte.com/

    http://www.rkmotorscharlotte.com/sales/inventory/active#


    Wow, beautiful cars. It's amazing how classic sports cars seem to be worth so much more than classic luxury cars.

    Actually, #1 or even #2 cars are too perfect for me. I love cars to the point where they end up owning me. I just sold a Honda S2000 in excellent #2 condition because they don't make anymore, and I felt like I needed to be more a curator than just enjoy driving it. I wanted to keep it, but I live by the beach where the air can be salty and damp, so I rented a garage 20 miles away. Plus that car is best enjoyed on the track, free from distracted drivers and cops. So I'll revisit this game when I'm back making more money.

    I'm now perusing around for a steal on a #3 or #4 car I can pick up and play around with. I had a car buddy who used to visit the local Catholic Charities car lot and buy old cars that were towed in and not running. I remember he paid $100 for a 1978 Coupe Deville with a moonroof and super low miles. Sprayed starter fluid into the carburetor to get it running, clay bared and shampooed it up, then drove it around until something else caught his eye. Probably got $5,000 for it. Hard to find, but they're out there.


    I spent the time and money to restore my 63 GP to a #1 condition, but I have a hell of a time keeping it there. It's really a #2 the moment you start driving it.

    I do everything I can, but the restoration was 16 years ago. And other than a Chinese remanufactured fuel pump a few years (that drove me completely crazy for a while) the car has been amazingly reliable.

    It's been oil changes and filters and a lot of detailing. Well worth it and a great way to meet people. Plus, I love the way these 60s personal luxury coupes ride and drive.

    If you're looking, you're likely a lot better off with a 60s versus a 70s. And if it's a GM B or C body the best is 65 or 66. Actually through 1970 but you start getting a lot more plastics in the interior in the late 60s.


    Yes, I think cars of the 60's are objectively better, but it's the 1970's GM and Ford models that have the biggest emotional pull for me. My dad was always shopping around for cars, and I'd always accompany him. The dealers were closed on Sundays, and we'd still go around and look at the cars.

    I grew up in the same small Massachusetts town as Jay Leno, and can relate to his stories about the small Ford dealer in town. It was so small, the owner would sell 1/2 the cars there, and my dad could take a car home overnight for a test drive. Dad bought one of the first 65 Mustangs from them. When I was in high school, the Ford dealer had closed, and I begged the Chevy Cadillac dealer for a job, until they finally let me work in the recon department. It was a thrilling job to be able to drive all the new Z-28's and Corvettes. I remember the day I came into work and saw the 1979 E body Eldorado. One of the most stunning styling examples of the era. I got to prep a black Biarritz with a moonroof for the owner's wife. It was a family owned dealership, and I worked alongside the owner's kids, and they really treated everybody like family. What a great place to start my work career!!

    So, yeah, all those 70's cars bring back so many fond memories. And the dealership, pictured, is still owned by the same family, and still decidedly old school. So maybe I'll get my next car from them.
    o.jpg


    "I remember the day I came into work and saw the 1979 E body Eldorado"

    But a terrible car and was about to get worse when it got the 368 8-6-4 the next year (81) and then the 4.1 V8 in 82. At least the 79 had the choice of the Olds 350 gas (or 350 Olds diesel (what a disaster)) or the Cadillac 425 (I can't remember if this was offered in the Dildorado) which was a destroked 472/500 and the old tranny.

    In re: Leno and Ford, I'm sure you've heard his 66 7 liter story that his dad bought new.


    Yep, the '79 Eldo had the Olds 350, as did the Seville. Everything else was 425. Then everything went 368 in 1980, with diesel as an option. I remember going out with my boss in an 1980 Eldo diesel. He floored it and the car stayed at the same speed. He turned to me, and said, "that's passing gear." Made me sad. Damn 27.5 mileage standards, because just 3 years later, everybody wanted big cars again.

    Yes, that Jay Leno story is a riot!! My dad bought a few cars from them and I remember the cement floor where his dad did an accidental burnout.

    Below is a picture of the building as it sits today. Ford closed in 1978 and Chevrolet took over the building to open a leasing company. If you look closely at the sign on the right, you can see the frame is a 70's era Ford style.

    110528_AT_TJE_MOTOR-M.jpg


    "He floored it and the car stayed at the same speed. He turned to me, and said, "that's passing gear."

    I remember more than a few trips to the Mannheim, PA auction with these (and 240Ds). What a terrible trip, and still remember trying to climb the Wheeling Grade up into the PA mountains in a few diesel Cadillacs trying to keep the speed up to 40 or 45 MPH. Just terrible cars. I have zero to say good about them.

    If you want a FWD Dildorado, stick with 67-70. No newer than that. Better yet, a 65 or 66. True, a RWD, but that makes it better yet.

    photo 861f3c6c-66bf-46fa-9ad3-68d29b1ed755.jpg
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    freedomisntfree said
    S2Ki said
    freedomisntfree said
    S2Ki said
    freedomisntfree said
    S2Ki said
    freedomisntfree said
    S2Ki saidThanks guys for the suggestions. I want to mention a couple myself.

    Auto Collections - Las Vegas, NV
    http://www.autocollections.com
    Formerly the Imperial Palace Hotel, recently remodeled and named the Linq Hotel. Free admission, and you don't have to be a guest at the hotel to visit. Most of the cars are on consignment, so I wonder if somebody hits it big at the slots, they can reward themselves with a classic car. icon_smile.gif

    Sarasota Classic Car Museum - Sarasota, FL
    http://www.sarasotacarmuseum.org/
    I haven't visited for 10 years, but I may take it in again when I'm down there in a few weeks.


    The Imperial Palace Auto Collection is much more of a sales lot than any kind of museum. Great place to shop while loaded, both $$$$ and alcohol, where you'll find many #2 and #3 cars at #1 prices.

    If someone is looking for #1 cars at #1++++ prices, this is a better bet.

    http://www.rkmotorscharlotte.com/

    http://www.rkmotorscharlotte.com/sales/inventory/active#


    Wow, beautiful cars. It's amazing how classic sports cars seem to be worth so much more than classic luxury cars.

    Actually, #1 or even #2 cars are too perfect for me. I love cars to the point where they end up owning me. I just sold a Honda S2000 in excellent #2 condition because they don't make anymore, and I felt like I needed to be more a curator than just enjoy driving it. I wanted to keep it, but I live by the beach where the air can be salty and damp, so I rented a garage 20 miles away. Plus that car is best enjoyed on the track, free from distracted drivers and cops. So I'll revisit this game when I'm back making more money.

    I'm now perusing around for a steal on a #3 or #4 car I can pick up and play around with. I had a car buddy who used to visit the local Catholic Charities car lot and buy old cars that were towed in and not running. I remember he paid $100 for a 1978 Coupe Deville with a moonroof and super low miles. Sprayed starter fluid into the carburetor to get it running, clay bared and shampooed it up, then drove it around until something else caught his eye. Probably got $5,000 for it. Hard to find, but they're out there.


    I spent the time and money to restore my 63 GP to a #1 condition, but I have a hell of a time keeping it there. It's really a #2 the moment you start driving it.

    I do everything I can, but the restoration was 16 years ago. And other than a Chinese remanufactured fuel pump a few years (that drove me completely crazy for a while) the car has been amazingly reliable.

    It's been oil changes and filters and a lot of detailing. Well worth it and a great way to meet people. Plus, I love the way these 60s personal luxury coupes ride and drive.

    If you're looking, you're likely a lot better off with a 60s versus a 70s. And if it's a GM B or C body the best is 65 or 66. Actually through 1970 but you start getting a lot more plastics in the interior in the late 60s.


    Yes, I think cars of the 60's are objectively better, but it's the 1970's GM and Ford models that have the biggest emotional pull for me. My dad was always shopping around for cars, and I'd always accompany him. The dealers were closed on Sundays, and we'd still go around and look at the cars.

    I grew up in the same small Massachusetts town as Jay Leno, and can relate to his stories about the small Ford dealer in town. It was so small, the owner would sell 1/2 the cars there, and my dad could take a car home overnight for a test drive. Dad bought one of the first 65 Mustangs from them. When I was in high school, the Ford dealer had closed, and I begged the Chevy Cadillac dealer for a job, until they finally let me work in the recon department. It was a thrilling job to be able to drive all the new Z-28's and Corvettes. I remember the day I came into work and saw the 1979 E body Eldorado. One of the most stunning styling examples of the era. I got to prep a black Biarritz with a moonroof for the owner's wife. It was a family owned dealership, and I worked alongside the owner's kids, and they really treated everybody like family. What a great place to start my work career!!

    So, yeah, all those 70's cars bring back so many fond memories. And the dealership, pictured, is still owned by the same family, and still decidedly old school. So maybe I'll get my next car from them.
    o.jpg


    "I remember the day I came into work and saw the 1979 E body Eldorado"

    But a terrible car and was about to get worse when it got the 368 8-6-4 the next year (81) and then the 4.1 V8 in 82. At least the 79 had the choice of the Olds 350 gas (or 350 Olds diesel (what a disaster)) or the Cadillac 425 (I can't remember if this was offered in the Dildorado) which was a destroked 472/500 and the old tranny.

    In re: Leno and Ford, I'm sure you've heard his 66 7 liter story that his dad bought new.


    Yep, the '79 Eldo had the Olds 350, as did the Seville. Everything else was 425. Then everything went 368 in 1980, with diesel as an option. I remember going out with my boss in an 1980 Eldo diesel. He floored it and the car stayed at the same speed. He turned to me, and said, "that's passing gear." Made me sad. Damn 27.5 mileage standards, because just 3 years later, everybody wanted big cars again.

    Yes, that Jay Leno story is a riot!! My dad bought a few cars from them and I remember the cement floor where his dad did an accidental burnout.

    Below is a picture of the building as it sits today. Ford closed in 1978 and Chevrolet took over the building to open a leasing company. If you look closely at the sign on the right, you can see the frame is a 70's era Ford style.

    110528_AT_TJE_MOTOR-M.jpg


    "He floored it and the car stayed at the same speed. He turned to me, and said, "that's passing gear."

    I remember more than a few trips to the Mannheim, PA auction with these (and 240Ds). What a terrible trip, and still remember trying to climb the Wheeling Grade up into the PA mountains in a few diesel Cadillacs trying to keep the speed up to 40 or 45 MPH. Just terrible cars. I have zero to say good about them.

    If you want a FWD Dildorado, stick with 67-70. No newer than that. Better yet, a 65 or 66. True, a RWD, but that makes it better yet.

    photo 861f3c6c-66bf-46fa-9ad3-68d29b1ed755.jpg


    Beautiful car. That looks like a car from Matt Garrett's collection.

    It's crazy, but I have a fetish about 70's to 80's slow boats. I know, 180hp carrying 5000lb...lol. I've had several t-roof or convertible sports cars and enjoyed those the best. Regretted selling every one. With that said, what do you think about the C7 Corvette, or even a good used C6? I'd use it as the daily driver, except for 3-4 months.