Does Trump actually want to be President of the USA?

  • shutoman

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    Jan 04, 2016 11:57 PM GMT
    So, he shoots off his mouth with apparent disregard for basic political conduct.

    He relishes alienating people - even people within the GOP.

    He appears to make policy on the hoof - or rather he shouts down any attempted analysis when flaws are pointed out.

    And he's (still) doing rather well in the GOP primaries.

    But he has given no indication of much political engagement in the past and this candidacy came as a curve-ball.

    I have come to the conclusion that Donald Trump is not serious about this candidacy. I certainly don't think he wants to be President.

    My theory? He has spotted the colossal market in ultra right-wing rhetoric and he sees that there's space for people far to the right even of Fox. I think Donald Trump will announce formation of a media network as soon as he possibly can; that is, as soon as he's gone as far as he can go. After all, he has nothing to lose by pissing off the GOP - because most of his voter group already regard them as traitors.

  • badbug

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    Jan 05, 2016 12:36 AM GMT

    But he has given no indication of much political engagement in the past and this candidacy came as a curve-ball


    He talked about running in 2008 and even formed a committee or set about starting one before he got a massive thumbs down.

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    Jan 05, 2016 1:34 AM GMT
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    Jan 05, 2016 2:32 AM GMT
    He's totally trolling us. And devastating the Republican Party all the while.
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    Jan 05, 2016 2:35 AM GMT
    It will soon be called the Gold House!! lol
  • tj85016

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    Jan 05, 2016 2:37 AM GMT
    ultra-right? have you actually listened to him? he's about as ultra-right as neo-Con Hillary

    Cruz is far more ultra-right
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    Jan 05, 2016 3:50 AM GMT
    He is a bloody smart business man , that what he really is ..
    He definitely is a crook , but 99% or the politicians are anyhow , so he cannot be worst than some others campaigning at the moment ...
    Right now , none of the republicans or democrats running is worth attention , so it might be the next U.S president .
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    Jan 05, 2016 3:55 AM GMT
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    shutoman said...My theory? He has spotted the colossal market in ultra right-wing rhetoric and he sees that there's space for people far to the right even of Fox. I think Donald Trump will announce formation of a media network as soon as he possibly can; that is, as soon as he's gone as far as he can go. After all, he has nothing to lose by pissing off the GOP - because most of his voter group already regard them as traitors.


    I'd have no idea about that but it's interesting to consider and certainly makes more sense than the horse shit that he's on the side of Democrats.

    He's on the side of money. We can be real sure of that. Is he taking everyone for a ride just to profit? I'd not have thought of that but I do recall some stories from someone I know who once worked for him and, I won't say details but when it comes to money, I would not put anything past that guy.

    In that regard, he'd already have calculated in his anti-Muslim comments. In the same line of thinking you could speculate that he did that purposely for tax reasons. Is there an accountant in the house? Can he categorize losses of royalties due to campaigning as a capital loss written off his taxes?

    While everyone else is taking polls, he's doing spreadsheets. Oh, how funny.

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    Jan 05, 2016 4:04 AM GMT
    neffa saidHe is a bloody smart business man , that what he really is ..


    NYT: In the Republican debate, Mr. Trump, who has watched four of his companies slide into bankruptcy, said of the nation’s debt mountain: “They need somebody like me to straighten out that mess.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/14/opinion/trumps-economic-muddle.html
  • tj85016

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    Jan 05, 2016 5:29 AM GMT
    woodsmen said
    neffa saidHe is a bloody smart business man , that what he really is ..


    NYT: In the Republican debate, Mr. Trump, who has watched four of his companies slide into bankruptcy, said of the nation’s debt mountain: “They need somebody like me to straighten out that mess.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/14/opinion/trumps-economic-muddle.html


    lol, oh like Hewlett-Packard or General Electric or IBM or Kraft Foods or Proctor & Gamble never sold off or BK'ed any of their failed ventures

    your argument is an absolute joke
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    Jan 05, 2016 4:43 PM GMT
    tj85016 said
    woodsmen said
    neffa saidHe is a bloody smart business man , that what he really is ..


    NYT: In the Republican debate, Mr. Trump, who has watched four of his companies slide into bankruptcy, said of the nation’s debt mountain: “They need somebody like me to straighten out that mess.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/14/opinion/trumps-economic-muddle.html


    lol, oh like Hewlett-Packard or General Electric or IBM or Kraft Foods or Proctor & Gamble never sold off or BK'ed any of their failed ventures

    your argument is an absolute joke


    I don't defend Trump much, but that BK line of attack is a red herring.

    Every project that he, or frankly anyone else, does is structured as a single entity LLC so he's likely had hundreds of them. Hell, I've been involved in at least 50.

    And they're structured this way for very obvious reasons. If he's only had four that have BK11ed, then I'd say that's pretty damn good.

    This attack is absolute bullshit from folks who know nothing about the CRE / development business world, which I'm sure Giggles is one of them.
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    Jan 05, 2016 5:51 PM GMT
    ^ This is a reason why the U.S. economy in the hands of GOP enters recession.
    The economic structure of the U.S. is not like a company or of a family. Failure is not an option.