Commentary: What I learned by not drinking for 2 years

  • metta

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    Jan 02, 2016 6:22 PM GMT
    Commentary: What I learned by not drinking for 2 years

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-sober-alcohol-drunk-booze-perspec-1231-20151230-story.html
  • tj85016

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    Jan 02, 2016 7:03 PM GMT
    you didn't learn shit metta, you just post crap all day long
  • badbug

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    Jan 02, 2016 9:01 PM GMT
    yeah, i was excited when i clicked this post thinking i would actually learn something about you. icon_rolleyes.gif

  • bro4bro

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    Jan 02, 2016 10:29 PM GMT
    I'm gonna stick up for Metta - not that he needs it but he seems to be collecting an undeserved amount of shit lately, largely due to one (unnamed) member whose method of getting attention is to try and pick fights with people.

    Yes, Metta's whole schtick is to re-post news items, 90% of which are of no interest to me. So what? I can say the same about the LA Times. And the items that do interest me are, well, interesting. So he set himself up as the town crier. At least he's not the town whiner - he'd have to stand in a long line to win that award.

    A couple months ago, Metta posted an item that said the Los Angeles LGBT Youth Center was in dire need of shoes, due to a rash of homeless kids having their shoes stolen right off their feet as they slept. I dug into my closet, pulled out three pairs of used but serviceable running shoes, and made the hour's drive into town. So, wholly due to Metta's post, three (or more, if anyone else responded) homeless gay kids had shoes on their feet.

    What has anyone else here posted that has helped someone in genuine need?

    Metta, keep up the good work.
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    Jan 02, 2016 10:46 PM GMT
    metta has posted very personal stuff over the years.
  • Webster666

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    Jan 03, 2016 12:51 AM GMT
    bro4bro saidI'm gonna stick up for Metta - not that he needs it but he seems to be collecting an undeserved amount of shit lately, largely due to one (unnamed) member whose method of getting attention is to try and pick fights with people.

    Yes, Metta's whole schtick is to re-post news items, 90% of which are of no interest to me. So what? I can say the same about the LA Times. And the items that do interest me are, well, interesting. So he set himself up as the town crier. At least he's not the town whiner - he'd have to stand in a long line to win that award.

    A couple months ago, Metta posted an item that said the Los Angeles LGBT Youth Center was in dire need of shoes, due to a rash of homeless kids having their shoes stolen right off their feet as they slept. I dug into my closet, pulled out three pairs of used but serviceable running shoes, and made the hour's drive into town. So, wholly due to Metta's post, three (or more, if anyone else responded) homeless gay kids had shoes on their feet.

    What has anyone else here posted that has helped someone in genuine need?

    Metta, keep up the good work.

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    THIS.
    Also, probably thousands of guys come here just to read, without ever posting anything or adding their opinion or a comment.
    The success of a web site depends on the participation of the members.
    So, I have to hand it to all the guys who contribute.

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    Jan 03, 2016 1:23 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidI don't see why people feel compelled to shit all over metta.

    You don't have to read what he posts. Just find something you want to read and hopefully enjoy your online experience.


    Metta has a definitely left point of view politically. But unlike most of the political commenters on RJ -- both left and right -- he doesn't indulge in personal attacks on those who disagree with him.

    So whether or not you like the material he cuts and pastes, he deserves credit for not sinking into all the sniping and mudslinging.
  • badbug

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    Jan 03, 2016 1:36 AM GMT

    So you gave some old shoes away? icon_rolleyes.gif

    I made the hour drive

    You're an inspiration.


    What has anyone else here posted that has helped someone in genuine need?


    Who knows? How would you know? How would anyone?

    I've seen quite a few posts with people in genuine distress over some situation or another and I, among many others have probably received a few thank you messages from people happy to just have been listened to. Just cause you got off your ass and gave away some old garbage doesn't mean people can't voice their concerns over what basically amounts to spam. It's nice that you helped some people in need, but there are plenty of people in need, the world is pretty full of them and you shouldn't need for them to be relatable and in proximity to you in order for you to help.

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    Jan 03, 2016 1:44 AM GMT
    bro4bro saidI'm gonna stick up for Metta - not that he needs it but he seems to be collecting an undeserved amount of shit lately, largely due to one (unnamed) member whose method of getting attention is to try and pick fights with people.

    Yes, Metta's whole schtick is to re-post news items, 90% of which are of no interest to me. So what? I can say the same about the LA Times. And the items that do interest me are, well, interesting. So he set himself up as the town crier. At least he's not the town whiner - he'd have to stand in a long line to win that award.

    A couple months ago, Metta posted an item that said the Los Angeles LGBT Youth Center was in dire need of shoes, due to a rash of homeless kids having their shoes stolen right off their feet as they slept. I dug into my closet, pulled out three pairs of used but serviceable running shoes, and made the hour's drive into town. So, wholly due to Metta's post, three (or more, if anyone else responded) homeless gay kids had shoes on their feet.

    What has anyone else here posted that has helped someone in genuine need?

    Metta, keep up the good work.


    Quick! Someone alert the Vatican. We have two candidates for sainthood here.

    (Sadly, they will have to get in line behind Art to wait for their halos.)
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    Jan 03, 2016 2:20 AM GMT
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    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidI don't see why people feel compelled to shit all over metta.

    ...


    Metta has a definitely left point of view politically. But unlike most of the political commenters on RJ -- both left and right -- he doesn't indulge in personal attacks on those who disagree with him.

    So whether or not you like the material he cuts and pastes, he deserves credit for not sinking into all the sniping and mudslinging.


    Are you kidding?! The only thing that makes this site remotely entertaining is the sniping and mudslinging. Metta is about as interesting as watching paint dry.
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    Jan 03, 2016 8:55 AM GMT
    metta saidCommentary: What I learned by not drinking for 2 years

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-sober-alcohol-drunk-booze-perspec-1231-20151230-story.html


    I didn't know that you had a drinking problem.
  • 24hourguy

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    Jan 03, 2016 3:13 PM GMT
    wow tough room
  • metta

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    Jan 03, 2016 4:28 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree said
    metta saidCommentary: What I learned by not drinking for 2 years

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-sober-alcohol-drunk-booze-perspec-1231-20151230-story.html


    I didn't know that you had a drinking problem.


    Actually, I don't like the taste of alcohol. But I do have a friend that has struggled with alcoholism for many years. Even so, I don't fully understand it.
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    Jan 03, 2016 4:50 PM GMT
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    metta saidCommentary: What I learned by not drinking for 2 years

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-sober-alcohol-drunk-booze-perspec-1231-20151230-story.html


    I didn't know that you had a drinking problem.


    Actually, I don't like the taste of alcohol. But I do have a friend that has struggled with alcoholism for many years. Even so, I don't fully understand it.


    You don't understand the attraction? The chemical attraction?

    With my bro in law, it's his entire family. Him and his three brothers, and while his parents were alive, both of them. Now we're seeing it in my niece and nephew. Certainly an inherited component to it.
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    Jan 03, 2016 5:07 PM GMT
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    The Trump siblings — from left, Robert, Elizabeth, Freddy, Donald and Maryanne — in an undated photo. Freddy Trump, who died in 1981, was eight years older than Donald.

    NYT: For Mr. Trump, a presidential candidate whose appeal is predicated on an aura of toughness, personal achievement and perpetual success, the story of Freddy, a handsome, gregarious and self-destructive figure who died as an alcoholic in 1981 at the age of 43, is bleak and seldom told.

    In a telephone interview last week, Mr. Trump said he had learned by watching his brother how bad choices could drag down even those who seemed destined to rise. Seeing his brother suffering led him to avoid ever trying alcohol or cigarettes, he said.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/03/us/politics/for-donald-trump-lessons-from-a-brothers-suffering.html?ref=politics
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    Jan 03, 2016 5:22 PM GMT
    ^What was the purpose of that article other than to smear a family's name? Pitiful excuse for journalism and a journalist.
  • metta

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    Jan 03, 2016 5:49 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree said
    metta said
    freedomisntfree said
    metta saidCommentary: What I learned by not drinking for 2 years

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-sober-alcohol-drunk-booze-perspec-1231-20151230-story.html


    I didn't know that you had a drinking problem.


    Actually, I don't like the taste of alcohol. But I do have a friend that has struggled with alcoholism for many years. Even so, I don't fully understand it.


    You don't understand the attraction? The chemical attraction?

    With my bro in law, it's his entire family. Him and his three brothers, and while his parents were alive, both of them. Now we're seeing it in my niece and nephew. Certainly an inherited component to it.



    I understand what alcoholism is. I understand that it is a disease. I have never experienced an addiction to anything. I don't really fully understand what it is like to be addicted to something. I see what my friend goes through but I don't not fully understand why he keeps going back to drinking. Why he can't stop himself from buying or getting the stuff in the first place. I think it is something that you have to experience to fully understand what it is like. And thankfully, I have not experienced it.
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    Jan 03, 2016 5:56 PM GMT
    bro4bro saidI'm gonna stick up for Metta - not that he needs it but he seems to be collecting an undeserved amount of shit lately, largely due to one (unnamed) member whose method of getting attention is to try and pick fights with people.

    Yes, Metta's whole schtick is to re-post news items, 90% of which are of no interest to me. So what? I can say the same about the LA Times. And the items that do interest me are, well, interesting. So he set himself up as the town crier. At least he's not the town whiner - he'd have to stand in a long line to win that award.

    A couple months ago, Metta posted an item that said the Los Angeles LGBT Youth Center was in dire need of shoes, due to a rash of homeless kids having their shoes stolen right off their feet as they slept. I dug into my closet, pulled out three pairs of used but serviceable running shoes, and made the hour's drive into town. So, wholly due to Metta's post, three (or more, if anyone else responded) homeless gay kids had shoes on their feet.

    What has anyone else here posted that has helped someone in genuine need?

    Metta, keep up the good work.

    And now YOU'RE the one catching crap, for mentioning your good deed. When you show what good can come from metta's posts, and to encourage others to do the same.

    Because we've got some repulsive characters here whose job on RJ is to undermine, sabotage, and demoralize the gay community. They mock you for your charity, as we can read in posts above, because they don't WANT any charity for homeless gay youth, or for any other gay causes. They may be homophobes, sociopaths, or alleged gays whose selfishness is boundless.

    And BTW, congrats for your own act of charity. Now beware of being on the bad side of the bad guys.
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    Jan 03, 2016 6:00 PM GMT
    metta said

    Actually, I don't like the taste of alcohol. But I do have a friend that has struggled with alcoholism for many years. Even so, I don't fully understand it.


    Aww, I am sure we could find something tasty for you.
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    Jan 03, 2016 6:05 PM GMT
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    freedomisntfree said
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    metta saidCommentary: What I learned by not drinking for 2 years

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-sober-alcohol-drunk-booze-perspec-1231-20151230-story.html


    I didn't know that you had a drinking problem.


    Actually, I don't like the taste of alcohol. But I do have a friend that has struggled with alcoholism for many years. Even so, I don't fully understand it.


    You don't understand the attraction? The chemical attraction?

    With my bro in law, it's his entire family. Him and his three brothers, and while his parents were alive, both of them. Now we're seeing it in my niece and nephew. Certainly an inherited component to it.



    I understand what alcoholism is. I understand that it is a disease. I have never experienced an addiction to anything. I don't really fully understand what it is like to be addicted to something. I see what my friend goes through but I don't not fully understand why he keeps going back to drinking. Why he can't stop himself from buying or getting the stuff in the first place. I think it is something that you have to experience to fully understand what it is like. And thankfully, I have not experienced it.


    My addiction would be chocolate so I can't say that I'm without any and my reward is diabetes.

    I just can't have it around. If it's around late at night, it's gonna be gone.

    But, yeah, other than chocolate, I've never had any addictions so I don't fully understand why one just cannot stop.


  • tj85016

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    Jan 03, 2016 6:22 PM GMT
    it's complete and utter crap that alcoholism is a "disease"

    if you can't tolerate alcohol without getting wasted every other day, don't drink

    the underlying cause is depression, not alcoholism

    most alcoholics smoke also
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    Jan 03, 2016 6:29 PM GMT
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    Your link wants a dollar to read it. No thanx.

    I was never more than a weekend partier but I did stop even that drinking in my 30s and didn't have a drink again until near 50, while dealing with mom's Alzheimer's. Now I have some drink maybe one or two weekends a month if that. Not a big deal.

    But I've a friend from childhood who has given himself wet brain (Wernicke-Korsakoff Syndrome) from so much drink and it's so bad that he was let go from his rather responsible position in an electrical company. Understandably they couldn't risk it once they realized what had happened to him. They treated him quite well on the way out and he's financially set for life, but the damage by now is pretty severe.

    My friends and I discuss it every so often but there's not a lot we can do. He's aware of his condition. I've studied the syndrome enough to discuss it and I explained to him that if he stopped, he could possibly reverse some damage but definitely he could prevent further damage.

    He understood my explanation. Though this affects his memory--essentially it is dementia--he seems to recall what I told him, but refuses to change his life.

    Oddly complicating it, he's quite athletic, a runner still and in his past he was a trained fighter, so he body remains healthy while his brain deteriorates.

    That was sort of what happened to my mom who kept a good bod throughout life, she was on health shakes since the 70s, but that might have prolonged suffering through Alzheimer's because she was otherwise so healthy.

    So as soon as I notice myself forgetting too much, I'm gonna start drinking heavily and chain-smoking. Who knew staying healthy could work against ya? Life, fuck it!
  • tj85016

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    Jan 03, 2016 6:31 PM GMT
    ^^

    sounds like depression to me (in both cases)
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    https://youtu.be/UbMTC31etB4?t=57s
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    Jan 03, 2016 6:52 PM GMT
    Nobody noticed this links to a pay site? Metta8' s making coin.