What is going on? Large groups of immigrants attack over 100 women in Germany. (Links fixed)

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    Jan 08, 2016 11:05 AM GMT
    Two of many articles

    http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSL8N14S0U020160108


    http://www.wsj.com/articles/angela-merkel-describes-cologne-sexual-assaults-as-intolerable-1452177202


    This is not just Fox news creating drama. What is going on in Europe and is it coming here next?
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    Jan 08, 2016 5:40 PM GMT
    strongbull saidTwo of many articles

    http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSL8N14S0U020160108


    http://www.wsj.com/articles/angela-merkel-describes-cologne-sexual-assaults-as-intolerable-1452177202


    This is not just Fox news creating drama. What is going on in Europe and is it coming here next?


    Coming here next? No.

    It's just that Germany doesn't know or care how to provide police presence in crowds. Need a lot more police, ready to be swinging batons, breaking heads - video cameras to capture images of all the perps so those who escape can be arrested later and deported. This sort of event could not occur in Moscow.
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    Jan 08, 2016 7:26 PM GMT
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  • HottJoe

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    Jan 08, 2016 7:53 PM GMT
    Bonifacius saidwe already went through this muslims = islam = degrading violent barbaric morally sick way of life

    unveiled women means they can be raped


    refugees should have been shot on the border for brutally entering it and not let in modern civilized world

    those who wanted them now want nothing to do with them and are responsible for what is going on yet take no responsibility, those are called pseudo liberal fascists


    You have a strange understanding of the word fascist.

    What you're proposing here is mass murder.
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    Jan 08, 2016 8:06 PM GMT
    Bonifacius said
    HottJoe said
    Bonifacius saidwe already went through this muslims = islam = degrading violent barbaric morally sick way of life

    unveiled women means they can be raped


    refugees should have been shot on the border for brutally entering it and not let in modern civilized world

    those who wanted them now want nothing to do with them and are responsible for what is going on yet take no responsibility, those are called pseudo liberal fascists


    You have a strange understanding of the word fascist.

    What you're proposing here is mass murder.


    I am proposing defending borders, you are the one who wants rapes and murders and violence in the name of islam

    It has nothing to do with Islam. In the US, Trump says immigrants are rapists... and he's referring to Christian immigrants. This is just xenophobic propaganda. If you want to discuss rape, you have to acknowledge that men who rape women are criminals, and they exist in every nationality, religion, and culture.
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    Jan 08, 2016 8:10 PM GMT
    I am proposing a wall along the Canada border or something and make them pay for it.
    or
    Maybe its the Mexican border

    whatever


    keep are wives and small pets save...
  • tj85016

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    Jan 08, 2016 8:56 PM GMT
    lol can't happen here

    so instead, some muslim asshole shoots a cop in his car in Philly
  • HottJoe

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    Jan 08, 2016 9:03 PM GMT
    tj85016 saidlol can't happen here

    so instead, some muslim asshole shoots a cop in his car in Philly

    Yeah, gun violence is more prevalent here, regardless of religion.
  • HottJoe

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    Jan 08, 2016 9:06 PM GMT
    Bonifacius said
    Bonifacius said
    HottJoe said
    Bonifacius said
    HottJoe said
    Bonifacius saidwe already went through this muslims = islam = degrading violent barbaric morally sick way of life

    unveiled women means they can be raped


    refugees should have been shot on the border for brutally entering it and not let in modern civilized world

    those who wanted them now want nothing to do with them and are responsible for what is going on yet take no responsibility, those are called pseudo liberal fascists


    You have a strange understanding of the word fascist.

    What you're proposing here is mass murder.


    I am proposing defending borders, you are the one who wants rapes and murders and violence in the name of islam

    It has nothing to do with Islam. In the US, Trump says immigrants are rapists... and he's referring to Christian immigrants. This is just xenophobic propaganda. If you want to discuss rape, you have to acknowledge that men who rape women are criminals, and they exist in every nationality, religion, and culture.


    pseudo liberal fascists just ignore and put their head in the sand, but those rapes and crimes are on your hands


    And really? where in quran in clearly states that unveiled women can be raped and since islamic immigration rape has gone up more than 1000 % and crime 300 % ? seriously Joe, shut the fuck up, you are an idiot

    There are Christians who want women to wear veils. RJ's own wickedryan advocated that Christian women be made to wear veils. Apparently, women are too sexy for their hair, at least in the minds of some sexually repressed Christian and Muslim heterosexual men.
  • tj85016

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    Jan 08, 2016 9:29 PM GMT
    no, that's just a Catholic thing. I remember when my mom had to wear a head covering of some sort to get into St Patrick's Cathedral. That's pretty much when I left the Catholic thing
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    Jan 09, 2016 3:55 AM GMT
    pellaz saidI am proposing a wall along the Canada border or something and make them pay for it.
    or
    Maybe its the Mexican border

    whatever


    keep are wives and small pets save...



    oh we will be building a wall soon....america is getting too crazy (just keep sending netflix though).
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    Jan 09, 2016 11:16 AM GMT
    I knew this would be provacative. WHEN can we look beyond political affiliation to use common sense? There is so much uninformed, parroted, party line BS thrown about while the world you know is changing every day.

    Actually, the Koran encourages sex with your captive women and slave girls, married or not. ISIS and those who follow similar interpretations believe non-Muslim women are basically fair game. By the way, gay men are particularly abhorrent and the Koran implies they should be stoned to death.

    Much of the immigrant population is generally not interested in assimilating, but in transforming the culture and living within a theocratic society. There is plenty of empirical evidence of this.

    I am not interested in condemning anyone or any religion, however we need to examine facts beyond mere political propaganda if we wish to preserve a free and open society.
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    Jan 09, 2016 1:51 PM GMT
    strongbull saidI knew this would be provacative. WHEN can we look beyond political affiliation to use common sense? There is so much uninformed, parroted, party line BS thrown about while the world you know is changing every day.

    Actually, the Koran encourages sex with your captive women and slave girls, married or not. ISIS and those who follow similar interpretations believe non-Muslim women are basically fair game. By the way, gay men are particularly abhorrent and the Koran implies they should be stoned to death.

    Much of the immigrant population is generally not interested in assimilating, but in transforming the culture and living within a theocratic society. There is plenty of empirical evidence of this.

    I am not interested in condemning anyone or any religion, however we need to examine facts beyond mere political propaganda if we wish to preserve a free and open society.

    Do you personally know any Muslims, as friends?

    If so, what have they done to force you to submit??

    /sarcasm
  • HottJoe

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    Jan 09, 2016 1:54 PM GMT
    If I didn't have any Christians as friends or family, I might just assume they all want to kill me, since the Bible clearly states that gay men should be put to death.

    Then again, I might not fall for the propaganda, if I put my thinking cap on.icon_idea.gif
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    Jan 09, 2016 2:01 PM GMT
    That's a pretty ignorant comment Joe. Firstly, I know many, many Muslims and count some among the closest friends in my life. Unless you are in an area controlled by ISIL or one of the other conservative areas,it is not a matter of submission like that. And obviously I am not talking about all Muslims. But there is a movement to gradually influence culture, undermine Western values, and spread Islamic influence by some groups who have gained increasing popularity. Political correctness keeps this from being discussed. You need to read more.

    There are no Old and New Testaments in Islam Joe. You are referring to Old Testament law. Anyone who knows what the New Testament says would know that. The Koran 's teachings are unmitigated. If they are followed explicitly, they are very severe.
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    Jan 09, 2016 2:06 PM GMT
    strongbull saidThat's a pretty ignorant comment Joe. Firstly, I know many, many Muslims and count some among the closest friends in my life. Unless you are in an area controlled by ISIL or one of the other conservative areas,it is not a matter of submission like that. And obviously I am not talking about all Muslims. But there is a movement to gradually influence culture, undermine Western values, and spread Islamic influence by some groups who have gained increasing popularity. Political correctness keeps this from being discussed. You need to read more.

    Oh, your post sounded so anti Muslim. My bad. In that case, it's very open minded of your many Muslim friends to be such good friends with you, considering. You should remember that the refugees are friends/neighbors, and ISIS is a hate group that they don't belong to.
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    Jan 09, 2016 2:11 PM GMT
    I don't get how someone who's friends with Muslims wouldn't understand that ISIS is like the KKK. It would be like if someone hated and wanted to kill/deport white people and Christians because of some passages in the Bible and acts committed by white supremacists. How do people not get that we're not all affiliated with hate groups just because some of us are white and/or wear crosses?
  • HottJoe

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    Jan 09, 2016 2:16 PM GMT
    Evangelicals also want to undermine western values. Will Trump be deporting them, as well? I have a cousin-in-law who is evangelical, but I'm scared, so I don't care what happens to her.

    /sarcasm
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    Jan 09, 2016 2:19 PM GMT
    I think the OP's idea of a serious non PC discussion would be if everyone said at least one genocidal thought they have had about Muslims.
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    Jan 09, 2016 2:27 PM GMT
    Many Muslims I know agree with you, and I do too. But forgetting the past is a.dangerous thing. You should study the rise of Nazism. Hitler was VERY popular in Germany, his was not a minority of angry white men. They were celebrated as restorers of German culture, power and world influence. What is an extreme few now can become a popular and powerful movement, particularly among a people who feel disenfranchised, as the Germans did after the first world war. Add to that a faith component, appeals to religious obligations, limited education, demonization of the West (as Jews were and are demonized), and you have the makings of a very dangerous situation. Refusing to address this now will be a tragic mistake. Unfortunately, history repeats itself over and over.
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    Jan 09, 2016 2:33 PM GMT
    HottJoe saidI don't get how someone who's friends with Muslims wouldn't understand that ISIS is like the KKK. It would be like if someone hated and wanted to kill/deport white people and Christians because of some passages in the Bible and acts committed by white supremacists. How do people not get that we're not all affiliated with hate groups just because some of us are white and/or wear crosses?


    More left-wing hatred and intolerance.

    For starters... America is 75% Christian and 1% muslim, but all the religious based killings (9/11, San Bernardino, etc.) are done by muslims.

    Muhammad slaughtered those who rejected Islam. ISIS follows the Quran and recruits members from mosques. They throw gay men off buildings....to build support in the muslim world. Jihad is an Islamic term.

    KKK is based on racial superiority and separatism. If the KKK went into any Christian church to try and recruit, they'd be immediately booted out.
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    Jan 09, 2016 2:35 PM GMT
    You know nothing to refer to my comments as invoking genocide, and to say that shows what an ignorant person you are. Dachau, Yugoslavia, Rwanda,so many millions butchered for ideological and religious reasons just in the last hundred years. You don't have a clue. We must ALL work with everything we have to prevent that. It is ignorance, political correctness, shallowness, greed, denial that lead to the continual cycle of destruction.
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    Jan 09, 2016 2:39 PM GMT
    strongbull saidMany Muslims I know agree with you, and I do too. But forgetting the past is a.dangerous thing. You should study the rise of Nazism. Hitler was VERY popular in Germany, his was not a minority of angry white men. They were celebrated as restorers of German culture, power and world influence. What is an extreme few now can become a popular and powerful movement, particularly among a people who feel disenfranchised, as the Germans did after the first world war. Add to that a faith component, appeals to religious obligations, limited education, demonization of the West (as Jews were and are demonized), and you have the makings of a very dangerous situation. Refusing to address this now will be a tragic mistake. Unfortunately, history repeats itself over and over.

    I have often compared ISIS to Nazis. I began making that comparison since the moment they started publicizing their beheadings. I agree with your latest post. My concern is that US repeats its mistakes, too.

    Our attitudes in WWII reflected a dominant white culture that put the Japanese in interment camps. We have since apologized for that. Was that just lip service?

    We seem to get that not all Germans were Nazis, yet we (or at least within the GOP) can't seem to make that connection that not all Mexicans are rapists, not all Muslims are terrorists, etc.

    I'm not really PC. I'm just concerned that we're repeating history, while a few conspiring dictators and hate groups are pushing us into WWIII.
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    Jan 09, 2016 2:44 PM GMT
    strongbull saidYou know nothing to refer to my comments as invoking genocide, and to say that shows what an ignorant person you are. Dachau, Yugoslavia, Rwanda,so many millions butchered for ideological and religious reasons just in the last hundred years. You don't have a clue. We must ALL work with everything we have to prevent that. It is ignorance, political correctness, shallowness, greed, denial that lead to the continual cycle of destruction.

    Bonifacius wants to shoot dead all Muslim refugees at his border.

    So many people on RJ have said they want to either kill Muslims or give them guns so they kill each other. What do you think I meant when I said they're just lining up to evoke genocidal thoughts?

    If everyone on this thread said they wanted to kill Muslims, would you step in and call for peace?

    Would you defend your Muslim friends and their right to practice their religion?
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    Jan 09, 2016 2:47 PM GMT
    S2Ki said
    HottJoe saidI don't get how someone who's friends with Muslims wouldn't understand that ISIS is like the KKK. It would be like if someone hated and wanted to kill/deport white people and Christians because of some passages in the Bible and acts committed by white supremacists. How do people not get that we're not all affiliated with hate groups just because some of us are white and/or wear crosses?


    More left-wing hatred and intolerance.

    For starters... America is 75% Christian and 1% muslim, but all the religious based killings (9/11, San Bernardino, etc.) are done by muslims.

    Muhammad slaughtered those who rejected Islam. ISIS follows the Quran and recruits members from mosques. They throw gay men off buildings....to build support in the muslim world. Jihad is an Islamic term.

    KKK is based on racial superiority and separatism. If the KKK went into any Christian church to try and recruit, they'd be immediately booted out.

    The pope slaughtered those who rejected Christianity. Christians and Muslims both have a bloody history. I'm not bewitched by either faith. I just understand that the leaders of hate groups don't represent the regular folks who didn't know what they inherited.