The Quiet Grand Strategy of Barack Obama

  • metta

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    Dec 31, 2015 10:03 PM GMT
    The Quiet Grand Strategy of Barack Obama

    "In ways that have eluded Washington pundits and policymakers, President Barack Obama is deploying a subtle geopolitical strategy that, if successful, might give Washington a fighting chance to extend its global hegemony deep into the 21st century. After six years of silent, sometimes secret preparations, the Obama White House has recently unveiled some bold diplomatic initiatives whose sum is nothing less than a tri-continental strategy to check Beijing’s rise. As these moves unfold, Obama is revealing himself as one of those rare grandmasters who appear every generation or two with an ability to go beyond mere foreign policy and play that ruthless global game called geopolitics."

    "Obama has moved step-by-step to repair the damage caused by a plethora of Washington foreign policy debacles, old and new, and then maneuvered deftly to rebuild America’s fading global influence.

    Viewed historically, Obama has set out to correct past foreign policy excesses and disasters, largely the product of imperial overreach, that can be traced to several generations of American leaders bent on the exercise of unilateral power. Within the spectrum of American state power, he has slowly shifted from the coercion of war, occupation, torture, and other forms of unilateral military action toward the more cooperative realm of trade, diplomacy, and mutual security—all in search of a new version of American supremacy."

    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-quiet-grand-strategy-of-barack-obama/
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    Jan 01, 2016 12:54 AM GMT
    Lots of interesting comments at the end.. such as:

    "If he actually allows his DOJ to seriously investigate the Clinton (email? Libya? Secretary of State?) debacle, then I will be truly impressed. If there are indictments, and they help prevent Clinton from getting anywhere near the White House, then I might tacitly support Obama’s face on Mt. Rushmore, or whatever the next president re-names it."



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    Jan 01, 2016 2:43 AM GMT
    Oh, you mean he is has learned to pilot his murderous drones by himself ?
  • musclmed

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    Jan 01, 2016 5:32 AM GMT
    metta saidThe Quiet Grand Strategy of Barack Obama

    "In ways that have eluded Washington pundits and policymakers, President Barack Obama is deploying a subtle geopolitical strategy that, if successful, might give Washington a fighting chance to extend its global hegemony deep into the 21st century. After six years of silent, sometimes secret preparations, the Obama White House has recently unveiled some bold diplomatic initiatives whose sum is nothing less than a tri-continental strategy to check Beijing’s rise. As these moves unfold, Obama is revealing himself as one of those rare grandmasters who appear every generation or two with an ability to go beyond mere foreign policy and play that ruthless global game called geopolitics."

    "Obama has moved step-by-step to repair the damage caused by a plethora of Washington foreign policy debacles, old and new, and then maneuvered deftly to rebuild America’s fading global influence.

    Viewed historically, Obama has set out to correct past foreign policy excesses and disasters, largely the product of imperial overreach, that can be traced to several generations of American leaders bent on the exercise of unilateral power. Within the spectrum of American state power, he has slowly shifted from the coercion of war, occupation, torture, and other forms of unilateral military action toward the more cooperative realm of trade, diplomacy, and mutual security—all in search of a new version of American supremacy."

    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-quiet-grand-strategy-of-barack-obama/


    Metta interesting article, It has alot of historical truth but if you read the newspaper the Iran deal is falling apart. The author makes a few assumptions, that the policies he mentions are some sort of grand strategy.

    But i have to say I enjoyed the article for the historical read. But his theory on obama is all wrong.
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    Jan 01, 2016 8:20 PM GMT
    When you actually stop to think about this (objectively), it makes sense. He is one of the smartest Presidents we've had. How else can you explain how he's achieved most of his objectives in spite of the contentious House and Senate. Most Pres in his position would be a lame duck. However he is intelligent enough to effectively work around the opposing obstacles, using their stupidity against them.

    So, the possibility that he has a grand plan to reassert the power of the US is not surprising.

    He is quietly working behind the scenes to achieve his goals while his opposition makes fools of themselves, clueless as to what is going on.

    I'm confident that history will bare this out.
  • HottJoe

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    Jan 01, 2016 10:16 PM GMT
    blkbodybdr saidWhen you actually stop to think about this (objectively), it makes sense. He is one of the smartest Presidents we've had. How else can you explain how he's achieved most of his objectives in spite of the contentious House and Senate. Most Pres in his position would be a lame duck. However he is intelligent enough to effectively work around the opposing obstacles, using their stupidity against them.

    So, the possibility that he has a grand plan to reassert the power of the US is not surprising.

    He is quietly working behind the scenes to achieve his goals while his opposition makes fools of themselves, clueless as to what is going on.

    I'm confident that history will bare this out.

    I agree with all of this.
  • wellwell

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    Jan 01, 2016 11:59 PM GMT
    PSYCHO !
  • tj85016

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    Jan 02, 2016 12:08 AM GMT
    Alpha13 saidOh, you mean he is has learned to pilot his murderous drones by himself ?


    what's the difference between a "murderous drone", an F-16, or a sniper? nothing
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    tj85016 said
    Alpha13 saidOh, you mean he is has learned to pilot his murderous drones by himself ?


    what's the difference between a "murderous drone", an F-16, or a sniper? nothing


    Drones are not human. Therefore the only risk is taxpayer money.





  • rnch

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    Jan 02, 2016 2:09 AM GMT
    blkbodybdr saidWhen you actually stop to think about this (objectively), it makes sense. He is one of the smartest Presidents we've had. How else can you explain how he's achieved most of his objectives in spite of the contentious House and Senate. Most Pres in his position would be a lame duck. However he is intelligent enough to effectively work around the opposing obstacles, using their stupidity against them.

    So, the possibility that he has a grand plan to reassert the power of the US is not surprising.

    He is quietly working behind the scenes to achieve his goals while his opposition makes fools of themselves, clueless as to what is going on.

    I'm confident that history will bare this out.




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  • rdberg1957

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    Jan 02, 2016 3:38 AM GMT
    I have not been been full on enthusiastic about any president in my lifetime's memory. I was 6 when JFK died, so I didn't know him. I was just upset that he was shot. LBJ had great strengths and even bigger weaknesses. Nixon was quite paranoid, but moved us quite far in relationship to USSR and China.

    I liked Carter, except when I didn't like him. I like him much better now that he is not president. Probably the best former president we have had. I was never happy with either Bush, but had lots of reservations about Clinton as well, although there were some good moments.

    Obama has done very well overall considering the issues he has had to deal with. He took office with a full on economic crisis and two unresolved wars. I don't know if he has a grand strategy, but the US overall is better off for having had him as president. I don't like some of his policies with respect to spying and drones. But I have never liked any president 100%.

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    Jan 02, 2016 5:06 PM GMT
    This "theory" is about as half-baked and harebrained as they come, and it comes from a longtime critic of the US, ergo an Obama apologist. Obama's sole strategy - and it's no grand one - is the weakening of the US. As for China, his dawdling over the Spratleys land grab says a lot more than this or any other similarly silly essay could. I'm surprised it appeared in a conservative journal, but then they do have a reputation for being fair and balanced, especially in contrast to their liberal counterparts.
  • tj85016

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    Jan 02, 2016 5:15 PM GMT
    China is a funny one, it's a debt and population time-bomb fortified by a ton of nonsense economic numbers pumped out by the crooked government.

    India is the same thing, and ironically, nobody EVER discusses the nightmare of India.

    It should be interesting (or unnerving actually) as China and India, by far, are our biggest enemies (making ISIS and Russia look pale by comparison). China and India should be held up by the UN as an embarrassment to the world (but what good is the UN anyway?)
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    Jan 02, 2016 5:26 PM GMT
    MGINSD saidObama's sole strategy - and it's no grand one - is the weakening of the US.


    You might be able to make the argument that he has weakened the US, but to say that weakening the US is his sole strategy is beyond imbecilic.
  • tj85016

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    Jan 02, 2016 5:32 PM GMT
    ^^

    if you had to listen to Obama's utter bullshit, non-action with Congress, his lazy arrogant demeanor for 7 years, you wouldn't be a fan of his either - it's as if we had 7 years of a phantom President after 8 years of an asshole (George W)
  • HottJoe

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    Jan 02, 2016 5:38 PM GMT
    tj85016 said^^

    if you had to listen to Obama's utter bullshit, non-action with Congress, his lazy arrogant demeanor for 7 years, you wouldn't be a fan of his either - it's as if we had 7 years of a phantom President after 8 years of an asshole (George W)

    Sounds like Bill was the best of the last three for you???

    Vote Hillary 2016!!!!
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    tj85016 said^^

    if you had to listen to Obama's utter bullshit, non-action with Congress, his lazy arrogant demeanor for 7 years, you wouldn't be a fan of his either - it's as if we had 7 years of a phantom President after 8 years of an asshole (George W)


    Congress has managed to hit the nadir of job approval ratings (9%) under Republican control during the Obama presidency. I think that tells you who is mostly to blame for the non-action of Congress.
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    MGINSD saidObama's sole strategy - and it's no grand one - is the weakening of the US.


    You might be able to make the argument that he has weakened the US, but to say that weakening the US is his sole strategy is beyond imbecilic.


    Not if you know the facts about Obama's hero-worship of his radical Muslim father, and how both felt "cheated" by the US for not recognizing the former's brilliance and throwing him out of Harvard. And make no mistake: he's no friend of the UK's either. Something about Sir WLS Churchill, I'm told ...
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    Jan 02, 2016 5:43 PM GMT
    HottJoe said
    tj85016 said^^

    if you had to listen to Obama's utter bullshit, non-action with Congress, his lazy arrogant demeanor for 7 years, you wouldn't be a fan of his either - it's as if we had 7 years of a phantom President after 8 years of an asshole (George W)

    Sounds like Bill was the best of the last three for you???

    Vote Hillary 2016!!!!


    the day I vote for that feckless whore idiot Hillary, is the day I move to New Zealand
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    MGINSD said
    Not if you know the facts about Obama's hero-worship of his radical Muslim father, and how both felt "cheated" by the US for not recognizing the former's brilliance and throwing him out of Harvard. And make no mistake: he's no friend of the UK's either. Something about Sir WLS Churchill, I'm told ...


    Oh dear, you really have jumped the shark this time (or maybe you're still "seeing-in" the New Year).
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    MGINSD said
    Not if you know the facts about Obama's hero-worship of his radical Muslim father, and how both felt "cheated" by the US for not recognizing the former's brilliance and throwing him out of Harvard. And make no mistake: he's no friend of the UK's either. Something about Sir WLS Churchill, I'm told ...


    Oh dear, you really have jumped the shark this time (or maybe you're still "seeing-in" the New Year).


    Your refutation of my argument - and the facts underlying it - is as concise as it is faultless. icon_rolleyes.gif
  • roadbikeRob

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    Jan 02, 2016 5:48 PM GMT
    Anyone who votes for Hillary in 2016 should be legally required to pay a $5000.00 poll tax before casting their ballot or they cannot vote, period.
  • tj85016

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    Jan 02, 2016 5:49 PM GMT
    Obama is the worst thing to happen to the West since Jimmy Carter and that dope Woodrow Wilson . . toss in that idiot Neville Chamberlain too (and a slew of worthless French "leaders")
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    tj85016 saidObama is the worst thing to happen to the West since Jimmy Carter and that dope Woodrow Wilson . . toss in that idiot Neville Chamberlain too (and a slew of worthless French "leaders")


    So, he's the worst thing to happen to the West since 1976, 1912 or 1938? Make your mind up.
  • tj85016

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    Jan 02, 2016 6:15 PM GMT
    ^^

    all three (and the French lol)