Jake Gyllenhaal talks about movies and Heath Ledger

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    Jan 06, 2016 3:00 AM GMT
    If want to listen to a great interview with Jake, enjoy this from earlier this year with NPR. It's the first time I've ever heard him talk about his feelings regarding Heath's passing.


    http://www.npr.org/2015/07/22/425245982/jake-gyllenhaal-on-throwing-and-taking-punches-its-very-primal
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    Jan 06, 2016 4:57 AM GMT
    I will always be grateful to them for the beautiful movie, Brokeback Mountain.
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    Jan 06, 2016 3:47 PM GMT
    woodsmen saidI will always be grateful to them for the beautiful movie, Brokeback Mountain.


    if you liked the movie so much, you should be grateful to the director.

    i personally think it was probably the most boring thing ever.

    and why would anyone be grateful for such lame film. unless that for some people it was inspiring enough to embrace their own sexuality and come out of the closet or something like that.

    SMH
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    Jan 06, 2016 4:30 PM GMT
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    and why would anyone be grateful for such lame film. unless that for some people it was inspiring enough to embrace their own sexuality and come out of the closet or something like that.SMH

    Perhaps the value of the film was less for those of us who are gay, and more for those who are not. It was refreshing to have 2 gay characters who weren't flaming gay stereotypes, but portrayed instead as rugged cowboys of all things. Although I could have done without the forced sex scene in the tent, which probably did meet some mistaken straight notions about all gay relationships.

    But I'm not much of a sentimentalist, evidently like you. I was unmoved by the scene with the shirt in the closet of the parents' home. Despite the theatre audience around me crying like they were at a funeral home wake. I nearly walked out at that point.

    Afterwards returning to the car my BF and another gay couple were going on and on about that scene. And I said: "Why all the fuss? It was just a shirt." My BF smacked me. But still, it's a movie I'm glad was made.
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    Jan 06, 2016 6:30 PM GMT
    Afterwards returning to the car my BF and another gay couple were going on and on about that scene. And I said: "Why all the fuss? It was just a shirt." My BF smacked me. But still, it's a movie I'm glad was made.

    I cried. icon_smile.gif It was not long after my partner (no marriage then) died, and it really hit me in the gut.

    I thought the film was often beautiful to watch, and having grown up in ranching country, as well as having one of two friends with an equal inability to express feelings, and with similar results - I thought it was a very fine film.
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    Jan 06, 2016 7:26 PM GMT
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    I cried. icon_smile.gif It was not long after my partner (no marriage then) died, and it really hit me in the gut.

    I thought the film was often beautiful to watch, and having grown up in ranching country, as well as having one of two friends with an equal inability to express feelings, and with similar results - I thought it was a very fine film.

    And I hope I can appreciate those feelings. I deliberately try to be detached, remote and unemotional at times for a lot of reasons. Not being hurt is a major reason.

    In the case of this movie, earlier that year my first partner had died. The couple with me at the theatre had been our best friends, with us when he died, helped me with the final arrangements. They did an intervention afterwards because I'd had some kind of emotional breakdown, staying closed up in our home office, never leaving, never stepping outside for nearly 3 months. Even purchasing my local groceries online and having them delivered.

    They encouraged me to try dating again, to start socializing. I had just begun. But my protection mechanism was to be cold & unemotional. Didn't help any relationship. Beware of that reaction.
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    Jan 06, 2016 8:43 PM GMT
    I really enjoyed the film. It was a long time ago and I am a big fan of Annie Proulx's work so I have read the story and watched the film.

    I may not remember everything about the film but it was perfect in every sense of the word. The plot of course deals with two men in love with each other but its themes are universal and imagery, beyond fabulous. Like the summer spent sheep herding in rural Wyoming under the shadow of Brokeback mountain where the love in nature brings out the natural in one another, brokeback mountain eventually becomes a metaphor for the highest point in the lives of two cowboys whose humdrum lives are otherwise destined for sacrifice and shame thus making a film as much about memory and its haunts as it is about loss, longing and love.


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    Jan 07, 2016 12:58 AM GMT
    Brokeback mountain is a classic film pretty much perfect.
    Great acting great directing great screenplay great music.
    Great movie!!!!!!!!
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    Jan 07, 2016 6:37 AM GMT
    Jake is so articulate and fun to listen to when he describes his acting. When he gets asked about Brokeback and Heath, you can feel his sadness. That scene they played was the second most moving scene. The shirt in the closet tore me up. The homophobic, rural, quiet parents did a great job, especially the mother opening a paper bag for Ennis to take the shirt with him.
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    Jan 07, 2016 10:52 AM GMT
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    And I hope I can appreciate those feelings. I deliberately try to be detached, remote and unemotional at times for a lot of reasons. Not being hurt is a major reason.


    They encouraged me to try dating again, to start socializing. I had just begun. But my protection mechanism was to be cold & unemotional. Didn't help any relationship. Beware of that reaction.


    everybody knows trying is the first step towards failure.

    sorry to hear you partner died, but it just sounds like you're very sensitive, and you try to look like you're not, otherwise you wouldn't feel the need to have a protection mechanism in the first place.

    as for the movie, well I pretty much said all I had to say. i went to see it in a theater and still it didn't impress me in the least. i guess the acting is OK. but that's about it. the story is pretty simple and predictable.
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    Jan 08, 2016 12:56 AM GMT
    ^ Protective mechanism...hmm....

    It was beautifully made. My late partner and I thoroughly enjoyed it. It was unusual for its time, showing love between two men in other than stereotypes, for a general audience. And they accepted it.

    I guess you can't really appreciate its context if you didn't live through those older times, or perhaps if one lives in gay bubble isolated from the rest of the world.
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    Jan 08, 2016 1:35 AM GMT
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    Art_Deco said
    And I hope I can appreciate those feelings. I deliberately try to be detached, remote and unemotional at times for a lot of reasons. Not being hurt is a major reason.

    They encouraged me to try dating again, to start socializing. I had just begun. But my protection mechanism was to be cold & unemotional. Didn't help any relationship. Beware of that reaction.

    everybody knows trying is the first step towards failure.

    sorry to hear you partner died, but it just sounds like you're very sensitive, and you try to look like you're not, otherwise you wouldn't feel the need to have a protection mechanism in the first place.

    as for the movie, well I pretty much said all I had to say. i went to see it in a theater and still it didn't impress me in the least. i guess the acting is OK. but that's about it. the story is pretty simple and predictable.

    Thank you. But I would rather want to think that trying is the first step to success. With some intermediate failures & missteps along the way to be expected and taken in stride.

    My first BF after my partner died, encouraged by my friends, ultimately wasn't a longterm success. But neither would I call our relationship a failure. He helped in my emotional recovery after that most traumatic of my experiences. I suppose he was the right guy at the right time.
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    Jan 08, 2016 1:56 AM GMT
    wrestlervic saidJake is so articulate and fun to listen to when he describes his acting. When he gets asked about Brokeback and Heath, you can feel his sadness. That scene they played was the second most moving scene. The shirt in the closet tore me up. The homophobic, rural, quiet parents did a great job, especially the mother opening a paper bag for Ennis to take the shirt with him.


    That was a great interview. And I felt the same way as you describe above about that scene in Brokeback Mountain. I was very emotional after seeing the movie, and for several days after. It was a very special film.
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    Jan 08, 2016 8:46 PM GMT
    wrestlervic saidJake is so articulate and fun to listen to when he describes his acting. When he gets asked about Brokeback and Heath, you can feel his sadness. That scene they played was the second most moving scene. The shirt in the closet tore me up. The homophobic, rural, quiet parents did a great job, especially the mother opening a paper bag for Ennis to take the shirt with him.


    I'm sorry, my computer has no audio so I'm missing the interview.

    You're right, the 2 elderly rural parents did a great job with their scene. I think they both knew that their son was gay, without his ever having come out to them. The father was indeed homophobic and bitter. The bleakness of their isolated home explained a lot about what Jack's youth must have been like. But the mother was very understanding and sympathetic. Without saying anything, she fully understood what the shirt meant to Jack, and she discreetly gave him a paper bag to take the shirt in, without her husband ever catching on.