Abs are made in the kitchen: true or false?

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    Dec 30, 2015 2:15 PM GMT
    My osteo recently told me this, after giving me her scathing opinion of cross fit training. I don't need 6 pack abs (though I wouldn't mind) I wonder what others thing about ab and core training. Thanks.
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    Dec 30, 2015 6:12 PM GMT
    I can tell the difference between a male model, fitness model, body builder, etc. whose abs were "made in the kitchen" versus one whose abs were both made in the kitchen and at the gym.

    It may be true that you'll get decent abs from cross fit or weight lifting and you don't do any abs specific exercises and have little to no fat over them, and for a lot of people they look just fine. For example, there have been threads here "ass vs. abs?" or "abs vs pecs?" and for the people who answer ass or pecs the abs made in the kitchen are just fine.

    But if you want abs that to you are the crowning achievement of a hot body then you'll also need to do abs specific work.

    So to a large extent I think it depends on how "fussy" you are about great abs.

    Of course if you have a layer of fat over your abs that you've perfected in the gym they're going to be hard to see.
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    Dec 30, 2015 6:24 PM GMT
    Yep
    Pretty sure it was a dude with abdominal plates that coined the term "cheat day"...
  • bro4bro

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    Dec 30, 2015 6:28 PM GMT
    Absolutely true. You can do all the crunches in the world but those beautiful abs ain't gonna show until you lower your body fat.

    I can see the difference in myself (although most others don't notice) when my body weight goes up or down by only two pounds.
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    Dec 30, 2015 6:35 PM GMT
    I think it's a safe bet that this guy's abs weren't made in the kitchen only but that he also did a lot of abs work as well. You need both.

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  • HottJoe

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    Dec 30, 2015 7:34 PM GMT
    I eat a mix of health food and junk food, depending on the day. But I always gauge my fitness by whether I can see my abs. If I can't see them, I reach for vegetables and legumes. My workouts are consistent either way.
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    Dec 30, 2015 10:45 PM GMT
    Yep. I'm mixing up a batch of abs as I'm typing this. icon_rolleyes.gif

    You have to exercise too.
  • badbug

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    Dec 30, 2015 11:33 PM GMT

    Yeah i read somewhere that most men need to get down to 8 percent bodyfat or below for their abs to show fairly well. Anything 8-12 percent, you can have "sort of" abs, which i think are just as hot depending on the person anyways...

    You don't want to get too carried away doing ab work, or else you'll have a fat looking HGH gut type thing going.

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    Dec 31, 2015 12:37 AM GMT
    Abs are made in the kitchen if you do photo editing in the kitchen.
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    Dec 31, 2015 1:32 AM GMT
    Ab..solutely. Every one has abdominal muscles. If you live on Coke and pasta they are covered by a layer of fat.
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    Dec 31, 2015 1:55 AM GMT
    Eat fresh with good protein and resist the bad carbs! Walk, swim, jog and hike. Be active and have some early athletic history or sports behind you and you'll be set.
  • MichaelAdam

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    Dec 31, 2015 3:24 AM GMT
    At 54 years old I lived through the days of 'carb loading', going home after your workout and eating a bowl of pasta! The ripped abs were not of such importance in that bastion of we body Nazis...

    Now at this age getting to some semblance of viewable abs is fo more interest for myself.
    The caveat is that as a 35 year HIV survivor when I do stow right it's the muscle I loose despite any time at the gym. Is the desire of abs a pipe-dream or is there a way for me to make it happen?
    Mike Sausser
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    Dec 31, 2015 4:15 AM GMT
    Tropikarl saidMy osteo recently told me this, after giving me her scathing opinion of cross fit training. I don't need 6 pack abs (though I wouldn't mind) I wonder what others thing about ab and core training. Thanks.


    As lumpyoatmeal said, it's both.

    Underneath your skin is layer of fat, and underneath that layer of fat is your muscle.

    The kitchen helps you reduce that fat layer so that your ab muscles show better.

    However, in the gym, you can train the ab muscles to thicken them (like any other muscle). So if and when you reduce that fat layer, the abs will pop more. Along with training them, you'll have to feed them too, so they can grow like any other muscle.
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    Dec 31, 2015 5:04 AM GMT
    Abs are made in the gym. They're revealed in the kitchen.
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    Dec 31, 2015 5:13 PM GMT
    Combination of both. Eat healthy in the kitchen and working out to get that toned ripped abs result.
  • HottJoe

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    Dec 31, 2015 7:39 PM GMT
    eagermuscle saidAbs are made in the gym. They're revealed in the kitchen.

    Kinky!
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    Jan 03, 2016 3:09 PM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidYes and no would be my response . . . I pop a caffeine pill and within one month of doing this type of routine for forty to sixty minutes three to four times weekly I can dramatically change my body without even changing my caloric intake.


    Forgive my ignorance, but what do you mean by a "caffeine pill"? Just a NoDoz or similar from the chemist or something more serious? I've heard that a coffee before my morning run can help burn fat. Is that what you mean?

    Thanks everyone for the get advice too.
  • badbug

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    Jan 03, 2016 4:40 PM GMT
    Is the desire of abs a pipe-dream or is there a way for me to make it happen?


    Well you would have to do some serious research about your medical condition(s) and steroid use.

    But i would imagine, HGH and/or TRT or just plain old roids would help you very much. At that point, it's a cost/benefit analysis as well as a question of what you are comfortable with. With the right chemistry set, as the other poster pointed out, being 54 and having HIV will not stop you from getting abs. I have no idea if it is medically advisable or not.



    Yeah, caffeine helps open up blood vessels. It's also cheap. I imagine he means a 200mg caffeine pill.

    I used to love my ECA in the morning, those were the days. : )

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    Jan 03, 2016 9:15 PM GMT
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    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidYes and no would be my response . . . I pop a caffeine pill and within one month of doing this type of routine for forty to sixty minutes three to four times weekly I can dramatically change my body without even changing my caloric intake.
    Forgive my ignorance, but what do you mean by a "caffeine pill"? Just a NoDoz or similar from the chemist or something more serious? I've heard that a coffee before my morning run can help burn fat. Is that what you mean?
    Thanks everyone for the get advice too.

    The caffeine pills you get in the grocery store or drug store are 200 mg.

    http://www.vivarin.com/caffeine-comparisons

    If you look on amazon.com you can find ones that are 100 mg and 50 mg. Don't use the caffeine powder you may have heard about, it's dangerous and makes it very easy to overdose on caffeine.
  • buddycat

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    Jan 04, 2016 12:34 AM GMT
    I think it is true you need to watch what you eat to lower body fat along with doing cardio. Lower body fat will show your ab muscles but don't you need some to show?
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    Jan 05, 2016 3:48 AM GMT
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    I thought abs were made by staying out of the kitchen...

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    Jan 05, 2016 4:11 AM GMT
    Some abs are made by genetics. Others are made by re-learning how to eat.