Terrorist Jihadists Use Video of Trump for Recruiting

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    Jan 02, 2016 5:04 AM GMT
    NYT: Terrorist jihadists released a recruitment video on Friday that criticized racism and anti-Muslim sentiment in the United States and contained footage of the Republican presidential candidate Donald J. Trump announcing his proposal to bar Muslims from entering the United States.

    Representatives for the Trump campaign did not respond to requests for comment on Friday.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/02/world/africa/al-qaeda-uses-video-of-trump-for-recruiting.html
  • Buddha

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    Jan 02, 2016 11:47 AM GMT
    Weird it's like... hatred breeds more hatred

    strange

    Whudda thunk
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    Jan 02, 2016 2:13 PM GMT
    Terrorist Jihadists Use Video of Trump for Recruiting...AFTER Hillary incites them:



    Who is Hillary's closest confidant: Islamic Houma Abedin

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    Jan 02, 2016 3:39 PM GMT
    mx5guynj saidTerrorist Jihadists Use Video of Trump for Recruiting...AFTER Hillary incites them:

    Who is Hillary's closest confidant: Islamic Houma Abedin



    Warning about an impending catastrophe is not incitement.

    Being a Muslim doesn't link you to terrorism.
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    Jan 02, 2016 4:01 PM GMT
    Unfortunately, Hillary Clinton probably gave them the idea.
  • jeepguySD

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    Jan 02, 2016 4:01 PM GMT
    It was inevitable that such public statements as those made by Mr. Trump would be used by jihadists to recruit more to their cause. Even the perception of the West, and the US in particular, being anti-Islam plays right into the extremist narrative.

    Even the Bush (43) administration, for all of their flaws and missteps, was careful not to allow the "War on Terror" to be framed as the West versus Islam.

    I predict that we'll see more examples in which anti-Muslim statements made by Trump, and others, are used by jihadists. And no, I'm not inciting such use.

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    Jan 02, 2016 4:15 PM GMT
    How does Islam advance us further into Enlightenment?

    How is Islam not a tighter Bible Belt?

    Christianity is at least 70% Ancient Roman Emperor worship and Islam re-iterates it.
    (Sources: two very well researched youtube videos present the evidence: Gospel of Caesar and the 2 hour plus video by WBFbySteefen. The former is based on the book by Carotta: Jesus was Caesar and the latter is based on the book: The Greatest Bible Study in Historical Accuracy by Steefen)
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    jeepguySD saidIt was inevitable that such public statements as those made by Mr. Trump would be used by jihadists to recruit more to their cause. Even the perception of the West, and the US in particular, being anti-Islam plays right into the extremist narrative.

    Even the Bush (43) administration, for all of their flaws and missteps, was careful not to allow the "War on Terror" to be framed as the West versus Islam.

    I predict that we'll see more examples in which anti-Muslim statements made by Trump, and others, are used by jihadists. And no, I'm not inciting such use.

    +1

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    Jan 02, 2016 5:45 PM GMT
    jeepguySD saidIt was inevitable that such public statements as those made by Mr. Trump would be used by jihadists to recruit more to their cause. Even the perception of the West, and the US in particular, being anti-Islam plays right into the extremist narrative.

    Even the Bush (43) administration, for all of their flaws and missteps, was careful not to allow the "War on Terror" to be framed as the West versus Islam.

    I predict that we'll see more examples in which anti-Muslim statements made by Trump, and others, are used by jihadists. And no, I'm not inciting such use.



    The reality is that ISIS and other extremist groups like them could not hate us any more regardless of what is said and who says it.
  • jperfit

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    Jan 02, 2016 6:14 PM GMT
    Of course they did after Ms Hillary Clinton put the idea in the head
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    Jan 02, 2016 6:46 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    jeepguySD saidIt was inevitable that such public statements as those made by Mr. Trump would be used by jihadists to recruit more to their cause. Even the perception of the West, and the US in particular, being anti-Islam plays right into the extremist narrative.

    Even the Bush (43) administration, for all of their flaws and missteps, was careful not to allow the "War on Terror" to be framed as the West versus Islam.

    I predict that we'll see more examples in which anti-Muslim statements made by Trump, and others, are used by jihadists. And no, I'm not inciting such use.



    The reality is that ISIS and other extremist groups like them could not hate us any more regardless of what is said and who says it.


    I think you are quite right about that. However, the statements made by Trump, and others on the right (i.e. banning Muslims from entering the US, carpet bombing Muslims regardless of civilian casualties, etc.), feeds jihadist propaganda with exactly what it wants, and ultimately helps them recruit new followers and so-called martyrs. Trump's comments feed the extremist ideology.

    Contrary to what Sen. Cruz, Mr. Trump, Gov. Christie, and others have suggested, there is no military-only solution to combating terrorism because planes, tanks, ships, and guns cannot defeat an ideology. While we can identify and kill individual terrorists, their ideology goes on, and their deaths often inspire new followers. Don't get me wrong, I believe firmly in a strong defense, I wear my uniform with pride, and I admire my fellow service members (especially those who are combat veterans such as myself), but military force alone cannot solve all problems.
  • HottJoe

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    Jan 02, 2016 7:04 PM GMT
    In an ideological war, Trump is a terrorist. His radical views would make our country less safe, because he turns neighbor against neighbor. He got his political start with the birther movement, which was a cynical, hypocritical witch hunt. He's the voice for people who mistrust patriotic citizens who are perceived as outsiders. We're a diverse country but he couldn't accept a POTUS who reflected that. His candidacy has predictably become a rallying cry for white supremacists, and people would have to be ignorant to want to associate themselves with that.
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    Jan 02, 2016 9:43 PM GMT
    Buddha saidWeird it's like... hatred breeds more hatred

    strange

    Whudda thunk


    Not really strange. It is to be expected.
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    Jan 02, 2016 10:37 PM GMT
    Sam27 said
    HottJoe saidIn an ideological war, Trump is a terrorist. His radical views would make our country less safe, because he turns neighbor against neighbor. He got his political start with the birther movement, which was a cynical, hypocritical witch hunt. He's the voice for people who mistrust patriotic citizens who are perceived as outsiders. We're a diverse country but he couldn't accept a POTUS who reflected that. His candidacy has predictably become a rallying cry for white supremacists, and people would have to be ignorant to want to associate themselves with that.


    I got to say this is my favorite post. I am not a Trump's fan like I used to when he was on tv show, "You Fired". In my opinion, I don't think Trump is a terrorist. He is very misleading and not well educated on foreigner politics. I am sure he doesn't care before he runs for the President.


    You mean The Apprentice? That show like many reality tv show was misleading and if there is any truth to his decisions he made on that show then God bless America.
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    Jan 02, 2016 11:00 PM GMT
    Sam27 said
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    Sam27 said
    HottJoe saidIn an ideological war, Trump is a terrorist. His radical views would make our country less safe, because he turns neighbor against neighbor. He got his political start with the birther movement, which was a cynical, hypocritical witch hunt. He's the voice for people who mistrust patriotic citizens who are perceived as outsiders. We're a diverse country but he couldn't accept a POTUS who reflected that. His candidacy has predictably become a rallying cry for white supremacists, and people would have to be ignorant to want to associate themselves with that.


    I got to say this is my favorite post. I am not a Trump's fan like I used to when he was on tv show, "You Fired". In my opinion, I don't think Trump is a terrorist. He is very misleading and not well educated on foreigner politics. I am sure he doesn't care before he runs for the President.


    You mean The Apprentice? That show like many reality tv show was misleading and if there is any truth to his decisions he made on that show then God bless America.


    Yes, that show! I can't believe I forgot the name of that show "Apprentice You're Fired". He treated his employees bad and fired everyone. Bad old boss. ;-)


    Now he talks about job creation.
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    Jan 02, 2016 11:09 PM GMT
    Yeah, we don't want to say anything to piss them off so let's open up the floodgates before they get angry. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jan 02, 2016 11:48 PM GMT
    Radd saidYeah, we don't want to say anything to piss them off so let's open up the floodgates before they get angry. icon_rolleyes.gif


    Yes, Hillary leads us to believe that radical Islamists...all of a sudden...hear Donald Trump and immediately tell everybody to strap on the explosives.
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    Jan 03, 2016 2:17 AM GMT
    Ha they won't be using it long I'd he is elected lol
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    Jan 03, 2016 6:33 AM GMT
    Trump Says "There Was Little He Could Do" About the Recruitment Video

    NYT: Donald J. Trump shrugged off his appearance in a recruitment video posted Friday by the Shabab, an Al Qaeda affiliate, saying there was little he could do about it.

    The video released by the Shabab featured a clip of Mr. Trump calling for a temporary ban on Muslims coming into the United States in the wake of the terrorist attack in San Bernardino, Calif

    http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/01/02/donald-trump-shrugs-off-appearance-in-terrorist-video/
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    Jan 04, 2016 3:52 AM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    jeepguySD saidIt was inevitable that such public statements as those made by Mr. Trump would be used by jihadists to recruit more to their cause. Even the perception of the West, and the US in particular, being anti-Islam plays right into the extremist narrative.

    Even the Bush (43) administration, for all of their flaws and missteps, was careful not to allow the "War on Terror" to be framed as the West versus Islam.

    I predict that we'll see more examples in which anti-Muslim statements made by Trump, and others, are used by jihadists. And no, I'm not inciting such use.



    The reality is that ISIS and other extremist groups like them could not hate us any more regardless of what is said and who says it.


    I agree. Fanaticism and irrationality go hand in hand. It is not possible to deal with extremists rationally and we have heard ISIS & Al Qaida terrorists repeatedly spout their vitriolic rhetoric even before Donald Trump began his campaign for the White House. I don't agree with Mr. Trump's stated position, and I don't believe that ISIS recruitment will spike because of what he said. The young men who are joining ISIS were already brainwashed, and continue to be brainwashed, by radicals within their own communities.