Americans Far Less Interested In Protecting Rights Of Those Who Are Not Christian

  • metta

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    Dec 31, 2015 6:11 PM GMT
    Americans Far Less Interested In Protecting Rights Of Those Who Are Not Christian

    http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/americans_far_less_interested_in_protecting_rights_of_those_who_are_not_christian
  • FRE0

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    Jan 01, 2016 1:09 AM GMT
    From the article:

    "Democrats and Republicans alike see protecting the rights and beliefs of Muslims as less important, although the parties differ somewhat. Only 60 percent of Republicans, and 67 percent of Democrats value the rights and beliefs of Muslims."

    The above, plus other excerpts, indicate that the majority of Americans see it as important to protect the rights of others regardless of religion; that is good news. Admittedly it is a lower percentage of Americans who see it as important to protect the rights of people of other religions, but still it is a majority.
  • HottJoe

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    Jan 01, 2016 4:01 AM GMT
    I suppose it can be hard to accept the rights of people to believe whatever they're taught, especially when it seems like organized religion comes with so many tragically misguided teachings. Within Christianity, Episcopals don't like Catholics. Catholics think everyone who's not Catholic is going to hell. It's outrageous madness. But there are also serious consequences when issues of intolerance and women's rights are seen through an archaic lens. I see Islam as the same as Christianity. It's another culture's organized religion, and there's a dark side to religion, all religion.

    But humans ought to be humbled and at peace to know that we're not here to be subservient, to worship a magic man, and to be praised or punished. We are utterly irrelevant to everything that exists beyond our atmosphere. We're only beholden to earth, and she is not magic. She is not sentient. She is just one of trillions of planets.
  • musclmed

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    Jan 01, 2016 5:45 AM GMT
    Im not surprised. Especially when there are no other "rights" considered in Islam.

    The role of protecting rights lays at the feet of the Federal Government and the Constitution.
    The attitude of the people, well Islam has some image issues that it has to clean up itself.

    Its no surprise the American people feel this way.
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    Jan 01, 2016 8:53 AM GMT
    HottJoe saidI suppose it can be hard to accept the rights of people to believe whatever they're taught, especially when it seems like organized religion comes with so many tragically misguided teachings. Within Christianity, Episcopals don't like Catholics. Catholics think everyone who's not Catholic is going to hell. It's outrageous madness. But there are also serious consequences when issues of intolerance and women's rights are seen through an archaic lens. I see Islam as the same as Christianity. It's another culture's organized religion, and there's a dark side to religion, all religion.

    But humans ought to be humbled and at peace to know that we're not here to be subservient, to worship a magic man, and to be praised or punished. We are utterly irrelevant to everything that exists beyond our atmosphere. We're only beholden to earth, and she is not magic. She is not sentient. She is just one of trillions of planets.


    "I see Islam as the same as Christianity"

    And they, Islam, have quite a future planned for you. And not quite something that you'd see with Christianity, Judaism or most of the rest.

    http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/ML-Inside-the-Caliphate-Persecuting-Gays/2015/12/02/id/704344/

    Enjoy!
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    Jan 01, 2016 4:18 PM GMT
    Yeah, protect their rights to murder homos !
  • HottJoe

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    Jan 01, 2016 5:11 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree said
    HottJoe saidI suppose it can be hard to accept the rights of people to believe whatever they're taught, especially when it seems like organized religion comes with so many tragically misguided teachings. Within Christianity, Episcopals don't like Catholics. Catholics think everyone who's not Catholic is going to hell. It's outrageous madness. But there are also serious consequences when issues of intolerance and women's rights are seen through an archaic lens. I see Islam as the same as Christianity. It's another culture's organized religion, and there's a dark side to religion, all religion.

    But humans ought to be humbled and at peace to know that we're not here to be subservient, to worship a magic man, and to be praised or punished. We are utterly irrelevant to everything that exists beyond our atmosphere. We're only beholden to earth, and she is not magic. She is not sentient. She is just one of trillions of planets.


    "I see Islam as the same as Christianity"

    And they, Islam, have quite a future planned for you. And not quite something that you'd see with Christianity, Judaism or most of the rest.

    http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/ML-Inside-the-Caliphate-Persecuting-Gays/2015/12/02/id/704344/

    Enjoy!

    I've seen plenty of footage of Christian priests calling for the murder of gay people, as it is written in the Bible. Not sure why I should trust anyone who falls for homophobic religion.
  • HottJoe

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    Jan 01, 2016 5:12 PM GMT
    Alpha13 saidYeah, protect their rights to murder homos !

    The Bible says to murder homos, and people have the right to distribute the Bible and to preach any part of it.
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    Jan 01, 2016 5:27 PM GMT
    After U.S. Evangelicals Visit, Uganda Considers Death for Gays

    NYT: After three American evangelical Christians, whose teachings about “curing” homosexuals have been widely discredited in the United States, arrived here in Uganda’s capital to give a series of talks.

    For three days, according to participants and audio recordings, thousands of Ugandans, including police officers, teachers and national politicians, listened raptly to the Americans, who were presented as experts on homosexuality. The visitors discussed how to make gay people straight, how gay men often sodomized teenage boys and how “the gay movement is an evil institution” whose goal is “to defeat the marriage-based society and replace it with a culture of sexual promiscuity.”

    One month after the conference, a previously unknown Ugandan politician, who boasts of having evangelical friends in the American government, introduced the Anti-Homosexuality Bill of 2009, to impose a death sentence for homosexual behavior which threatens to hang homosexuals.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/04/world/africa/04uganda.html



  • Zigs_01

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    Jan 01, 2016 5:34 PM GMT
    woodsmen saidAfter U.S. Evangelicals Visit, Uganda Considers Death for Gays

    NYT: After three American evangelical Christians, whose teachings about “curing” homosexuals have been widely discredited in the United States, arrived here in Uganda’s capital to give a series of talks.

    For three days, according to participants and audio recordings, thousands of Ugandans, including police officers, teachers and national politicians, listened raptly to the Americans, who were presented as experts on homosexuality. The visitors discussed how to make gay people straight, how gay men often sodomized teenage boys and how “the gay movement is an evil institution” whose goal is “to defeat the marriage-based society and replace it with a culture of sexual promiscuity.”

    One month after the conference, a previously unknown Ugandan politician, who boasts of having evangelical friends in the American government, introduced the Anti-Homosexuality Bill of 2009, to impose a death sentence for homosexual behavior which threatens to hang homosexuals.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/04/world/africa/04uganda.html





    Holy fuck, even morbidly obese people get treated better here.
  • rdberg1957

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    Jan 02, 2016 2:52 AM GMT
    All of the Abrahamic religions, Christianity, Judaism and Islam have sects which are intolerant of deviation from their version of truth. Fundamentalists in these religions of the Book are often at war with their neighbors. Their version of keeping commandments is skewed by their insistence that everyone follow them. Other religions are not exempt. Buddhists kill Muslims in South Asian countries. It does not mean that organized religion is always hateful, but that hatefulness erupts often enough that one can't predict when an organized religion will be benign or lethal, depending on who is in ascendancy within the religion.
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    Jan 02, 2016 3:05 AM GMT
    Not true really Metta Dear.....what about this evil bunch.

    ISIS’ War on Christmas

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/02/opinion/isis-war-on-christmas.html?partner=msft_msn&_r=0
  • tj85016

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    Jan 02, 2016 3:17 AM GMT
    rdberg1957 saidAll of the Abrahamic religions, Christianity, Judaism and Islam have sects which are intolerant of deviation from their version of truth. Fundamentalists in these religions of the Book are often at war with their neighbors. Their version of keeping commandments is skewed by their insistence that everyone follow them. Other religions are not exempt. Buddhists kill Muslims in South Asian countries. It does not mean that organized religion is always hateful, but that hatefulness erupts often enough that one can't predict when an organized religion will be benign or lethal, depending on who is in ascendancy within the religion.


    well with 7.3 billion people around, there's bound to be a few hundred million wack jobs
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    Jan 02, 2016 3:21 AM GMT
    HottJoe said
    freedomisntfree said
    HottJoe saidI suppose it can be hard to accept the rights of people to believe whatever they're taught, especially when it seems like organized religion comes with so many tragically misguided teachings. Within Christianity, Episcopals don't like Catholics. Catholics think everyone who's not Catholic is going to hell. It's outrageous madness. But there are also serious consequences when issues of intolerance and women's rights are seen through an archaic lens. I see Islam as the same as Christianity. It's another culture's organized religion, and there's a dark side to religion, all religion.

    But humans ought to be humbled and at peace to know that we're not here to be subservient, to worship a magic man, and to be praised or punished. We are utterly irrelevant to everything that exists beyond our atmosphere. We're only beholden to earth, and she is not magic. She is not sentient. She is just one of trillions of planets.


    "I see Islam as the same as Christianity"

    And they, Islam, have quite a future planned for you. And not quite something that you'd see with Christianity, Judaism or most of the rest.

    http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/ML-Inside-the-Caliphate-Persecuting-Gays/2015/12/02/id/704344/

    Enjoy!

    I've seen plenty of footage of Christian priests calling for the murder of gay people, as it is written in the Bible. Not sure why I should trust anyone who falls for homophobic religion.



    "calling for"

    ?????

    Difference is that 'these' folks do it.

    http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/ML-Inside-the-Caliphate-Persecuting-Gays/2015/12/02/id/704344/

  • roadbikeRob

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    Jan 02, 2016 4:42 PM GMT
    HottJoe saidI suppose it can be hard to accept the rights of people to believe whatever they're taught, especially when it seems like organized religion comes with so many tragically misguided teachings. Within Christianity, Episcopals don't like Catholics. Catholics think everyone who's not Catholic is going to hell. It's outrageous madness. But there are also serious consequences when issues of intolerance and women's rights are seen through an archaic lens. I see Islam as the same as Christianity. It's another culture's organized religion, and there's a dark side to religion, all religion.

    But humans ought to be humbled and at peace to know that we're not here to be subservient, to worship a magic man, and to be praised or punished. We are utterly irrelevant to everything that exists beyond our atmosphere. We're only beholden to earth, and she is not magic. She is not sentient. She is just one of trillions of planets.
    Where do you get this "she"icon_question.gif How do you know that the Earth is a she. All we know the Earth could be a "he". Don't give me all that ultra leftist Mother Earth bullshit because our planet in nobody's goddamned mother. That is all hyperbole, period.
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    Jan 02, 2016 5:12 PM GMT
    If this were an unthinking belief, it could legitimately be called a prejudice. But, based upon the Muslims' own statements, acts, and creed, it is founded on fact, and therefore a rational, supportable belief, even if one disagrees with it. Generosity and compassion towards evil is no virtue.